Toyota GR GT3 Concept

JustADude

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I’m also confused is the GT3 concept the next generation RC or LFA II? If it is the LFA II, it would be well over 100k
I'm clueless right now. Some say it's a future Lexus model, some say there will be a Toyota and Lexus version of this platform/chassis, or there will be multiple cars riding on it. I'm not leaning towards anything right now idk what's true.
 

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Guys, it's easy
All the future coupe from both brands will be based on it from A100 , crown coupe for Toyota to LFA-2 , RC , LC for Lexus!
 

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Here is where I am confused.

I think Lexus themselves are still very early in development, and they themselves don't know where they're going with the projects.

Initially Lexus announced a future sports coupe replacing both the RC/LC based on a GT3 sports car, and followed up with a fully electric LFA successor in 2030, and main multiple headlines about it.

*Now* I'm seeing that the GT3 coupe "LFR" powered by the 4.0TTV8 is being talked about/referred to as the LFA successor, so I think there's a ton of confusion because Lexus themselves are unsure of what's going on maybe?
 

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It's both Supra successor and LFA successor

In 80s till early 00s the Soarer / SC and Supra both was riding on same chassis with different engines, as the SC got the 4000 cc first before it got the 2jz and even after it got the 2jz it was detuned to the luxury side

Then in mid to late 00s with the first LFA concept we was thinking it's just the new Supra until the year 09

So from that , TMC want to recreate the past

Supra and Crown coupe
As the past Supra and Soarer and who know it may give the Crown coupe the same Soarer name

Then for Lexus the LC/ RC and then the LFA-II

The only uncleared is if they will merge the LC/RC in one model as what Mercedes will do by merging S/E/C-coupe in 1 GT or they will keep the LC/RC plan
 

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I thought it was the LC/RC becoming the GT3 aka LFR, and the LFA successor being the EV supercar in 2030.

Also, the future EV had a roadster, so that may be an "EV IS Coupe and Convertible" idk
 

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Where does the rumored Crown Coupe play into this. Crown Supra 🤔
The Crown coupe is probably more likely the LC "facelift", as the Crown sedan is a "facelift" of the Mirai II, aka GS Mk5. But the time they are out they will be "old" by German standards.
 

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@Levi , this new chassis will have the next generation LC not a facelift of the current

They will make it even for the sporty sedan
You can say it's the new N and L together
 

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Here is where I am confused.

I think Lexus themselves are still very early in development, and they themselves don't know where they're going with the projects.

Initially Lexus announced a future sports coupe replacing both the RC/LC based on a GT3 sports car, and followed up with a fully electric LFA successor in 2030, and main multiple headlines about it.

*Now* I'm seeing that the GT3 coupe "LFR" powered by the 4.0TTV8 is being talked about/referred to as the LFA successor, so I think there's a ton of confusion because Lexus themselves are unsure of what's going on maybe?
Well they had better be getting their **** together because with the GT3 regs changing in 2024 they need to have something a heck of a lot closer to coming out or at least a more firm time table of what they are going to do. Unless they think they can continue to race the RC F for multiple years after 2024 but I don't see that car can be competitive.
 

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They've pretty clearly communicated that what we have seen is the universal adaptable underpinnings of their new GT3 car. They very specifically talked about the limitations of starting with a road car like the RC vs purpose built and then delineated to commercial applications.
 

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They've pretty clearly communicated that what we have seen is the universal adaptable underpinnings of their new GT3 car. They very specifically talked about the limitations of starting with a road car like the RC vs purpose built and then delineated to commercial applications.
So that means we're getting like an AMG GT M8 types vehicle
 

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This right there is a proof the upcoming car will be L badged. That's why they switched the badges on the concept later on.
Nope , you are totally mistaken

It will simply be the FR baseline for all upcoming coupes, cabrios and maybe even sedan , just take another look at the wheel base and how long it is
 

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Toyota's next-generation GT3 racer set for 2026 WEC debut

Toyota has revealed that its next-generation GT3 car based on the GR GT3 Concept is scheduled for a European racing debut in 2026.


The Japanese manufacturer took the covers off the forerunner of what will be its first entry into the GT3 marketplace in almost a decade at last year's Tokyo Auto Salon, with ambitions of taking it to the World Endurance Championship and Le Mans 24 Hours.

Since then, the car is known to have started track testing and was spotted in action during a private test session at Toyota-owned Fuji Speedway earlier this year.

It had been thought that the car was being lined up for a race debut in 2025, the year after the WEC is opened up to GT3 cars.

But due to delays to the planned release of the GR GT3-derived road car that will be launched to coincide with the race version, Toyota is now targeting a WEC debut in 2026.

"Everybody knows we are developing a car, and this car will come to race in Europe in 2026," Toyota WEC team director Rob Leupen told Motorsport.com.

"The date is in alignment with the road car side, which is following the philosophy of Toyota to have a motorsport-bred car on the road. This is moving forward at the moment."

Reports have suggested that the car based on the GR GT3 will be badged as a Lexus, which has repeatedly hinted at introducing a successor for the ageing RC F GT3.

Asked whether the new car will be known as a Lexus, Leupen replied: "At the moment, it seems to be. It depends on how it develops within Toyota, but at the moment, yes."


Leupen wouldn't be drawn on whether the new car would be given a race debut before it comes to the WEC in 2026.

"It will be tested," he said. "They have a clear view on what they want to do in Japan, so it's a bit premature to make strong statements on this at the moment."

Racing the car in an unhomologated state in Japan's Super Taikyu series would be an option should Toyota wish to gain race mileage with the car before its official debut.

Toyota should in theory be guaranteed grid slots for the GR GT3-derived racer in 2026, as the WEC has clarified that existing Hypercar manufacturers will be given priority when it comes to allocating places.

It was revealed in the run-up to Le Mans earlier this month that manufacturers will be offered no fewer and no more than two entries each.