New-car import-ban being considered by the Russians

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Well, as if we haven't had enough friction with the Russians in the last few years (Ukraine, Crimea, Edward Snowden, oil-sanctions, Syria, etc.....) now comes the strong possibility of another one (this one clearly a thread-topic for our forum).....a ban by the Russians on new vehicles from the U.S., EU, and Japan. (South Korean-based manufacturers Hyundai, Kia, Daewoo, and maybe some Chinese manufacturers, could benefit from that if the ban doesn't include them).

Given the global nature of today's auto industry, where vehicles can be designed in one (or more) countries, built in other countries, sold or not sold in many others, and whose companies can own (or be owned) by others outside of the home country, the ban, at least the way the article states it, doesn't seem to state or define just what an American, European, or Japanese manufacturer is. But, as I understand it (and common sense would probably dictate), most likely, it means the official nationality of the company's world headquarters.

(And, of course, with all of VW's other current problems, this is just what they need on top of it....no Russian sales).

http://wardsauto.com/politics/russia-weighing-ban-car-imports-us-eu-japan


ST. PETERSBURG, Russia – The withering Russian auto market could shrink further due to plans by the government to ban car imports from the U.S., European Union and Japan in response to sanctions imposed on the country by the West.

The ban also may apply to trucks and buses.

The Russian government in July halted purchases of imported cars for state needs. According to Vladimir Gutenev, first deputy chairman of the Duma (Parliament) Committee on Industry, the ban could be extended to private-sector importers of vehicles priced below RR800,000 to RR900,000 ($21,600 to $24,300) and possibly expanded to all imports from Western countries that enact new sanctions against Russia.

The EU has said it may amend its sanctions if it receives evidence Russia is holding to the peace plan designed to halt fighting between pro-Russian rebels and the Ukrainian army in eastern Ukraine, The Wall Street Journal reports. The Kremlin has denied militarily backing the rebels.

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev recently said Russia is ready to adopt protective measures in the domestic auto industry that will take into account “Russia’s own opportunities.”

According to Russian Ministry of Industry and Trade data, imports comprise 27% of all car sales in the country; trucks, 46%; and buses, 13%. The largest exporter of cars to Russia is Japan, accounting for 183,000 units of the total volume of 792,000 in 2013. Japan also has imposed sanctions.

The second-biggest importer is the U.K. (112,500 units), followed by Germany (92,000). Russia accounts for 3% of the total volume of cars built in Germany.

An expanded ban on car imports likely would have the greatest effect on global automakers without production capacity in Russia, including Mercedez-Benz, Honda, Suzuki and Volvo.

In contrast, representatives of Nissan, Toyota, Ford Sollers, KAMAZ and Renault say Western sanctions have not curtailed their business.

Automakers from countries such as South Korea and China, which have not imposed sanctions, could benefit significantly from such a ban. However, Russian analysts note, an influx of inexpensive Korean and Chinese cars could further depress sales of low-cost models from local manufacturers such as AvtoVAZ.

Sanctions and general economic instability in Russia already have cut into sales by some global manufacturers, particularly premium automakers such as BMW, which reports its deliveries in the country are down 12% year-to-date.

Overall Russian new-vehicle sales in August dropped 25.8% from like-2013 and were off 12.1% year-to-date, according to the Association of European Businesses Automobile Manufacturers Committee. The AvtoVAZ-built Lada was last month’s sales leader despite a 32% plunge from year-ago, and deliveries were down 18% after eight months.

A ban on imports from nations that have sanctioned Russia could have long-term negative effects, according to Ministry of Industry and Trade analysts. Shipments mainly from South Korea and China, coupled with declining sales of local models, could give imports a 67% share of the Russian market by 2020 – compared with the current 27%.

Moreover, a shrinking local market would make it unprofitable for South Korean and Chinese automakers to maintain production in Russia.

Sources within the Ministry of Industry and Trade who asked not to be identified for fear of dismissal say the worst-case scenario would involve a ban on imports of auto parts which, in turn, could halt operations at most Russian assembly plants, including those operated by global automakers.
 

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AvtoVAZ is now in partnership with Renault Nissan, and there are Ladas that are based on Renaults, as well as Datsuns that are based on Ladas. So, even if Russia bans the rest of imports, I guess Renault might be an exception.
 

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AvtoVAZ is now in partnership with Renault Nissan, and there are Ladas that are based on Renaults, as well as Datsuns that are based on Ladas. So, even if Russia bans the rest of imports, I guess Renault might be an exception.

So Ghosn got his hands on Lada, too, in addition to Nissan (Datsun) and Infiniti? If so, I wasn't aware of that.
 

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So Ghosn got his hands on Lada, too, in addition to Nissan (Datsun) and Infiniti? If so, I wasn't aware of that.

According to wikipedia "On 3 May 2012, the Renault-Nissan alliance has signed letter of intent to raise its stake in Avtovaz to a majority by taking a majority share of 67.13% of a joint venture with the Russian state-controlled company, Russian Technologies, to own 74.5% of Avtovaz. This would raise the share of the Renault-Nissan Alliance in AvtoVAZ to 51.01%.[29] Renault and Nissan will invest $750,000,000 in the joint venture."

There also a GM-AutoVAZ joint venture as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM-AvtoVAZ
 

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According to wikipedia "On 3 May 2012, the Renault-Nissan alliance has signed letter of intent to raise its stake in Avtovaz to a majority by taking a majority share of 67.13% of a joint venture with the Russian state-controlled company, Russian Technologies, to own 74.5% of Avtovaz. This would raise the share of the Renault-Nissan Alliance in AvtoVAZ to 51.01%.[29] Renault and Nissan will invest $750,000,000 in the joint venture."

There also a GM-AutoVAZ joint venture as well. They are planning to start producing a second generation of Chevrolet Niva in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM-AvtoVAZ
 

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According to wikipedia "On 3 May 2012, the Renault-Nissan alliance has signed letter of intent to raise its stake in Avtovaz to a majority by taking a majority share of 67.13% of a joint venture with the Russian state-controlled company, Russian Technologies, to own 74.5% of Avtovaz. This would raise the share of the Renault-Nissan Alliance in AvtoVAZ to 51.01%.[29] Renault and Nissan will invest $750,000,000 in the joint venture."

There also a GM-AutoVAZ joint venture as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM-AvtoVAZ


Thanks. I also checked some other Wiki sites on Ghosn and Renault....they showed the AutoVAZ deal effective last year, in 2014. That would apparantly explain the Renault-based Ladas. I've seen comments about old-generation Ladas being built like tanks, but actual in-the-field experience not being very good with reliability. My guess is that having Renault design them won't help the reliability much.