Jalopnik: BMW Engines Are Gigantic Pieces of ****

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Few marques command as much respect from people who crave performance as BMW, and the M line of cars in particular are some of the most desirable and most powerful vehicles around. However, there’s a closely guarded secret that no respected publication would ever broach, and it’s that all BMW engines are monumental piles of unreliable garbage.

It’s no secret that German reliability is a myth. The likelihood of an average German car making it 10 years without several unplanned roadside mishaps approaches the same probability of you waking up tomorrow as Katy Perry.

Before I get several angry, slur-laden, and poorly-spelled emails from bimmer bros that need to prove that their 130,000 mile, salvage-title 335xi with the M-tech package is just as reliable as it was when they first decided to finance it for 96 months from their uncle’s buy-here-pay-here-lot, let me give you a little much-needed perspective.


Over the last few years, I’ve bought and sold some of BMW’s most desirable consumer cars. I’ve owned them, driven them, and most importantly, worked on them - five in total, ranging from the arguably benign E36 M3 to the staple of performance that is the E39 M5.

Without any hint of sarcasm or hyperbole, I can tell you that every single time I started any engine with a BMW badge on it, there was the same sense of concerned dread that the stereotypical bomb squad guys got in ‘80s action flicks. Starting and running a high-strung BMW engine that’s destined for daily driver duty without incident is like finding a briefcase with a big red LCD display with five seconds left, with the choice of cutting the red wire or the blue wire, as a sweating Danny Glover somewhere in the background tells you that he’s too old for this ****. It’s a literal time bomb.

Let’s take, for example, my old E36 M3. It featured a US-only spec 3.2 liter straight six cylinder engine that produced around 240 horsepower. It also had a unique problem in which the nut that held the sprocket driving the oil pump would fall off. Yes, the one thing that made sure your engine was oiled properly would simply fall apart, because it wasn’t torqued down properly from the factory.

If this part went, as it was apt to do over time, your engine, maligned by some as the worst M3 engine ever made, would be considered a prime candidate for the deadest M3 engine ever made, as the insides would turn themselves to confetti in short order. This wasn’t so much as a defect as it was a promise, a race against the clock that would net you one hell of a story to tell your friends as you cry into your already tear-soaked repair bill.

And that’s the reliable one.


If you move to more late model stuff, the situation gets a bit more dire.Let’s take the E46 M3, for example. It featured a 333-horsepower naturally aspirated inline six cylinder engine that was more unreliable than an AA meeting sponsored by Miller Lite. These engines were were plagued with connecting rod bearing failures, issues with the variable cam timing (VANOS), crankcase ventilation failures, hard starting, and their cooling systems were made of plastic and sealed, ensuring catastrophic failure where scalding hot coolant would shoot out of your engine bay, overheating your engine, at which point your head gasket would blow.

The same goes for every M-branded car that BMW has made in the last decade, and these problems are well-documented. The E60 M5's V10 willchew through its rod bearings in less than 60,000 miles and has rampant and costly SMG pump failures. The E92 M3 will also devour its rod bearings in short order. The new M3 and M4 engines have crank hub failures that take the engine out of sync and smash the valves into the pistons. They also suffer from oil cooler issues, in which overheating is a valid concern, especially if you’re the kind of person that drives your car like the PR reps claim you can around a track.

Ah yes, but those are only the special, performance-only versions of engines BMW makes! The regular ones are the ones you want,” you type while the oil puddle underneath your car drips its way into the Earth one millimeter at a time. Sorry, but not quite.

For example, the E39 540i had timing chain guides made of melted jellybeans that would literally start disintegrating as soon as you eventhought about the concept of an expired warranty, leaving a potentially huge chunky mess at the bottom of your oil pan, but that wouldn’t matter, as your oil pump mounting bolts would work themselves out way before that ever occurred. The engine would reduce itself from a taut, muscular bellow to a feeble, rattly, barely-running mess in about 120,000 miles, and that’s unacceptable for a $5000 Craigslist beater, much less a near-$60,000-when-new luxury performance sedan.

That’s exactly why I sold mine for a massive loss and couldn’t have been happier to get rid of the problematic nuisance.

The earlier inline-six cylinders featured in the 3 and 5 series cars alsosuffered from a brittle cooling system that would spring leaks and rupture without any advance notice, cooking up a recipe that ended with a blown head gasket and a classified listing that reads: “runs good, needs engine.”

Going further down the hierarchy, the relatively new N20-series engines that featured four cylinders and turbochargers experienced timing chain stretching that necessitated two weeks’ downtime and a new engine. Not the end of the world with a warranty, but bank account destroying if you’re one mile out of the safe zone.

At the very top of the non-performance totem pole is the 7 Series, a car known for shitting its valve guide seals. Though I wrote an explainer on how to fix the issue, the fact remains that these problems shouldn’t happen from a manufacturer that advertises its cars as “The Ultimate Driving Machine.”

If my anecdotes and forum sleuthing doesn’t persuade you, perhaps you can compare the aggregated long-term reliability of, say, any BMW modelmade in the last 20 years with that of a regular, boring-ass Toyota Corolla. The Bimmer consistently scores 20-30 points less than any comparable econobox, warranty or not.

At this point, I, as well as anyone with two brain cells to rub together, should be completely turned off to the idea of realistically owning a BMW if it has anything close to its original engine living in the bay. They may perform well for a period of time, but the very real risk of catastrophic failure on any or all of the internal components in these particular engines is enough to let anyone in the used car market stay the hell away.

Source: http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/bmw-engines-are-gigantic-pieces-of-****-1784684330
 

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But seriously, this writer has a point. When you look across the engine lineup, from four cylinders to eight, I think it's safe to say that BMW has struggled to build engines that are powerful and responsive, but also reliable.

I know everyone takes to the internet when they're mad, but the web is full of stories about engine failures on everything from the 128i to an M4. It's bad.

BMW tends to get a pass because their cars do drive so well when they work, but I personally know several people with the HPFP failure issue on the I6, and my neighbor just had the fuel pump go out on his brand new 328Xi with less than 1,000 miles on the clock. Another friend had a 550i that drank oil, which the dealer told him was completely normal.
 
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Generally, I don't like this takedown articles -- it's easy to cherry pick problems from nearly any car brand (never Lexus, of course!). But at the same time, I actually gasped a couple times reading this. Who in the world would approval a plastic cooling system?
 

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I did not read the whole article but its right on point. I will never own another BMW but I will gladly lease them. Their lease rates are great and the cars are great when everything works. But I would not want the headache outside of the warranty. I had my X5 since 2012 and only put about 23-24k miles on it, and its already received about $20k worth of warranty repairs.
 

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I won't vouch for the long-term reliability of BMW engines, because I have never owned one. But I can definitely say that the worst-assembled modern car I have done a review on was a bright blue 2008 BMW M3 coupe....brand-new, with less than 20 miles on it. Checking out the (rather cramped) rear seat, I tried to pull the center arm rest down out of its housing in the seatback......only to have the whole assembly, hinges and all, flop out and drop down on the rear floor. At the factory, somebody (or some robot) had simply pushed it into the hole in the setback and moved on....never even secured it. Then, when I tried to adjust the electric driver's seat, the controls either cut in and out at random or virtually didn't work at all. A couple of BMW techs came out of the service shop and looked at it.......they couldn't get them to work properly, either (I later heard it took a complete rewiring). It took almost 30 minutes for me to get the seat positioned to an even minimally acceptable driving position, but I finally did the test-drive......hoping that nothing else would break down (it didn't).

I will state, though, that no other brand-new BMW product I've personally reviewed (except that M3) showed that kind of assembly-shoddiness....though, like the person who wrote that article, I've heard a lot of horror stories.
 
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Ford Motor Co. did on V8 Explorers, and radiators lasted 50K miles or just outside of warranty period, lol.

......just as the Explorer's reputation was recovering from the Firestone Wilderness tire rollovers LOL.

Maybe slightly off-topic, but, at one time, a few decades ago, Ford did an experimental 2.3L in-line 4 that was (mostly) plastic, with metal used only in the pistons/valves and a few other parts, mostly around the crankshaft. The obvious attempt was to save weight. Fortunately, it never saw production.

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Ford's had several lame ideas put into production, including silver paint with no primer, weak V8 cast crankshafts, plastic V8 intake manifolds subject to massive cooling loss, (not to get too OT from original article). Sadly BMW was not being that original with its poor technology/plastic cooling systems.
 

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......just as the Explorer's reputation was recovering from the Firestone Wilderness tire rollovers LOL.

In fairness, aside from the tires that era of Explorer was decent. A good friend managed to buy one with a manual transmission, and inevitably someone tried to steal it but couldn't drive stick so they got away about 10 feet.
 

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In fairness, aside from the tires that era of Explorer was decent. A good friend managed to buy one with a manual transmission, and inevitably someone tried to steal it but couldn't drive stick so they got away about 10 feet.


I agree, but, to some extent, the term "decent" can be relative. The front suspension on early Explorers could be traced back to the ancient Ford Twin I-Beam that was first introduced on 1964 pickups. The Wilderness tires failed mostly on summertime roads in the south and southwest, with extremely high pavement temperatures and heavily loaded vehicles....heat, of course, is one of a tire's worst enemies. What happened was that early Explorers had a harsh, truck-like ride that customers complained about....partly a result of the dated underpinnings. Ford had had a business partnership with Firestone since the early days of Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone, using many of their products. So, to alleviate customer ride-complaints, Ford took the easy way out.......instead of redesigning the suspension (and over the warnings of engineers), they simply dropped the recommended pressures in the Wilderness tires to make them softer over bumps. The suspension improvements came later. Firestone protested, and said that Ford's recommended PSI's were too low (overly-soft tires can produce friction and heat). Ford, however, stood firm. The lower PSIs turned out to be OK under mild conditions, if the vehicle was not heavily loaded. But on hot pavement, on summer vacations, at high speeds, with the vehicles loaded up and maybe towing boats as well (and with some traditional owner-neglect in regularly checking tire PSIs), it was a different story. Under those conditions, a number of those tires failed, causing out-of-control accidents and sometimes roll-overs.

Ford, though, was probably not entirely at fault. Most tires have a built-in safety factor against overloading that ensures their integrity even past the limits that one can normally expect while driving (and what the vehicle is tested to by engineers). That may not have been the case with the Wilderness tires.....they may have lacked some of that usual safety-factor. And, IMO, owners who neglect to regularly check their tires, drive too fast, or overload their vehicle past the published weight-limits, also share in some of the blame....a factor that the press, at the time, failed to mention, though they covered the Ford and Firestone factors quite well. It is worth mentioning that, shortly after that fiasco, Ford and Firestone ended their century-old partnership, and some Explorer owners (including a few I knew), during the tire-recall, got brand-new Michelin tires installed free.;)

Back to the original topic......have you had any experience with BMW engines, or as an owner?
 
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Ford's had several lame ideas put into production, including silver paint with no primer, weak V8 cast crankshafts, plastic V8 intake manifolds subject to massive cooling loss, (not to get too OT from original article). Sadly BMW was not being that original with its poor technology/plastic cooling systems.

I don't remember the silver paint with no primer....but I'll take your word for it. And, even so, Ford, IMO, can be somewhat forgiven for one or two paint goofs, considering that it was the first mainstream manufacturer to introduce clearcoat paint, on the 1978 Lincoln Versailles. Clearcoat, of course, quickly became the industry standard.......still in use today.

Back to BMW, even worse than the plastic cooling systems, IMO, were the defective electric fan switches in early-model X5s. A number of those switches, when it was time for them to click on (typically at coolant-temperatures of around 220 degrees or so), calmly and quietly decided to go out to lunch, allowing engines to get hot enough to vapor-lock the fuel, suffer other damage, and, in some cases, even catch fire. BMW lost a lot of $$$$$ replacing those expensive engines, and, in some cases, even more expensive 50-60K vehicles under warranty. ;)
 

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I agree, but, to some extent, the term "decent" can be relative. The front suspension on early Explorers could be traced back to the ancient Ford Twin I-Beam that was first introduced on 1964 pickups.

Oh, definitely. Even by body-on-frame SUV standards that thing had a very truck-like ride.

Back to the original topic......have you had any experience with BMW engines, or as an owner?

I don't have personal experience owning one, but I've had plenty of friends and co-workers with them, and the problems (both those in the article, and some others like the transmissions and the occasional electrical gremlin) are real. My brother had a modern Mini Cooper (which of course is owned/designed by BMW) where the engine overheated, failed catastrophically, and stranded his wife on I-95 about a week after the warranty expired.
 

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Basically, I agree with Lutz (as I also have on a number of other occasions).....and, as far as Rafael's question is concerned, he answered it correctly. But I think that, as far as it relates to this thread-topic, it overlooks the fact that owners of today's vanilla-flavor BMWs and yesterday's more-spicy ones would both want reliable engines. Reliability is not a matter that can really be decided by the amount of sport-orientation in a vehicle's chassis.