Car Buzz Calls Lexus RZ “Dead on Arrival” Due to Price

[krew]

Heavy on the drama, but there’s some good points here.

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[Kelvin2020]

The disrespect is enough.

 

[ssun30]

Not wrong.

 

[mediumhot]

Not wrong.

But not right either. Sure battery tech sucks and it's the major reason why range is bad as well as the reason why it takes a hit of 35% at very low temperatures. It doesn't qualify for the federal tax and none of the import BEVs ever will, that's just government market protection against Chinese imports and that's ok. They had to reclassify SUVs so Cadillac could get the tax credit for Lyriq.

I am not buying the argument that EV buyers consider range first and everything else second. There are a lot of people who want their EV to look and feel like a regular car.

This car will do better in other markets compared to US most likely.

 

[Levi]

But not right either. Sure battery tech sucks and it's the major reason why range is bad as well as the reason why it takes a hit of 35% at very low temperatures. It doesn't qualify for the federal tax and none of the import BEVs ever will, that's just government market protection against Chinese imports and that's ok. They had to reclassify SUVs so Cadillac could get the tax credit for Lyriq.

I am not buying the argument that EV buyers consider range first and everything else second. There are a lot of people who want their EV to look and feel like a regular car.

This car will do better in other markets compared to US most likely.

We ICEV (Toyota) drivers said BEVs (Teslas) have little range, BEV (Tesla) drivers said most drivers don't need more range (insert shady statistics). Now BEV (Tesla) drivers say other BEVs (Toyotas) have little range. I though it was enough for most needs? Now it is not?

 

[Tragic Bronson]

I didn't see the article posted, but here it is for context

2023 Lexus RZ Looks Dead On Arrival With $60,000 Price Tag

The 2023 Lexus RZ 450e finally has a price tag, and as we feared, the first electric vehicle from Lexus (in the US market) does not look competitive. Pricing for the entry-level RZ 450e Premium AWD starts at $59,650, including a glass roof and 14-inch infotainment system. Available options...

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[ssun30]

The bZ4X has to sell at 30% discount in China just three months after launch. This is what happens when Toyota realize they have to compete for once.

On needs to be unreasonably loyal to Lexus to buy this garbage at $60k.

 

[IS-SV]

The few of us with actual/real/significant EV driving experience know the importance of EV range. In many US western states we cruise at 80 mph consistently on freeways and highways and that results in range of only 70% to 75% of EPA "combined" range, So 300 miles of EPA range minimum is a necessity.