300-Series Land Cruiser (Next LX)

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They pulled out of a market where they sell an extra 0 a year so they certainly have a track record here.

Which of the two has more brand familiarity in USA? Sequoia or Land Cruiser?
 

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The Land Cruiser is basically unknown in the US, and trying to lux it up to compete with Land Rover would make the LX redundant. So I can see them cutting the Cruiser and just revising the LX in the US.
 
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The Land Cruiser is basically unknown in the US, and trying to lux it up to compete with Land Rover would make the LX redundant. So I can see them cutting the Cruiser and just revising the LX in the US.
Um, its not unknown....its been in the Toyota portfolio since '57 so the LC name is legendary. Its just so expensive now most buyers can't buy it and it competes with Rovers and endless other SUVs (including the LX), most with newer technology (folks that don't tend to keep vehicles over 10 years). Those other choices are just more luxurious and fewer owners that bought it new are interested in taking it offroad, and the LX even less so.
 

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2 things: Thought the LX/LC refresh was MY21. I guess unofficially its now MY22. Next thing is, could they possibly just mistaken the GX rather then the LC? Originally the MY20GX has a EOL at MY22, and MY23 is where the new ones suppose to launch or the GX dies. Again all speculation here. It`d be sad to see it go, but I assume the LX just sells more and its just numbers at this point
 

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Um, its not unknown....its been in the Toyota portfolio since '57 so the LC name is legendary.
Car guys know about it and consider it legendary. It might as well be invisible otherwise. Toyota doesn't do marketing for it and it's nearly double the price of a Sequoia. I can't remember the last time I saw one on the road, which is weird given there's an SUV craze going on.
 

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LC300 and LX will debut in autumn of 2020 and we might see concept at TMS. For Japan V8 is not coming and powertrains are V6 turbo and multistage turbohybrid. LX is developed alongside from the beginning so it is not just a rebadge.
 

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4X4 Australia got hints of a diesel-hybrid system for the LC300 from the vice president of sales and marketing of Toyota Australia. Makes a lot of sense considering over 99% of their truck and SUV sales there are diesels. There are also rumors of a six-cylinder diesel engine to replace the V8. A modern reincarnation of the legendary HZ and HD is certainly very welcome.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/toyota-300-series-land-cruiser-diesel-hybrid-system

Toyota Australia also hints at a successor to the Land Cruiser 70. That's very exciting to hear. It remains to be seen whether this will be based on the proven J200 LC or N130 Hilux platforms or a clean sheet design based on TNGA-F.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/future-toyota-70-series-land-cruiser

Australia is by far the biggest market for LC so Toyota Australia has a lot of influence on the design of the future LC so I wouldn't be surprised if these prove to be true.
 

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LC300 will get detuned V35A-FTS turbo with 180ps/30.6kgm motor and will achieve 10km/L in city. Note that this engine configuration is for Japan there maybe different engines for differen parts of world.
This is the final design:
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Regarding the engine, it will be factor in the body weight for overall performance and I think that the most powerful engine will be V35A-FTS with its full power + a motor or 2 and a big battery as PHEV with hp not less than 500

Regarding the design, all what I see is Armada / Patrol lines especially the rear end, I also didn't digest the rear pillars as Toyota never make them looking like 90° straight line perpendicular on the body like that, I love the side bold lines and the integration of the lines with the authentic Land Cruiser side windows lines, that's really a good profile, from front it's a Land Cruiser with its hood lines and creases and the large opening with Toyota emblem in the middle adding all these elements to the bottom skid, but the head lights and the black bar vents from the 2 lights is some how strange for me
 
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^thanks Gecko! I don’t have the money for a LC, however I am following it’s news in hopes to hear or see some things on the new Tundra. I’m ready to drop some cash on an all new Tundra and am anxious!
 
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