2023 Honda Impala with 204hp tops

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YAWN. Looks like a Ford Fusion that got it's soul sucked out as my friend put it, or a "slightly used bar of soap" my coworker called it LMAO.

Literally a soft, round snoozefest. Incredibly underwhelming to look at in person. Such a shame, the 10th gen was an absolute stunner IMO especially in Sport trim.
 

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YAWN. Looks like a Ford Fusion that got it's soul sucked out as my friend put it, or a "slightly used bar of soap" my coworker called it LMAO.

Literally a soft, round snoozefest. Incredibly underwhelming to look at in person. Such a shame, the 10th gen was an absolute stunner IMO especially in Sport trim.
That rental car aura feels so strong with this new Accord.
 

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If you look at sales Honda’s Accord has been on a downward projectory for awhile now. Pre covid. The Camry has been down but now has held. They used to sell close to one another and now the Camry far outsells it’s. So even with the consumer shift to crossovers somehow the Accord just is missing the target it normally hit. What makes this weird is most consider the 9th gen a best in class product. Maybe Honda is throwing in the Accord towel.

Camry
2016
388,616
2017
387,081
2018
343,439
2019
336,978
2020
294,348
2021
313,795
2022
295,201

Accord
2016
345,135
2017
322,655
2018
291,071
2019
267,567
2020
199,458
2021
202,676
2022
154,612
 

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Wow, I didn't realize the sales gap had grown that wide. I remember the days when those two cars were called the "CamCord" and considered basically equivalent.
 

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Camry is a fleet vehicle now, at least 90% of them here in NYC are Ubers. Accord is also relatively popular with Uber, but not as much as Camry.
 

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Camry is a fleet vehicle now, at least 90% of them here in NYC are Ubers. Accord is also relatively popular with Uber, but not as much as Camry.

I’ve gotten into just as many accords as camrys for uber. Nothing beats the model 3 tho… they are uber #1 lol
 

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If you look at sales Honda’s Accord has been on a downward projectory for awhile now. Pre covid. The Camry has been down but now has held. They used to sell close to one another and now the Camry far outsells it’s. So even with the consumer shift to crossovers somehow the Accord just is missing the target it normally hit. What makes this weird is most consider the 9th gen a best in class product. Maybe Honda is throwing in the Accord towel.

Camry
2016
388,616
2017
387,081
2018
343,439
2019
336,978
2020
294,348
2021
313,795
2022
295,201

Accord
2016
345,135
2017
322,655
2018
291,071
2019
267,567
2020
199,458
2021
202,676
2022
154,612
Even in where I'm from, you'll see way more XV70 Camrys(the current gen) than 10th gen Accords, despite the Accord being cheaper than the Camry because it is assembled locally while Camry is imported from Thailand, not to mention much cheaper road tax than the Camry as well due to its engine being 1 whole liter smaller than Camry's 2.5L. Maybe people here feel like the 10th gen Accord with the 1.5T is just an XL-sized 10th gen Civic and not worth the extra cash over the Civic.
 

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I’ve gotten into just as many accords as camrys for uber. Nothing beats the model 3 tho… they are uber #1 lol

Almost no Uber Teslas here in NYC, they just don't work in colder climates, and there is no charging infrastructure. Most Ubers here are Camrys/Rav4s/Highlanders/Siennas. There are plenty of Accords/CRVs as well, but nowhere near as many as Toyotas. Either way, from a passenger standpoint, Accords and CRVs feel a lot better built with much better interior materials.