Toyota Land Cruiser Prado/250 Series Discussion
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I'm glad Kai is calling them out. The LC250 feels like a very low effort product compared to the GX and even NA market 4Runner. They are simply selling the badge for a big price premium.
If you want the best stock Toyota offroad SUV, buy a GX550 OT. The GX vs. LC250 comparison is what most Lexus/Toyota pairs should be. But unfortunately we are getting the opposite where the Toyota variant is the one getting more effort.
If you want the best stock Toyota offroad SUV, buy a GX550 OT. The GX vs. LC250 comparison is what most Lexus/Toyota pairs should be. But unfortunately we are getting the opposite where the Toyota variant is the one getting more effort.
The product overlap between the upper 4Runner trims and LC250 doesn’t make any sense to me. For $65k, I’d rather have a LC250 over an upper spec 4Runner, but if I’m going to pay $65k for a LC250, I might as well by the GX550.
I think Toyota needs to add the V35A as an option to the LC250. The GX could then get the 389hp V35A (maybe even the 420hp tune), while the LX retains the hybrid max option. That gives us a nice progression of engine output from the 4Runner to the LX. The LC250 needs to offer the pano roof as well. Lowering the price on the 4Runner would help too. A $65k 4Runner is ridiculous.
This all goes back to what the Land Cruiser should’ve been: A FJ Cruiser replacement/Bronco competitor.
I think Toyota needs to add the V35A as an option to the LC250. The GX could then get the 389hp V35A (maybe even the 420hp tune), while the LX retains the hybrid max option. That gives us a nice progression of engine output from the 4Runner to the LX. The LC250 needs to offer the pano roof as well. Lowering the price on the 4Runner would help too. A $65k 4Runner is ridiculous.
This all goes back to what the Land Cruiser should’ve been: A FJ Cruiser replacement/Bronco competitor.
The 4Runner is the FJ replacement/Bronco competitor. The whole purpose of the LC250 in US market is to milk every dime out of this trademark. That's why you see all those corner cutting. Profit maximization is the only goal for this product.
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For the US too??Patent of LC250 pickup:
…in fact it is Chery….
Beware the fine print... Is this true that this is a Chery and not a Toyota?
Introducing the Land Cruiser Hybrid 48V: a new powertrain for Toyota’s legendary SUV
First electrified powertrain to be featured in the Toyota Land Cruiser in EuropeHybrid 48V system provides smoother, more comfortable performance in both on and off-road drivingNo compromise in Land Cruiser’s formidable off-road capabilities – including 700 mm wading depthEuropean sales starting...
They use a useless 4.3Ah battery that provides a few seconds of power at most and maybe a few minutes of engine-off idling. They claim it's a lightweight battery but the energy density is only 27Wh/kg, lower than even many lead acid batteries and far lower than NiMH batteries. What's the point of using Li-ion if they can't even take advantage of Li-ion's energy density?
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interesting
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This might be the coolest van alternative ever — and did we mention its usefulness? — CAR
Useful side of Land Cruiser’s personality comes to the fore
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I spent a week and put maybe 800 miles on a base spec 1958. I absolutely loved it.
Manual eveything. Cloth seats. Just a rugged 4x4 except it drives smooth. Feels built from granite. 58k delivered. More to come,
Manual eveything. Cloth seats. Just a rugged 4x4 except it drives smooth. Feels built from granite. 58k delivered. More to come,
Just to inform, it is indeed a Jetour G700 by Chery. The wagon was just released. So the pickup should be some time later. Not for EU or NA market of course.
