Toyota Land Cruiser FJ Discussion

[NomadDan]

There’s been rumors going around that the mini Land Cruiser was going to be called Land Cruiser FJ. I’d like to see it, especially if the rumors of it being BOF are true too.

 

[NomadDan]

Kirk has a video with latest Best Car info on the Land Cruiser FJ. I can’t find a link to the article, but latest rumors are:

-hybrid postponed
-2.7 I4 in some markets
-BOF

Personally, I think the detuned SR Tacoma T24 with a 6spd would be a nice drivetrain. I’d like to see the 2.5 I4 used with the hybrid, but that’s probably wishful thinking.

 

[NomadDan]

David at AutomotivePress just posted a very click-bait video with some new Land Cruiser FJ info from BestCar. Highlights:

-It will use the IMV platform, not TNGA-F
-Production to start in November and go on sale as a 2025 model
-May be named Land Cruiser FJ or Land Cruiser Fun
-2.7 engine initially offered, with possible hybrid later. Diesel may be offered at a latter time once the diesel scandal gets sorted out.
-Larger than a Jimny, but smaller that a LC250

Apparently it will be offered with a 2.8 diesel if a diesel engine were to happen. I question the accuracy of this since the 2.4 is offered in the Champ. The 2.4 seems to be more appropriate for a vehicle of this size.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this Land Cruiser FJ ends up riding on the same platform as the Fortuner, just with much shorter overhangs. We’ve heard that the LC FJ will be about the size of the Corolla Cross. The Fortuner wheelbase is less than 2 inches longer than the Corolla Cross wheelbase, and with short overhangs, we could see an LC-FJ at about the same overall length (or less).

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

David at AutomotivePress just posted a very click-bait video with some new Land Cruiser FJ info from BestCar. Highlights:

-It will use the IMV platform, not TNGA-F
-Production to start in November and go on sale as a 2025 model
-May be named Land Cruiser FJ or Land Cruiser Fun
-2.7 engine initially offered, with possible hybrid later. Diesel may be offered at a latter time once the diesel scandal gets sorted out.
-Larger than a Jimny, but smaller that a LC250

Apparently it will be offered with a 2.8 diesel if a diesel engine were to happen. I question the accuracy of this since the 2.4 is offered in the Champ. The 2.4 seems to be more appropriate for a vehicle of this size.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this Land Cruiser FJ ends up riding on the same platform as the Fortuner, just with much shorter overhangs. We’ve heard that the LC FJ will be about the size of the Corolla Cross. The Fortuner wheelbase is less than 2 inches longer than the Corolla Cross wheelbase, and with short overhangs, we could see an LC-FJ at about the same overall length (or less).

So if it's on the IMV platform, we're not getting it then no?

 

[NomadDan]

So if it's on the IMV platform, we're not getting it then no?

I don’t know, but I’d say it’s doubtful. When it comes to Toyota production and factories, I’m not as knowledgeable as others on this site. That being said, I doubt Toyota will open an IMV production line in the U.S. for a new, unproven model. Argentina has a large Hilux/Fortuner assembly plant, and the Hilux is sold in Mexico. Would Toyota sell Argentinian built vehicles in the U.S.? I don’t know. That would be a first. The other option would be to ship them from Thailand, but Argentina makes more sense to me.

All that being said, the Stout might play a role in all this too. Everyone has been assuming the Stout will be unibody, but I don’t know if that has been confirmed or even a strong rumor. What if the Stout is also built on the IMV chassis? I believe there is a strong demand for the Stout in the U.S., and if the Stout is BOF, I could see it and the LC FJ built alongside each other in the U.S.

 

[Gecko]

I'm not sure if it was true or not, but I read years ago that the IMV platform would not meet US crash test standards which is why some of those products, like the Fortuner, never came to North America.

I don't see a Land Cruiser named product being built on that platform at this point when GA-F exists.

Also, there is no way Toyota will use the ancient 2.7L which was just replaced by a tune of the 2.4L unless they do that in global markets with poorer quality fuel.

 

[NomadDan]

I'm not sure if it was true or not, but I read years ago that the IMV platform would not meet US crash test standards which is why some of those products, like the Fortuner, never came to North America.

I don't see a Land Cruiser named product being built on that platform at this point when GA-F exists.

Also, there is no way Toyota will use the ancient 2.7L which was just replaced by a tune of the 2.4L unless they do that in global markets with poorer quality fuel.

The 2.7 is still offered in all the IMV vehicles (Fortuner, Champ, Hilux, and Innova). It’s also available in the LC250 (that must be slow!). Outside the U.S., the 2.7 makes sense in a LC FJ. I agree though, in the U.S., that wouldn’t fly. A T24 or A25 hybrid make more sense in the U.S. market.

 

[Falcon]

I can’t see them slapping the Land Cruiser nameplate on an IMV vehicle neither. Time will tell.

 

[qtb007]

I'm not sure if it was true or not, but I read years ago that the IMV platform would not meet US crash test standards which is why some of those products, like the Fortuner, never came to North America.

I don't see a Land Cruiser named product being built on that platform at this point when GA-F exists.

Also, there is no way Toyota will use the ancient 2.7L which was just replaced by a tune of the 2.4L unless they do that in global markets with poorer quality fuel.

Fortuner didn't come to the US because it would be a giant miss. It has feminine styling and the interior is very much designed for emerging markets. If people think the current 4Runner is long in the tooth, wait until they set foot in a Fortuner.

 

[Motor]

コンパクトSUV「ランドクルーザーFJ」は24年12月に登場か!?　本気印のラダーフレーム採用も価格は350万円と予想!! - 自動車情報誌「ベストカー」

2023年の秋に速報でお伝えした「ランクルミニ」の情報。その時はエクステリアデザインのみ判明という形で、ほかの情報は不明なままだった。しかしこのほど、エンジンやプラットフォームなどの詳細を入手。どうなる!?　いつ出る!?

bestcarweb.jp

In fact, the design was already almost complete at that point. It was a boxy design reminiscent of early Land Cruisers such as the 20 and 40 series, and its size was about the same as the Corolla Cross. It was easy to handle, and it was sure to be the cheapest Land Cruiser, so expectations were high.

However, there were many things we didn't know at that time. We knew it was an engine-powered car, not a BEV (electric vehicle), but details such as the engine were unknown. There was also no information about the platform, so we could only speculate about that.

It is said that this hybrid was also considered for the Land Cruiser FJ, but was shelved. The reason for this is unclear, but it is possible that it will be introduced a year after its release.

 

[Motor]

予想価格350万円!!　バカ売れ必至の新型[ランクルFJ]！　2.8Lディーゼル搭載で全幅1.83mのカロクロサイズになるか!? - 自動車情報誌「ベストカー」

出せば売れる（そして納期を待つ）という人気車、トヨタのランドクルーザーファミリー。その末弟となるランクルミニこと「FJ」の登場が間近に迫っている。アジア戦略車「IMV 0」のラダーフレームを流用するランクルFJは2024年冬登場!!

bestcarweb.jp

It is the smallest in the series, with dimensions of approximately 4500mm in length, 1830mm in width and 1850mm in height. It is about the same size as a taller Corolla Cross.

Previously, we had reported that the only engine available would be a 2.7L gasoline inline-four, but it has now been revealed that there will also be a 2.8L diesel turbo. The engine will be the same as the domestic version of the Land Cruiser 250. Of course, it will also use the ladder frame.

The introduction of a hybrid model is also being considered, but it will first be available in gasoline and diesel, with an expected price tag of 3.5 million to 4.5 million yen and 4WD only. It is likely to debut sometime in 2024 or early next year.

The Land Cruiser FJ uses the ladder frame of the Asian strategic vehicle "IMV0". Although it is small in size, it is an SUV with durability and toughness worthy of the Land Cruiser name (CG projection created by the Best Car editorial department)

 

[Motor]

Turn on the captions to English.

 

[ssun30]

I think it's no longer possible to build a compact size body on frame vehicle that can comply with collision regulations in developed markets. Ford Bronco Sport and Jeep Renegade/Compass are transverse engine unibody crossovers with some off road enhancements.

I think Toyota should be developing a crossover variant of the upcoming unibody Stout pickup. So for developing markets they have LC Mini-Hilux Champ, and for developed markets they have Stout-Stout Cross.

 

[Trob20]

Some recent trademark filings in the US

 

[CRSKTN]

I appreciate they can't seem to decide if Land[ ]Cruiser is one word or two

 

[NomadDan]

It's interesting to see a Land Cruiser FJ trademark. The latest rumors pointed to this not being offered in the US due to the supposed IMV platform. Maybe it's not IMV based? Maybe this is something else?

 

[Trob20]

It's interesting to see a Land Cruiser FJ trademark. The latest rumors pointed to this not being offered in the US due to the supposed IMV platform. Maybe it's not IMV based? Maybe this is something else?

It's possible it doesn't lead anywhere, but I'm hopeful we either get the baby Land Cruiser or a new FJ based on the Land Cruiser ROX concept. I'd prefer the baby Land Cruiser as I'd love Toyota to offer a 4WD SUV under $40,000.

 

[qtb007]

Toyota has a chance to do a great troll job by calling this small LC a Prado.

 

[Falcon]

Land Cruiser FJ

 

[Gecko]

How is Toyota using the 2TR-FE in anything in 2026?

I guess this one is bound for second and third world countries?