Toyota Land Cruiser Prado/250 Series Discussion

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2024 Toyota Land Cruiser With Yoke Forgoes Accelerator, Brake Pedals

Toyota is bringing a modified 2024 Land Cruiser to the Japan Mobility Show that has a yoke-like wheel with built-in controls for acceleration and braking.
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The high res photos show some other interesting things below the climate controls. Down by the usb chargers, there’s an HDMI port and a “high idle” button. The volume knob is also moved down below the climate controls.

I don’t know what a high idle button would be used for other than if the hybrid generator were being used to power something externally.
 
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NomadDan said:
there’s an HDMI port and a “high idle” button. The volume knob is also moved down below the climate controls
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This is how the European and I imagine the rest of the world Prado is equipped. The idle up button is for diesels.
 
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This is how the European and I imagine the rest of the world Prado is equipped. The idle up button is for diesels.
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Interesting. Why would a Prado need a high idle option? It’s not like it has a PTO driving a hydraulic pump or anything. I guess I’m a bit naïve here.
 
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The side glass design of the 250 was clearly inspired from this old 4 door 70 series prototype.
(pic from the lc70 book -TOYOTA LAND CRUISER 70 Series - The World's Workhorse - Author: Takeshi Namba.)
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the design idea was revived with the lc250 and finally appeared on a production land cruiser.
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We also see hints of that design in the electric land cruiser Se concept - mixed with the rear lexus style pillar glass
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It looks like there’s some slight revisions to the dash. I like the placement of the volume knob better here. It always looked like an afterthought when it was placed between the screens. It looks like the surround trim around the gauge cluster was recontoured as well. I like these small changes.

It looks like the diesel Prado doesn’t have a center diff locker button. It’s integrated with the 4wd selector. It looks like there is a 4hi, 4hi locked, and 4low locked on the selector. I believe the pictures of the models here in the US just had 4hi and 4low on the selector with a separate button for the center diff lock. Personally I like having the separate diff lock button, but I’d be curious if this was a design change across the board.

 
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I don’t get it…im so confused. How can the 250 series be in between the Prado and 300 series when the 250 series literally has the Prado badge on it in many other countries? Are they talking features?

Can they say it’s a light duty chassis but that it’s “nearly identical” chassis as the 300 series? How nearly identical is it? Same size frame rails? Same size rear diff? Same size front diff? Or are they just talking about nearly identical platform architecture?

The GX press release says the GX rides on the same platform as the LX, but that can’t be.

There is so much different conflicting information…I’m so freaking confused.
 
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I think at early stages they wanted a true light duty platform. It's possible they realized half way that electrification will add so much weight the light duty chassis won't be able to carry much payload. The J150 had 2990kg GVM and it heavily limited how much load the Prado and GX could carry and their potential for overlanding builds. The Tacoma was at a pathetic 2560kg which means it can barely carry any cargo with full passenger. The Tacoma chief engineer said in one of the interviews that they had to upgrade the GVWR of the Trailhunter trim to be used for actual overlanding.

I think the lines between light duty, station wagon and heavy duty are not as clearly defined as before. Every customer want higher GVM and whatever weight savings from the new platform will be eroded away by hybrid parts. It's just not possible to build anything below 3000kg and market it towards the overlanding crowd because they just go crazy with how much gear they pack onto their trucks. I don't know how GVWR works with regulations and insurance in USA but in Australia a GVM upgrade is required to legally drive and obtain insurance if the build is over manufacturer rated GVM. And most Toyotas (except J70) absolutely need one unless you spend tons of money on ultralight components.

We will know the truth once we see the GVM numbers on the J250 and Tacoma.
 
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Toyota opens pre-sales for the all-new Land Cruiser

Customers have first opportunity to place online reservations for the new generation of Toyota’s legendary Land Cruiser SUV, from December 5New model takes Land Cruiser back to its origins as a vehicle engineered to take the toughest conditions in its strideInitial pre-sales open for the...
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