Rumor: 600 Horsepower Lexus RX Morizo RR Coming in 2028

I hope they actually benchmark the X5M or RSQ8 when developing this car. Last time they somehow thought the RX500h FSP could get a lot of conquest sales when it's slower than competitor's base model.

Something tells me that this is going to be the ubiquitous powertrain across all Toyota and Lexus performance-oriented models.

*coughs* A100 GR Supra *coughs*

The performance i4 flopped for Mercedes, why does ToyoLex think people will be willing to fish out 80k+ for an i4?

Understandably they don't have the branding cachet that an "AMG 63" badge has so maybe that's why they think people might be more open to it but I have my doubts

Gor134 said:

The performance i4 flopped for Mercedes, why does ToyoLex think people will be willing to fish out 80k+ for an i4?

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They're stupid.

Gor134 said:

Understandably they don't have the branding cachet that an "AMG 63" badge has so maybe that's why they think people might be more open to it but I have my doubts

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Yup.

To be honest, I don’t think this car will ever make it to production.

Kelvin2020 said:

To be honest, I don’t think this car will ever make it to production.

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Me neither, but if they do, it will be perfectly on-brand for Lexus.

I'm still waiting for the LC-F with a Twin Turbo V8. I'm not holding my breath this time. I passed out the last time and sold my LC500 and got a S63 AMG Coupe. I will believe it when I see it. The RX500h was in the right direction so I have some hope. I am also a Cowboys fan that thinks we are going to win the Superbowl at the start of every season so.....

Lexus Jack said:

I'm still waiting for the LC-F with a Twin Turbo V8.

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It has been very common knowledge that the LCF has been cancelled since 2020.. why wait?

We are getting the TTV8 in the Toyota GR GT instead.

so the F brand is officially dead?

meth.ix said:

so the F brand is officially dead?

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It's always been dead.

Notice how they didnt start being serious about performance Lexus' until that stupid clown Akio Toyoda could have his name on it.

I am going to frame that dude's obituary.

CRSKTN said:

It's always been dead.

Notice how they didnt start being serious about performance Lexus' until that stupid clown Akio Toyoda could have his name on it.

I am going to frame that dude's obituary.

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If that’s truly the case, then I genuinely don’t understand the fixation. The whole world already strongly associates Lexus with Toyota.

blackjack214 said:

If that’s truly the case, then I genuinely don’t understand the fixation. The whole world already strongly associates Lexus with Toyota.

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Lexus was literally invented because the Toyoda name wasnt good enough for americans to be on a luxury car.

The Japanese are understandably not huge fans of the US, now a top family name "isnt good enough" for them, and then the new brand ends up being popular with rappers, and if anyone knows what many old japanese men are like, they arent exactly big on equality of races.

You think their cars have been systematically stuck 10% off being class leading by accident?

You think they cant make a reliable V8 that makes more power than it currently does?

The entire company is built on corner cutting, incremental efforts, good enough products, no adherance to a centrally planned vision of the brand, no control over toyota designers ripping off lexus design features (see LC500 and toyota sienna/camry), and using Lexus as a test bed to see how much you can rip off risk averse people for.

They constantly have employee uprisings and conflicts that never make it out of the company, and anyone who isnt a nepo baby gets worked to death.

It was a 30+ year bait and switch to move up crown/century/toyota in other markets.

Now that the US is no longer the focus of the global economy, they no longer have to pretend to care about western customers beyond phoning in lazy refreshes and uncompetitive-on-arrival offerings.

Now we get to see what the relentless pursuit of mediocrity looks like for Chinese consumers.

Oh, there it is:

Gor134 said:

It has been very common knowledge that the LCF has been cancelled since 2020.. why wait?

We are getting the TTV8 in the Toyota GR GT instead.

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I was just being facetious. I work for a Lexus dealership so I do know what's really coming down the pipeline. Lexus just keeps teasing us with more power and sport but keeps showing up to gun fights with knives. I would love the LF-R but can't afford that. The LC500 really was a great looking and sounding car but fell short on power.. Too bad, a twin turbo V8 in it would have been awesome.

Source:

Had missed this in the Nurburgring industry test videos for May but had a look again and found another RX500H being tested (Other being a Copper Crest version being captured in March). Both had the plates that are similar to those used by Toyota Cologne (including those attached to the GR GT/LFR test cars on the Nurburgring, DAU prefix)

Why don't they just call it the RCF? Also it should have atleast a V6 if it thinks it can go toe-to-toe with the X5M, though realistically this has always been more of an X3 competitor. Not to mention, it is also FWD-based.

Lexus Jack said:

I'm still waiting for the LC-F with a Twin Turbo V8. I'm not holding my breath this time. I passed out the last time and sold my LC500 and got a S63 AMG Coupe. I will believe it when I see it. The RX500h was in the right direction so I have some hope. I am also a Cowboys fan that thinks we are going to win the Superbowl at the start of every season so.....

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CRSKTN said:

It's always been dead.

Notice how they didnt start being serious about performance Lexus' until that stupid clown Akio Toyoda could have his name on it.

I am going to frame that dude's obituary.

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It frustrates me how easy it is to fix this, but they take all the wrong the moves. The Akio comments are a bit extreme, given the fact that he is still helping bring back fun to drive cars, and he is doing well on the Toyota side of things. Lexus needs work on a lot of fronts though.

I think what they should be doing is just have Lexus Appearance/Performance and then just reserve the "F" treatment for the highest end models. F has gotten far too diluted recently. Either F or this Morizo RR, they need to commit to one and only use it for actual performance vehicles. This means that F Appearance stuff can be renamed to Appearance and F-Sport performance can be renamed to Performance. Then simply reserve Lexus F for the highest end variant of what they have. So things like "LCF, RCF, LFR, etc." They should have atleast 6 cylinders each aswell. No 4 cylinder nonsense. Morizo RR does sound cool though. Maybe Morizo F? This is just a brain dump I need to think more about it.

ssun30 said:

I hope they actually benchmark the X5M or RSQ8 when developing this car. Last time they somehow thought the RX500h FSP could get a lot of conquest sales when it's slower than competitor's base model.

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Its not a Q8 rival. This is an X3 rival. They need 6 Cylinder power and RWD-biased powertrains.