Next-Generation Lexus IS Sedan to be Offered with BMW Inline-Six Turbo Engine?

Posted by Kevin on February 18th, 2019

Best Car Magazine in Japan is reporting that the next-generation Lexus IS sedan will be offered with the same BMW Inline-6 turbo engine that powers the all-new Toyota Supra.

The I6 engine, which is rated at 335 horsepower and 365 lb-ft of torque in the Supra, would be one of four engines for the Lexus sedan — a 2.0L turbo, 2.4L turbo, and 2.5L hybrid engine would also be available based on region.

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Best Car also reports that the IS is unlikely to change in size, and will weigh approximately 3,395 lbs. For referenece, the current IS tips the scales at 3,737 lbs.

(Finally, the magazine reiterates the rumor that a next-generation IS F sedan will be resurrected with the twin-turbo V6 engine from the LS flagship.)

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MichaelL
I am very much looking forward to the new IS. It is a car I am potentially looking to as my next car and my first Lexus!
MichaelL
I am very much looking forward to the new IS. It is a car I am potentially looking to as my next car and my first Lexus!
bogglo
waiting for the remaining info
bogglo
waiting for the remaining info
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MichaelL
I am very much looking forward to the new IS. It is a car I am potentially looking to as my next car and my first Lexus!
Me too. Used IS hold their values well here in Canada so maybe it makes sense to just wait for the next gen to arrive and then decide. Also, there likely will not be any full range ACC for the 3IS, while the 2019 Corolla hatchback has the TSS 2.0. Crossing my fingers that a hybrid version (or two) will arrive in Canada.

I found this and saved it on my google drive:

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MichaelL
I am very much looking forward to the new IS. It is a car I am potentially looking to as my next car and my first Lexus!
Me too. Used IS hold their values well here in Canada so maybe it makes sense to just wait for the next gen to arrive and then decide. Also, there likely will not be any full range ACC for the 3IS, while the 2019 Corolla hatchback has the TSS 2.0. Crossing my fingers that a hybrid version (or two) will arrive in Canada.

I found this and saved it on my google drive:

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I was actually chatting about the 4G Lexus IS with my friend today at work.

And this is what we think might happen:
For the 4G IS, we can probably expect the new "L swoosh" or "L check" to be inside the headlight housing. I'm basing this assumption off of the current trends of designs. IE: UX and ES.

We can probably also expect the new GA-L platform, Apple Car Play/Android Auto, Amazon Alexa, Enform 2.0, optional bigger screen (12in), LFA Gauge 2.0, LS steering wheel and possibly the LC seats as F-Sport seats (like the ES) as biggest highlights of the model.

HUD and 360 Camera is probably also expected. But I think HUD will be an optional extra and 360 Camera will only be on the luxury model of the IS and not the F-Sport. I believe this because they did this to the 2019 Lexus ES.
I think Lexus is following this trend of introducing more equipment or features into the "luxury" models of the car while holding out features on the F-Sport till later in the design year. Sorta like how the 3G Lexus IS F-Sport didn't get memory seats till 2018.

Toyota (Lexus) will 100% do something capitalistic and remove some "known" features that you can get on the 3G IS F-Sport and you won't be able to get on the early years of the 4G IS F-Sport. IE: When they introduced the 3G IS F-Sport, they took away memory seats (something the 2G F-Sport had).
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I was actually chatting about the 4G Lexus IS with my friend today at work.

And this is what we think might happen:
For the 4G IS, we can probably expect the new "L swoosh" or "L check" to be inside the headlight housing. I'm basing this assumption off of the current trends of designs. IE: UX and ES.

We can probably also expect the new GA-L platform, Apple Car Play/Android Auto, Amazon Alexa, Enform 2.0, optional bigger screen (12in), LFA Gauge 2.0, LS steering wheel and possibly the LC seats as F-Sport seats (like the ES) as biggest highlights of the model.

HUD and 360 Camera is probably also expected. But I think HUD will be an optional extra and 360 Camera will only be on the luxury model of the IS and not the F-Sport. I believe this because they did this to the 2019 Lexus ES.
I think Lexus is following this trend of introducing more equipment or features into the "luxury" models of the car while holding out features on the F-Sport till later in the design year. Sorta like how the 3G Lexus IS F-Sport didn't get memory seats till 2018.

Toyota (Lexus) will 100% do something capitalistic and remove some "known" features that you can get on the 3G IS F-Sport and you won't be able to get on the early years of the 4G IS F-Sport. IE: When they introduced the 3G IS F-Sport, they took away memory seats (something the 2G F-Sport had).
James
Sakura
I was actually chatting about the 4G Lexus IS with my friend today at work.

And this is what we think might happen:
For the 4G IS, we can probably expect the new "L swoosh" or "L check" to be inside the headlight housing. I'm basing this assumption off of the current trends of designs. IE: UX and ES.

We can probably also expect the new GA-L platform, Apple Car Play/Android Auto, Amazon Alexa, Enform 2.0, optional bigger screen (12in), LFA Gauge 2.0, LS steering wheel and possibly the LC seats as F-Sport seats (like the ES) as biggest highlights of the model.

HUD and 360 Camera is probably also expected. But I think HUD will be an optional extra and 360 Camera will only be on the luxury model of the IS and not the F-Sport. I believe this because they did this to the 2019 Lexus ES.
I think Lexus is following this trend of introducing more equipment or features into the "luxury" models of the car while holding out features on the F-Sport till later in the design year. Sorta like how the 3G Lexus IS F-Sport didn't get memory seats till 2018.

Toyota (Lexus) will 100% do something capitalistic and remove some "known" features that you can get on the 3G IS F-Sport and you won't be able to get on the early years of the 4G IS F-Sport. IE: When they introduced the 3G IS F-Sport, they took away memory seats (something the 2G F-Sport had).
I don’t understand why they take things off of the F Sport. I understand luxuary and all that but I have two F sports because I like how they look better. I still want the luxuary memory seats and 360 camera and all that just with my car looking better. Do other brands do this? I mean if I was getting an M5 I would get the same luxuary as a regular 5 with just a better looking and faster car rt?
James
Sakura
I was actually chatting about the 4G Lexus IS with my friend today at work.

And this is what we think might happen:
For the 4G IS, we can probably expect the new "L swoosh" or "L check" to be inside the headlight housing. I'm basing this assumption off of the current trends of designs. IE: UX and ES.

We can probably also expect the new GA-L platform, Apple Car Play/Android Auto, Amazon Alexa, Enform 2.0, optional bigger screen (12in), LFA Gauge 2.0, LS steering wheel and possibly the LC seats as F-Sport seats (like the ES) as biggest highlights of the model.

HUD and 360 Camera is probably also expected. But I think HUD will be an optional extra and 360 Camera will only be on the luxury model of the IS and not the F-Sport. I believe this because they did this to the 2019 Lexus ES.
I think Lexus is following this trend of introducing more equipment or features into the "luxury" models of the car while holding out features on the F-Sport till later in the design year. Sorta like how the 3G Lexus IS F-Sport didn't get memory seats till 2018.

Toyota (Lexus) will 100% do something capitalistic and remove some "known" features that you can get on the 3G IS F-Sport and you won't be able to get on the early years of the 4G IS F-Sport. IE: When they introduced the 3G IS F-Sport, they took away memory seats (something the 2G F-Sport had).
I don’t understand why they take things off of the F Sport. I understand luxuary and all that but I have two F sports because I like how they look better. I still want the luxuary memory seats and 360 camera and all that just with my car looking better. Do other brands do this? I mean if I was getting an M5 I would get the same luxuary as a regular 5 with just a better looking and faster car rt?
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Sakura
I was actually chatting about the 4G Lexus IS with my friend today at work.

And this is what we think might happen:
For the 4G IS, we can probably expect the new "L swoosh" or "L check" to be inside the headlight housing. I'm basing this assumption off of the current trends of designs. IE: UX and ES.

We can probably also expect the new GA-L platform, Apple Car Play/Android Auto, Amazon Alexa, Enform 2.0, optional bigger screen (12in), LFA Gauge 2.0, LS steering wheel and possibly the LC seats as F-Sport seats (like the ES) as biggest highlights of the model.

HUD and 360 Camera is probably also expected. But I think HUD will be an optional extra and 360 Camera will only be on the luxury model of the IS and not the F-Sport. I believe this because they did this to the 2019 Lexus ES.
I think Lexus is following this trend of introducing more equipment or features into the "luxury" models of the car while holding out features on the F-Sport till later in the design year. Sorta like how the 3G Lexus IS F-Sport didn't get memory seats till 2018.

Toyota (Lexus) will 100% do something capitalistic and remove some "known" features that you can get on the 3G IS F-Sport and you won't be able to get on the early years of the 4G IS F-Sport. IE: When they introduced the 3G IS F-Sport, they took away memory seats (something the 2G F-Sport had).
What about the engine?
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Sakura
I was actually chatting about the 4G Lexus IS with my friend today at work.

And this is what we think might happen:
For the 4G IS, we can probably expect the new "L swoosh" or "L check" to be inside the headlight housing. I'm basing this assumption off of the current trends of designs. IE: UX and ES.

We can probably also expect the new GA-L platform, Apple Car Play/Android Auto, Amazon Alexa, Enform 2.0, optional bigger screen (12in), LFA Gauge 2.0, LS steering wheel and possibly the LC seats as F-Sport seats (like the ES) as biggest highlights of the model.

HUD and 360 Camera is probably also expected. But I think HUD will be an optional extra and 360 Camera will only be on the luxury model of the IS and not the F-Sport. I believe this because they did this to the 2019 Lexus ES.
I think Lexus is following this trend of introducing more equipment or features into the "luxury" models of the car while holding out features on the F-Sport till later in the design year. Sorta like how the 3G Lexus IS F-Sport didn't get memory seats till 2018.

Toyota (Lexus) will 100% do something capitalistic and remove some "known" features that you can get on the 3G IS F-Sport and you won't be able to get on the early years of the 4G IS F-Sport. IE: When they introduced the 3G IS F-Sport, they took away memory seats (something the 2G F-Sport had).
What about the engine?
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James
I don’t understand why they take things off of the F Sport. I understand luxuary and all that but I have two F sports because I like how they look better. I still want the luxuary memory seats and 360 camera and all that just with my car looking better. Do other brands do this? I mean if I was getting an M5 I would get the same luxuary as a regular 5 with just a better looking and faster car rt?
Its a few reasons why a car company does what you are saying. Lets take a look at Lexus firstly.

I think the biggest reason is money and its divided into two different view points:
1) Cost cutting. By taking away features from the previous generation (last years) and not giving it to the new generation (early years), they are able to keep the new generations starting price lower. This is why the Lexus ES starting price is relatively almost the same. I haven't looked into it yet but I think they might have cut some features from the previous generation ES that came as standard.
2) Drawing hype for later year models to get more money. This is what they did for almost the whole life cycle of the 3G IS. The 3G IS F-Sport didn't come with much in the early years of the vehicle. However - over time - they trickle down some of the features from the "luxury" or "Non-F-Sport" model to the F-Sport model. This gave people incentives to buy the new F-Sport models.

Its definitely shady Toyota does this but its business at the end of the day.

Other companies that are guilty of this is Acura. They can't get the A-Spec Package and the Advance package together. I'm sure later in the years, more Advance Pack stuff will trickle down into the A-Spec models.

It sucks companies do this because the "Sport package" models do look much better.

GNS
What about the engine?
Engine is trickley. My friend and I did gossip about engine changes in the 4G IS.

There are two boats in this debate. People that think it'll stay the same. And people think they'll overhaul everything.

My friend and I think its gonna stay the same because Toyota has been known to slow and conservative with engine changes. What I think will happen is they'll keep the Turbo 4, the V6 and then add a IS-F or maybe a IS400 with the TTV6. My money will be on the IS-F getting the TTV6 before they develop a IS400.
Toyota seems to be slow with trickling down stuff. The TTV6 is one of the biggest highlights to the LS. I think it'll be fast of a trickle down to drop the TTV6 straight into a standard IS so fast.

I think they'll drop it into a IS-F because it'll be priced higher and it can draw hype for the "return" of the IS-F. IE: "IS-F returns with TTV6 from LS to fight M3." Makes for a good headline and hype.

I'm just assuming this from a marketing stand-point. But - no one really knows what will happen. But I would put my money on the early years of the 4G IS to have no engine change.
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James
I don’t understand why they take things off of the F Sport. I understand luxuary and all that but I have two F sports because I like how they look better. I still want the luxuary memory seats and 360 camera and all that just with my car looking better. Do other brands do this? I mean if I was getting an M5 I would get the same luxuary as a regular 5 with just a better looking and faster car rt?
Its a few reasons why a car company does what you are saying. Lets take a look at Lexus firstly.

I think the biggest reason is money and its divided into two different view points:
1) Cost cutting. By taking away features from the previous generation (last years) and not giving it to the new generation (early years), they are able to keep the new generations starting price lower. This is why the Lexus ES starting price is relatively almost the same. I haven't looked into it yet but I think they might have cut some features from the previous generation ES that came as standard.
2) Drawing hype for later year models to get more money. This is what they did for almost the whole life cycle of the 3G IS. The 3G IS F-Sport didn't come with much in the early years of the vehicle. However - over time - they trickle down some of the features from the "luxury" or "Non-F-Sport" model to the F-Sport model. This gave people incentives to buy the new F-Sport models.

Its definitely shady Toyota does this but its business at the end of the day.

Other companies that are guilty of this is Acura. They can't get the A-Spec Package and the Advance package together. I'm sure later in the years, more Advance Pack stuff will trickle down into the A-Spec models.

It sucks companies do this because the "Sport package" models do look much better.

GNS
What about the engine?
Engine is trickley. My friend and I did gossip about engine changes in the 4G IS.

There are two boats in this debate. People that think it'll stay the same. And people think they'll overhaul everything.

My friend and I think its gonna stay the same because Toyota has been known to slow and conservative with engine changes. What I think will happen is they'll keep the Turbo 4, the V6 and then add a IS-F or maybe a IS400 with the TTV6. My money will be on the IS-F getting the TTV6 before they develop a IS400.
Toyota seems to be slow with trickling down stuff. The TTV6 is one of the biggest highlights to the LS. I think it'll be fast of a trickle down to drop the TTV6 straight into a standard IS so fast.

I think they'll drop it into a IS-F because it'll be priced higher and it can draw hype for the "return" of the IS-F. IE: "IS-F returns with TTV6 from LS to fight M3." Makes for a good headline and hype.

I'm just assuming this from a marketing stand-point. But - no one really knows what will happen. But I would put my money on the early years of the 4G IS to have no engine change.
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James
I don’t understand why they take things off of the F Sport. I understand luxuary and all that but I have two F sports because I like how they look better. I still want the luxuary memory seats and 360 camera and all that just with my car looking better. Do other brands do this? I mean if I was getting an M5 I would get the same luxuary as a regular 5 with just a better looking and faster car rt?
to artificially limit the price....
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James
I don’t understand why they take things off of the F Sport. I understand luxuary and all that but I have two F sports because I like how they look better. I still want the luxuary memory seats and 360 camera and all that just with my car looking better. Do other brands do this? I mean if I was getting an M5 I would get the same luxuary as a regular 5 with just a better looking and faster car rt?
to artificially limit the price....
mikeavelli
James
I don’t understand why they take things off of the F Sport. I understand luxuary and all that but I have two F sports because I like how they look better. I still want the luxuary memory seats and 360 camera and all that just with my car looking better. Do other brands do this? I mean if I was getting an M5 I would get the same luxuary as a regular 5 with just a better looking and faster car rt?
My frustration as well. F-sport and luxury should not be mutually exclusive..... I just don't even understand how in a 100k car like a LS, I cannot get rear TV's etc in the F-Sport. My kid loves them in the LX. I would love it in the LS. I would be stuck to a non F-Sport...

Just let people pick the luxury pack with F-sport.....

In Canada the GS F has it, the car is completely loaded. Incredible.
mikeavelli
James
I don’t understand why they take things off of the F Sport. I understand luxuary and all that but I have two F sports because I like how they look better. I still want the luxuary memory seats and 360 camera and all that just with my car looking better. Do other brands do this? I mean if I was getting an M5 I would get the same luxuary as a regular 5 with just a better looking and faster car rt?
My frustration as well. F-sport and luxury should not be mutually exclusive..... I just don't even understand how in a 100k car like a LS, I cannot get rear TV's etc in the F-Sport. My kid loves them in the LX. I would love it in the LS. I would be stuck to a non F-Sport...

Just let people pick the luxury pack with F-sport.....

In Canada the GS F has it, the car is completely loaded. Incredible.
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mikeavelli
My frustration as well. F-sport and luxury should not be mutually exclusive..... I just don't even understand how in a 100k car like a LS, I cannot get rear TV's etc in the F-Sport. My kid loves them in the LX. I would love it in the LS. I would be stuck to a non F-Sport...

Just let people pick the luxury pack with F-sport.....

In Canada the GS F has it, the car is completely loaded. Incredible.
Good addition with the Lexus LS.

Toyota does this with the Lexus LS as well. The Luxury LS and F-Sport LS both have different things. I would love to have the "Luxury" features in the LS in the F-Sport. But they refuse to mix them together...
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mikeavelli
My frustration as well. F-sport and luxury should not be mutually exclusive..... I just don't even understand how in a 100k car like a LS, I cannot get rear TV's etc in the F-Sport. My kid loves them in the LX. I would love it in the LS. I would be stuck to a non F-Sport...

Just let people pick the luxury pack with F-sport.....

In Canada the GS F has it, the car is completely loaded. Incredible.
Good addition with the Lexus LS.

Toyota does this with the Lexus LS as well. The Luxury LS and F-Sport LS both have different things. I would love to have the "Luxury" features in the LS in the F-Sport. But they refuse to mix them together...
Ian Schmidt
Some enterprising aftermarket company could probably do good business selling equivalents to the F-Sport parts to attach to the normal trim level LS and ES. You wouldn't get everything in the F-Sport (the trick dash, most notably), but at least you'd have something of a choice.
Ian Schmidt
Some enterprising aftermarket company could probably do good business selling equivalents to the F-Sport parts to attach to the normal trim level LS and ES. You wouldn't get everything in the F-Sport (the trick dash, most notably), but at least you'd have something of a choice.
mikeavelli
Ian Schmidt
Some enterprising aftermarket company could probably do good business selling equivalents to the F-Sport parts to attach to the normal trim level LS and ES. You wouldn't get everything in the F-Sport (the trick dash, most notably), but at least you'd have something of a choice.
I've actually looked into swapping bumpers. But you also miss the Sport plus and suspension and brakes, rear steer option etc....
mikeavelli
Ian Schmidt
Some enterprising aftermarket company could probably do good business selling equivalents to the F-Sport parts to attach to the normal trim level LS and ES. You wouldn't get everything in the F-Sport (the trick dash, most notably), but at least you'd have something of a choice.
I've actually looked into swapping bumpers. But you also miss the Sport plus and suspension and brakes, rear steer option etc....
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mikeavelli
I've actually looked into swapping bumpers. But you also miss the Sport plus and suspension and brakes, rear steer option etc....
Yeah. There's so much else you miss out on besides bumpers. I really find it annoying that Lexus splits the two apart. In my opinion, the F-Sport just looks so much better majority of time.

Side note: I just realized you are Mike F from Vossen. Holy crap. Lol. Huge fan of the Wheels and saw you in some Vossen videos before.
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mikeavelli
I've actually looked into swapping bumpers. But you also miss the Sport plus and suspension and brakes, rear steer option etc....
Yeah. There's so much else you miss out on besides bumpers. I really find it annoying that Lexus splits the two apart. In my opinion, the F-Sport just looks so much better majority of time.

Side note: I just realized you are Mike F from Vossen. Holy crap. Lol. Huge fan of the Wheels and saw you in some Vossen videos before.
mikeavelli
Sakura
Yeah. There's so much else you miss out on besides bumpers. I really find it annoying that Lexus splits the two apart. In my opinion, the F-Sport just looks so much better majority of time.

Side note: I just realized you are Mike F from Vossen. Holy crap. Lol. Huge fan of the Wheels and saw you in some Vossen videos before.
Thanks Sakura, I appreciate that.
mikeavelli
Sakura
Yeah. There's so much else you miss out on besides bumpers. I really find it annoying that Lexus splits the two apart. In my opinion, the F-Sport just looks so much better majority of time.

Side note: I just realized you are Mike F from Vossen. Holy crap. Lol. Huge fan of the Wheels and saw you in some Vossen videos before.
Thanks Sakura, I appreciate that.
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    CT2IS
  • October 1, 2018
No way Lexus is keeping the current 8AR-FTS and current V6 for the 4IS. These engines are extremely underwhelming even as of 2016. The 4IS would fall flat on its face at launch.

My take is Lexus will launch with a new redesigned turbo 4 (or at least HIGHLY revised--there's some strong deliberate de-tuning in the current one) and a scaled down/detuned TT V6 (probably through software) from the LS to push out around 330 hp.

The 4IS will have to lose at least 150-200 lbs to be successful.
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    CT2IS
  • October 1, 2018
No way Lexus is keeping the current 8AR-FTS and current V6 for the 4IS. These engines are extremely underwhelming even as of 2016. The 4IS would fall flat on its face at launch.

My take is Lexus will launch with a new redesigned turbo 4 (or at least HIGHLY revised--there's some strong deliberate de-tuning in the current one) and a scaled down/detuned TT V6 (probably through software) from the LS to push out around 330 hp.

The 4IS will have to lose at least 150-200 lbs to be successful.

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