Next-Generation Lexus IS Sedan to be Offered with BMW Inline-Six Turbo Engine?

Posted by Kevin on February 18th, 2019

Best Car Magazine in Japan is reporting that the next-generation Lexus IS sedan will be offered with the same BMW Inline-6 turbo engine that powers the all-new Toyota Supra.

The I6 engine, which is rated at 335 horsepower and 365 lb-ft of torque in the Supra, would be one of four engines for the Lexus sedan — a 2.0L turbo, 2.4L turbo, and 2.5L hybrid engine would also be available based on region.

Lexus IS Next-Generation Rear

Best Car also reports that the IS is unlikely to change in size, and will weigh approximately 3,395 lbs. For referenece, the current IS tips the scales at 3,737 lbs.

(Finally, the magazine reiterates the rumor that a next-generation IS F sedan will be resurrected with the twin-turbo V6 engine from the LS flagship.)

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I cannot wait to see the same multi stage hybrid system (8GR-FXS) in the LC, in the 4IS!! It will blow the competition away. The economy achiveable and the power without the high tax (company) will be a huge hit. IMHO the 4IS is going to be a more important product over the LS, LC and ES. RWD/AWD with more displacement choices, more attractive hybrid power trains, more luxury and sport appeal, more capable car overall and with a much bigger market then models already mentioned, could potentially seriously draw in much, much more customers!
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I cannot wait to see the same multi stage hybrid system (8GR-FXS) in the LC, in the 4IS!! It will blow the competition away. The economy achiveable and the power without the high tax (company) will be a huge hit. IMHO the 4IS is going to be a more important product over the LS, LC and ES. RWD/AWD with more displacement choices, more attractive hybrid power trains, more luxury and sport appeal, more capable car overall and with a much bigger market then models already mentioned, could potentially seriously draw in much, much more customers!
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I cannot wait to see the same multi stage hybrid system (8GR-FXS) in the LC, in the 4IS!! It will blow the competition away. The economy achiveable and the power without the high tax (company) will be a huge hit. IMHO the 4IS is going to be a more important product over the LS, LC and ES. RWD/AWD with more displacement choices, more attractive hybrid power trains, more luxury and sport appeal, more capable car overall and with a much bigger market then models already mentioned, could potentially seriously draw in much, much more customers!
Will it be using GA-L platform from current LS / LC?
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LexiF
I cannot wait to see the same multi stage hybrid system (8GR-FXS) in the LC, in the 4IS!! It will blow the competition away. The economy achiveable and the power without the high tax (company) will be a huge hit. IMHO the 4IS is going to be a more important product over the LS, LC and ES. RWD/AWD with more displacement choices, more attractive hybrid power trains, more luxury and sport appeal, more capable car overall and with a much bigger market then models already mentioned, could potentially seriously draw in much, much more customers!
Will it be using GA-L platform from current LS / LC?
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sl0519
Will it be using GA-L platform from current LS / LC?
Sorry I don’t know
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sl0519
Will it be using GA-L platform from current LS / LC?
Sorry I don’t know
Joaquin Ruhi
sl0519
Will it be using GA-L platform from current LS / LC?
Probably, unless it uses the closely-related GA-N from the latest Toyota Crown.
Joaquin Ruhi
sl0519
Will it be using GA-L platform from current LS / LC?
Probably, unless it uses the closely-related GA-N from the latest Toyota Crown.
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Joaquin Ruhi
Probably, unless it uses the closely-related GA-N from the latest Toyota Crown.
Somebody went to the wiki page and edited it on Aug 26th to show the 2019 IS using the TNGA-L platform. Is this accurate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toyota_New_Global_Architecture
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Joaquin Ruhi
Probably, unless it uses the closely-related GA-N from the latest Toyota Crown.
Somebody went to the wiki page and edited it on Aug 26th to show the 2019 IS using the TNGA-L platform. Is this accurate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toyota_New_Global_Architecture
Joaquin Ruhi
GNS
Somebody went to the wiki page and edited it on Aug 26th to show the 2019 IS using the TNGA-L platform. Is this accurate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toyota_New_Global_Architecture
Depends on who did the Wikipedia editing. If it's a knowledgeable insider such as Carmaker1 or a Lexus insider, then, yes, I'd say it's credible. Also, those dates on the Wikipedia article are calendar year, NOT model year. Thus, by 2019 they mean calendar year (2020 model year).

On the other hand, the most recent information posted by @Carmaker1 on these forums suggests that the 4th-gen IS will enter production in July 2020 as a 2021 model year vehicle.
Joaquin Ruhi
GNS
Somebody went to the wiki page and edited it on Aug 26th to show the 2019 IS using the TNGA-L platform. Is this accurate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toyota_New_Global_Architecture
Depends on who did the Wikipedia editing. If it's a knowledgeable insider such as Carmaker1 or a Lexus insider, then, yes, I'd say it's credible. Also, those dates on the Wikipedia article are calendar year, NOT model year. Thus, by 2019 they mean calendar year (2020 model year).

On the other hand, the most recent information posted by @Carmaker1 on these forums suggests that the 4th-gen IS will enter production in July 2020 as a 2021 model year vehicle.
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Joaquin Ruhi
Depends on who did the Wikipedia editing. If it's a knowledgeable insider such as Carmaker1 or a Lexus insider, then, yes, I'd say it's credible. Also, those dates on the Wikipedia article are calendar year, NOT model year. Thus, by 2019 they mean calendar year (2020 model year).

On the other hand, the most recent information posted by @Carmaker1 suggests that the 4th-gen IS will enter production in July 2020 as a 2021 model year vehicle.
Right... I missed the fact that it's calendar year. So we'll likely see the 4th gen appear in dealerships towards the end of 2020, or 1Q 2021. Can't wait... I'm full of anticipation for that TTV6, new platform, and hopefully an updated transmission instead of the 6 speed that is currently in all Canadian AWD models.
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Joaquin Ruhi
Depends on who did the Wikipedia editing. If it's a knowledgeable insider such as Carmaker1 or a Lexus insider, then, yes, I'd say it's credible. Also, those dates on the Wikipedia article are calendar year, NOT model year. Thus, by 2019 they mean calendar year (2020 model year).

On the other hand, the most recent information posted by @Carmaker1 suggests that the 4th-gen IS will enter production in July 2020 as a 2021 model year vehicle.
Right... I missed the fact that it's calendar year. So we'll likely see the 4th gen appear in dealerships towards the end of 2020, or 1Q 2021. Can't wait... I'm full of anticipation for that TTV6, new platform, and hopefully an updated transmission instead of the 6 speed that is currently in all Canadian AWD models.
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I am hoping Carmaker1 is correct in that two hybrid versions are going to be offered for the next gen IS. I definitely will not want to finance a new car that isn't a hybrid, PHEV or BEV.

Of course if I go used, then I won't mind a pure ICEV as I've already saved enough on depreciation alone.
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I am hoping Carmaker1 is correct in that two hybrid versions are going to be offered for the next gen IS. I definitely will not want to finance a new car that isn't a hybrid, PHEV or BEV.

Of course if I go used, then I won't mind a pure ICEV as I've already saved enough on depreciation alone.
Carmaker1
GNS
Somebody went to the wiki page and edited it on Aug 26th to show the 2019 IS using the TNGA-L platform. Is this accurate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toyota_New_Global_Architecture
No, it is hearsay really and was removed accordingly. Sorry

Joaquin Ruhi
Depends on who did the Wikipedia editing. If it's a knowledgeable insider such as Carmaker1 or a Lexus insider, then, yes, I'd say it's credible. Also, those dates on the Wikipedia article are calendar year, NOT model year. Thus, by 2019 they mean calendar year (2020 model year).

On the other hand, the most recent information posted by @Carmaker1 on these forums suggests that the 4th-gen IS will enter production in July 2020 as a 2021 model year vehicle.
Yes, I would ignore that. That's an unregistered user, whose edit has been removed since. Wikipedia is a war zone, but I won't get into that.
Carmaker1
GNS
Somebody went to the wiki page and edited it on Aug 26th to show the 2019 IS using the TNGA-L platform. Is this accurate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toyota_New_Global_Architecture
No, it is hearsay really and was removed accordingly. Sorry

Joaquin Ruhi
Depends on who did the Wikipedia editing. If it's a knowledgeable insider such as Carmaker1 or a Lexus insider, then, yes, I'd say it's credible. Also, those dates on the Wikipedia article are calendar year, NOT model year. Thus, by 2019 they mean calendar year (2020 model year).

On the other hand, the most recent information posted by @Carmaker1 on these forums suggests that the 4th-gen IS will enter production in July 2020 as a 2021 model year vehicle.
Yes, I would ignore that. That's an unregistered user, whose edit has been removed since. Wikipedia is a war zone, but I won't get into that.
Carmaker1
Anyway, I have something to share and will post more on this later today.


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Anyway, I have something to share and will post more on this later today.


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Carmaker1
Anyway, I have something to share and will post more on this later today.


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This looks like a current GS with new LS having a baby...
Is this as close as we can get? or just an imagination?
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Carmaker1
Anyway, I have something to share and will post more on this later today.


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This looks like a current GS with new LS having a baby...
Is this as close as we can get? or just an imagination?
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sl0519
This looks like a current GS with new LS having a baby...
Is this as close as we can get? or just an imagination?
Is the Nike swoosh still there? Not a deal breaker...but I never liked it.
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sl0519
This looks like a current GS with new LS having a baby...
Is this as close as we can get? or just an imagination?
Is the Nike swoosh still there? Not a deal breaker...but I never liked it.
Joaquin Ruhi
Color me skeptical about that rendering. I don't see the 4IS's greenhouse having a third side window between the C and D pillars (unless the IS grows to Crown and what would've been 5GS size). I don't expect 4IS to have such separate "Nike swoosh" daytime running lights as the current 3IS when other newer models (LC, 5LS, 7ES, UX, even RC facelift) have been moving the DRLs and main headlights closer together, or even as a single unit. Finally, that broad horizontal bar in the spindle grille bisected by the "circle L" logo reminds me too much of the latest Toyota RAV4. It certainly doesn't belong in a Lexus car.
Joaquin Ruhi
Color me skeptical about that rendering. I don't see the 4IS's greenhouse having a third side window between the C and D pillars (unless the IS grows to Crown and what would've been 5GS size). I don't expect 4IS to have such separate "Nike swoosh" daytime running lights as the current 3IS when other newer models (LC, 5LS, 7ES, UX, even RC facelift) have been moving the DRLs and main headlights closer together, or even as a single unit. Finally, that broad horizontal bar in the spindle grille bisected by the "circle L" logo reminds me too much of the latest Toyota RAV4. It certainly doesn't belong in a Lexus car.
Joaquin Ruhi
GNS
Is the Nike swoosh still there? Not a deal breaker...but I never liked it.
Yes, looking too much like the current 3IS and even running down the side to the front fender.
Joaquin Ruhi
GNS
Is the Nike swoosh still there? Not a deal breaker...but I never liked it.
Yes, looking too much like the current 3IS and even running down the side to the front fender.
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Joaquin Ruhi
Color me skeptical about that rendering. I don't see the 4IS's greenhouse having a third side window between the C and D pillars (unless the IS grows to Crown and what would've been 5GS size). I don't expect 4IS to have such separate "Nike swoosh" daytime running lights as the current 3IS when other newer models (LC, 5LS, 7ES, UX, even RC facelift) have been moving the DRLs and main headlights closer together, or even as a single unit. Finally, that broad horizontal bar in the spindle grille bisected by the "circle L" logo reminds me too much of the latest Toyota RAV4. It certainly doesn't belong in a Lexus car.
I agree, this rendering/sketch certainly looks like they took a 4GS body and grafted elements onto it. At this point in time, I believe the most accurate representation we have so far is the Mag-X sketch.

I partially agree with those horizontal bars, however Lexus has received a lot of mixed feedback about the styling of the refreshed 3IS. Those horizontal bars at the corners would greatly help reduce the visual impact of the vast gaping expanses the refreshed bumper has until the full redesign comes.

Also I fully agree with Carmaker1 that Wikipedia is a warzone and truly a lot of information from Wikipedia cannot be trusted, simply due to the nature of what Wikipedia is.
CIF
  • CIF
    CIF
  • September 23, 2018
Joaquin Ruhi
Color me skeptical about that rendering. I don't see the 4IS's greenhouse having a third side window between the C and D pillars (unless the IS grows to Crown and what would've been 5GS size). I don't expect 4IS to have such separate "Nike swoosh" daytime running lights as the current 3IS when other newer models (LC, 5LS, 7ES, UX, even RC facelift) have been moving the DRLs and main headlights closer together, or even as a single unit. Finally, that broad horizontal bar in the spindle grille bisected by the "circle L" logo reminds me too much of the latest Toyota RAV4. It certainly doesn't belong in a Lexus car.
I agree, this rendering/sketch certainly looks like they took a 4GS body and grafted elements onto it. At this point in time, I believe the most accurate representation we have so far is the Mag-X sketch.

I partially agree with those horizontal bars, however Lexus has received a lot of mixed feedback about the styling of the refreshed 3IS. Those horizontal bars at the corners would greatly help reduce the visual impact of the vast gaping expanses the refreshed bumper has until the full redesign comes.

Also I fully agree with Carmaker1 that Wikipedia is a warzone and truly a lot of information from Wikipedia cannot be trusted, simply due to the nature of what Wikipedia is.

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