Lexus August 2018 Sales Report

Posted by Kevin on September 4th, 2018

USA

Lexus USA has reported 28,622 total sales for August 2018, a 7.1% decrease over last year — here’s the model-by-model breakdown:

MONTH Year to Date (*DSR)
2018 2017 % CHG* 2018 2017 % CHG*
CT 0 204 -100 4 4,572 -99.9
IS 2,231 2,445 -8.8 15,595 17,216 -9.9
RC 327 665 -50.8 2,335 4,286 -45.8
ES 4,686 6,404 -26.8 29,138 34,845 -16.8
GS 549 689 -20.3 4,707 4,894 -4.3
LS 923 413 123.5 6,004 2,670 123.8
LC 210 291 -28 1,392 1449 -4
LFA 0 0 0 2 1 99
Total Cars 8,926 11,111 -19.7 59,177 69,933 -15.8
NX 5,644 5,517 2.3 38,969 36,946 5.0
RX 10,875 10,391 4.7 70,706 66,760 5.4
GX 2,773 3336 -16.9 16,817 16,308 2.6
LX 404 446 -9.4 3,356 3,516 -5.0
Total Trucks 19,696 19,690 0.0 129,848 123,530 4.6
Total Sales 28,622 30,801 -7.1 189,025 193,463 -2.8

Please note, all percentages are calculated by the Daily Sales Rate (DSR), which takes into account the number of days in the month that dealerships could sell cars. August 2018 had 27 selling days, August 2017 had 27 selling days.

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Gecko
Another interesting thing I didn't notice before:
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The engine before the A25A-FKS and the one after it look identical - just like the two V8s look identical. So if they're going to be derivatives of the same block/basic design, that leads me to believe the engine between the V35A-FTS and A25A-FKS will indeed be a four cylinder (which just confirms the rumors, basically).

Could it be that the engine between the 2.0L M20A-FKS and 2.5L A25A-FKS is a new 2.0L turbo I4, and the engine between the A25A-FKS and the V35A-FTS is a 2.5L turbo I4? Does anyone know how the arrangement on this chart is determined - is it by displacement or power? It seems to be displacement, which means that the rumored 2.4L turbo I4 could also be the engine between the A25A-FKS and M20A-FKS, which puts us back to wondering what the engine is between A25A-FKS and V35A-FTS.

My assumption is those two new engines are a new 2.0L turbo I4 (between M20A and A25A) and a new 2.5L turbo I4 (between A25A and V35A).
Gecko
Another interesting thing I didn't notice before:
[​IMG]

The engine before the A25A-FKS and the one after it look identical - just like the two V8s look identical. So if they're going to be derivatives of the same block/basic design, that leads me to believe the engine between the V35A-FTS and A25A-FKS will indeed be a four cylinder (which just confirms the rumors, basically).

Could it be that the engine between the 2.0L M20A-FKS and 2.5L A25A-FKS is a new 2.0L turbo I4, and the engine between the A25A-FKS and the V35A-FTS is a 2.5L turbo I4? Does anyone know how the arrangement on this chart is determined - is it by displacement or power? It seems to be displacement, which means that the rumored 2.4L turbo I4 could also be the engine between the A25A-FKS and M20A-FKS, which puts us back to wondering what the engine is between A25A-FKS and V35A-FTS.

My assumption is those two new engines are a new 2.0L turbo I4 (between M20A and A25A) and a new 2.5L turbo I4 (between A25A and V35A).
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Gecko
Another interesting thing I didn't notice before:
[​IMG]

The engine before the A25A-FKS and the one after it look identical - just like the two V8s look identical. So if they're going to be derivatives of the same block/basic design, that leads me to believe the engine between the V35A-FTS and A25A-FKS will indeed be a four cylinder (which just confirms the rumors, basically).

Could it be that the engine between the 2.0L M20A-FKS and 2.5L A25A-FKS is a new 2.0L turbo I4, and the engine between the A25A-FKS and the V35A-FTS is a 2.5L turbo I4? Does anyone know how the arrangement on this chart is determined - is it by displacement or power? It seems to be displacement, which means that the rumored 2.4L turbo I4 could also be the engine between the A25A-FKS and M20A-FKS, which puts us back to wondering what the engine is between A25A-FKS and V35A-FTS.

My assumption is those two new engines are a new 2.0L turbo I4 (between M20A and A25A) and a new 2.5L turbo I4 (between A25A and V35A).
I believe the arrangement is by displacement. I read that the V35A-FTS is going in the Land Cruiser. If it is going in the Land Cruiser, that doesn't necessarily mean it is going in the Tundra, Sequoia and LX, does it? I can't imagine having a twin turbo V6 as the only engine option in those vehicles...

Also, I believe the images are just stock images that do not represent what the engines themselves will look like.
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Gecko
Another interesting thing I didn't notice before:
[​IMG]

The engine before the A25A-FKS and the one after it look identical - just like the two V8s look identical. So if they're going to be derivatives of the same block/basic design, that leads me to believe the engine between the V35A-FTS and A25A-FKS will indeed be a four cylinder (which just confirms the rumors, basically).

Could it be that the engine between the 2.0L M20A-FKS and 2.5L A25A-FKS is a new 2.0L turbo I4, and the engine between the A25A-FKS and the V35A-FTS is a 2.5L turbo I4? Does anyone know how the arrangement on this chart is determined - is it by displacement or power? It seems to be displacement, which means that the rumored 2.4L turbo I4 could also be the engine between the A25A-FKS and M20A-FKS, which puts us back to wondering what the engine is between A25A-FKS and V35A-FTS.

My assumption is those two new engines are a new 2.0L turbo I4 (between M20A and A25A) and a new 2.5L turbo I4 (between A25A and V35A).
I believe the arrangement is by displacement. I read that the V35A-FTS is going in the Land Cruiser. If it is going in the Land Cruiser, that doesn't necessarily mean it is going in the Tundra, Sequoia and LX, does it? I can't imagine having a twin turbo V6 as the only engine option in those vehicles...

Also, I believe the images are just stock images that do not represent what the engines themselves will look like.
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Gecko
Another interesting thing I didn't notice before:
[​IMG]

The engine before the A25A-FKS and the one after it look identical - just like the two V8s look identical. So if they're going to be derivatives of the same block/basic design, that leads me to believe the engine between the V35A-FTS and A25A-FKS will indeed be a four cylinder (which just confirms the rumors, basically).

Could it be that the engine between the 2.0L M20A-FKS and 2.5L A25A-FKS is a new 2.0L turbo I4, and the engine between the A25A-FKS and the V35A-FTS is a 2.5L turbo I4? Does anyone know how the arrangement on this chart is determined - is it by displacement or power? It seems to be displacement, which means that the rumored 2.4L turbo I4 could also be the engine between the A25A-FKS and M20A-FKS, which puts us back to wondering what the engine is between A25A-FKS and V35A-FTS.

My assumption is those two new engines are a new 2.0L turbo I4 (between M20A and A25A) and a new 2.5L turbo I4 (between A25A and V35A).
I believe the arrangement is by displacement. I read that the V35A-FTS is going in the Land Cruiser. If it is going in the Land Cruiser, that doesn't necessarily mean it is going in the Tundra, Sequoia and LX, does it? I can't imagine having a twin turbo V6 as the only engine option in those vehicles...

Also, I believe the images are just stock images that do not represent what the engines themselves will look like.
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carguy420
Won't a 1.6l turbo end up easily exceeding the performance of the 2.0l NA? Unless it runs low boost pressure.

Also what DF engine will succeed Toyota's 1.5l NA?
1.5l NR engine with ESTEC was introduced last year only, it is here to stay.

Same as with 1.2t vs 1.5l NA engine, it is fine that it will make more hp. It is meant for different application and turbo engines are much more expensive.
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carguy420
Won't a 1.6l turbo end up easily exceeding the performance of the 2.0l NA? Unless it runs low boost pressure.

Also what DF engine will succeed Toyota's 1.5l NA?
1.5l NR engine with ESTEC was introduced last year only, it is here to stay.

Same as with 1.2t vs 1.5l NA engine, it is fine that it will make more hp. It is meant for different application and turbo engines are much more expensive.
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carguy420
Won't a 1.6l turbo end up easily exceeding the performance of the 2.0l NA? Unless it runs low boost pressure.

Also what DF engine will succeed Toyota's 1.5l NA?
1.5l NR engine with ESTEC was introduced last year only, it is here to stay.

Same as with 1.2t vs 1.5l NA engine, it is fine that it will make more hp. It is meant for different application and turbo engines are much more expensive.
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ssun30
What else could be done to the 8NR though? The calibration engineers don't like it because the efficiency and torque just don't match the benchmark. The mechanical team doesn't like it because the cylinders are just too small to work with. But it ended up being one of the most important engines in their entire lineup (in China it was what made the Corolla the king of the compacts). That engine really needs a power bump to at least 100kW and over 200N.m, all the while not losing any efficiency.
Small changes to output, responsiveness and efficiency are always possible for turbo engines, and were often done for Toyota turbo diesels.

For significantly bigger output, i expect that 1.6l turbo... depending on the market of course.
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ssun30
What else could be done to the 8NR though? The calibration engineers don't like it because the efficiency and torque just don't match the benchmark. The mechanical team doesn't like it because the cylinders are just too small to work with. But it ended up being one of the most important engines in their entire lineup (in China it was what made the Corolla the king of the compacts). That engine really needs a power bump to at least 100kW and over 200N.m, all the while not losing any efficiency.
Small changes to output, responsiveness and efficiency are always possible for turbo engines, and were often done for Toyota turbo diesels.

For significantly bigger output, i expect that 1.6l turbo... depending on the market of course.
S
ssun30
What else could be done to the 8NR though? The calibration engineers don't like it because the efficiency and torque just don't match the benchmark. The mechanical team doesn't like it because the cylinders are just too small to work with. But it ended up being one of the most important engines in their entire lineup (in China it was what made the Corolla the king of the compacts). That engine really needs a power bump to at least 100kW and over 200N.m, all the while not losing any efficiency.
Small changes to output, responsiveness and efficiency are always possible for turbo engines, and were often done for Toyota turbo diesels.

For significantly bigger output, i expect that 1.6l turbo... depending on the market of course.
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spwolf

here is the list of "new" powertrains. Keep in mind - 9 new engines and 17 variations. What we know is that there will be V8TT for F models, then 2.4 or 2.5l turbo for GR replacement (non us?) and that is about it... Missing from the list:
- One V8 engine - between 420hp of V6tt and 620hp of V8tt
- 2.4/2.5l turbo replacement for GR
- between 2.5l and 2.0l engine - 1.6 turbo?
- 2 smaller than 2.0l engines.

- hybrid between 215hp 4cly and V6
- small hybrid - replacement for 1.5l

Powertrains that are just updated are not on that list.
But they will most likely release updated engines that aren't on the list, correct?
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spwolf

here is the list of "new" powertrains. Keep in mind - 9 new engines and 17 variations. What we know is that there will be V8TT for F models, then 2.4 or 2.5l turbo for GR replacement (non us?) and that is about it... Missing from the list:
- One V8 engine - between 420hp of V6tt and 620hp of V8tt
- 2.4/2.5l turbo replacement for GR
- between 2.5l and 2.0l engine - 1.6 turbo?
- 2 smaller than 2.0l engines.

- hybrid between 215hp 4cly and V6
- small hybrid - replacement for 1.5l

Powertrains that are just updated are not on that list.
But they will most likely release updated engines that aren't on the list, correct?
M
spwolf

here is the list of "new" powertrains. Keep in mind - 9 new engines and 17 variations. What we know is that there will be V8TT for F models, then 2.4 or 2.5l turbo for GR replacement (non us?) and that is about it... Missing from the list:
- One V8 engine - between 420hp of V6tt and 620hp of V8tt
- 2.4/2.5l turbo replacement for GR
- between 2.5l and 2.0l engine - 1.6 turbo?
- 2 smaller than 2.0l engines.

- hybrid between 215hp 4cly and V6
- small hybrid - replacement for 1.5l

Powertrains that are just updated are not on that list.
But they will most likely release updated engines that aren't on the list, correct?
S
MOBLIN
But they will most likely release updated engines that aren't on the list, correct?
Updated engines list so far:
- 1.0 3cly updated this year in Aygo MMC
- 1.5l ESTEC new engine last year in Yaris MMC
- 1.2t updated this year in Auris FMC
- 2.0t ?
- 3.5l GR ?

Keep in mind that the whole point of new powertrains is less different engines, more production efficiency and transferring those savings into more expensive engines going into the smaller vehicles.

For instance old Corolla 1.8l vs new Corolla 2.0l - both engine and cvt should be considerably more expensive to produce compared to the ones they replaced yet price of the vehicle did not increase accordingly.
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MOBLIN
But they will most likely release updated engines that aren't on the list, correct?
Updated engines list so far:
- 1.0 3cly updated this year in Aygo MMC
- 1.5l ESTEC new engine last year in Yaris MMC
- 1.2t updated this year in Auris FMC
- 2.0t ?
- 3.5l GR ?

Keep in mind that the whole point of new powertrains is less different engines, more production efficiency and transferring those savings into more expensive engines going into the smaller vehicles.

For instance old Corolla 1.8l vs new Corolla 2.0l - both engine and cvt should be considerably more expensive to produce compared to the ones they replaced yet price of the vehicle did not increase accordingly.
S
MOBLIN
But they will most likely release updated engines that aren't on the list, correct?
Updated engines list so far:
- 1.0 3cly updated this year in Aygo MMC
- 1.5l ESTEC new engine last year in Yaris MMC
- 1.2t updated this year in Auris FMC
- 2.0t ?
- 3.5l GR ?

Keep in mind that the whole point of new powertrains is less different engines, more production efficiency and transferring those savings into more expensive engines going into the smaller vehicles.

For instance old Corolla 1.8l vs new Corolla 2.0l - both engine and cvt should be considerably more expensive to produce compared to the ones they replaced yet price of the vehicle did not increase accordingly.
M
spwolf
Updated engines list so far:
- 1.0 3cly updated this year in Aygo MMC
- 1.5l ESTEC new engine last year in Yaris MMC
- 1.2t updated this year in Auris FMC
- 2.0t ?
- 3.5l GR ?

Keep in mind that the whole point of new powertrains is less different engines, more production efficiency and transferring those savings into more expensive engines going into the smaller vehicles.

For instance old Corolla 1.8l vs new Corolla 2.0l - both engine and cvt should be considerably more expensive to produce compared to the ones they replaced yet price of the vehicle did not increase accordingly.
Right. Honestly, I am just super nervous about what their V8 plans are. I don't care about having the most ponies or pound feet, I just want something reliable. I love the 3UR-FE and am hoping they can improve on that without the need for forced induction.
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spwolf
Updated engines list so far:
- 1.0 3cly updated this year in Aygo MMC
- 1.5l ESTEC new engine last year in Yaris MMC
- 1.2t updated this year in Auris FMC
- 2.0t ?
- 3.5l GR ?

Keep in mind that the whole point of new powertrains is less different engines, more production efficiency and transferring those savings into more expensive engines going into the smaller vehicles.

For instance old Corolla 1.8l vs new Corolla 2.0l - both engine and cvt should be considerably more expensive to produce compared to the ones they replaced yet price of the vehicle did not increase accordingly.
Right. Honestly, I am just super nervous about what their V8 plans are. I don't care about having the most ponies or pound feet, I just want something reliable. I love the 3UR-FE and am hoping they can improve on that without the need for forced induction.
M
spwolf
Updated engines list so far:
- 1.0 3cly updated this year in Aygo MMC
- 1.5l ESTEC new engine last year in Yaris MMC
- 1.2t updated this year in Auris FMC
- 2.0t ?
- 3.5l GR ?

Keep in mind that the whole point of new powertrains is less different engines, more production efficiency and transferring those savings into more expensive engines going into the smaller vehicles.

For instance old Corolla 1.8l vs new Corolla 2.0l - both engine and cvt should be considerably more expensive to produce compared to the ones they replaced yet price of the vehicle did not increase accordingly.
Right. Honestly, I am just super nervous about what their V8 plans are. I don't care about having the most ponies or pound feet, I just want something reliable. I love the 3UR-FE and am hoping they can improve on that without the need for forced induction.
C
spwolf
Small changes to output, responsiveness and efficiency are always possible for turbo engines, and were often done for Toyota turbo diesels.

For significantly bigger output, i expect that 1.6l turbo... depending on the market of course.
I would like to have that 1.6l turbo. Probably around 180 hp?
C
spwolf
Small changes to output, responsiveness and efficiency are always possible for turbo engines, and were often done for Toyota turbo diesels.

For significantly bigger output, i expect that 1.6l turbo... depending on the market of course.
I would like to have that 1.6l turbo. Probably around 180 hp?
C
spwolf
Small changes to output, responsiveness and efficiency are always possible for turbo engines, and were often done for Toyota turbo diesels.

For significantly bigger output, i expect that 1.6l turbo... depending on the market of course.
I would like to have that 1.6l turbo. Probably around 180 hp?
S
carguy420
I would like to have that 1.6l turbo. Probably around 180 hp?
It will probably be an I3. Think twice.
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carguy420
I would like to have that 1.6l turbo. Probably around 180 hp?
It will probably be an I3. Think twice.
S
carguy420
I would like to have that 1.6l turbo. Probably around 180 hp?
It will probably be an I3. Think twice.
C
ssun30
It will probably be an I3. Think twice.
Seriously a 3 cylinder? It's gonna need a balance shaft. So over 200 hp?
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ssun30
It will probably be an I3. Think twice.
Seriously a 3 cylinder? It's gonna need a balance shaft. So over 200 hp?
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ssun30
It will probably be an I3. Think twice.
Seriously a 3 cylinder? It's gonna need a balance shaft. So over 200 hp?
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ssun30
It will probably be an I3. Think twice.
it will be interesting to see what it becomes of it. 1.6l 3cl 220-240hp seems unreal compared to their other powertrains.

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