Lexus August 2018 Sales Report

Posted by Kevin on September 4th, 2018

USA

Lexus USA has reported 28,622 total sales for August 2018, a 7.1% decrease over last year — here’s the model-by-model breakdown:

MONTH Year to Date (*DSR)
2018 2017 % CHG* 2018 2017 % CHG*
CT 0 204 -100 4 4,572 -99.9
IS 2,231 2,445 -8.8 15,595 17,216 -9.9
RC 327 665 -50.8 2,335 4,286 -45.8
ES 4,686 6,404 -26.8 29,138 34,845 -16.8
GS 549 689 -20.3 4,707 4,894 -4.3
LS 923 413 123.5 6,004 2,670 123.8
LC 210 291 -28 1,392 1449 -4
LFA 0 0 0 2 1 99
Total Cars 8,926 11,111 -19.7 59,177 69,933 -15.8
NX 5,644 5,517 2.3 38,969 36,946 5.0
RX 10,875 10,391 4.7 70,706 66,760 5.4
GX 2,773 3336 -16.9 16,817 16,308 2.6
LX 404 446 -9.4 3,356 3,516 -5.0
Total Trucks 19,696 19,690 0.0 129,848 123,530 4.6
Total Sales 28,622 30,801 -7.1 189,025 193,463 -2.8

Please note, all percentages are calculated by the Daily Sales Rate (DSR), which takes into account the number of days in the month that dealerships could sell cars. August 2018 had 27 selling days, August 2017 had 27 selling days.

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Gecko
TheNerdyPotato
It's technically not a DF engine. The new V6 is the 2GR-FKS, which is an updated version of the 2GR-FE/FSE found in older Toyota/Lexus vehicles. As I understand, it is largely based off of the 1MZ that dates back to 1994 models, which in turn is very similar to the olde VZ series.

The 2 engines that I know for sure are DF family engines are the A25A 2.5l 4cyl found in the 2018 Camry and the M20A which will be in the 2019 Corolla hatchback and the new Lexus UX. I believe that the V35A is also a member of the DF family, both in turbo and hybrid forms, but I'm not 100% as it's after 2am and I just got off of an overtime shift.

edit: Assuming the V35A 3.5l V6 is a DF engine. It seems like it's an all-new design that's not directly based off of the past engines.
I was fairly certain that GR V6 was an all-new design? I think UR V8 was based loosely on UZ V8, but I thought GR was all-new.

V35A-FTS is a Dynamic Force engine, but the V6 Hybrid is not - it still uses the GR V6 as the ICE.
Gecko
TheNerdyPotato
It's technically not a DF engine. The new V6 is the 2GR-FKS, which is an updated version of the 2GR-FE/FSE found in older Toyota/Lexus vehicles. As I understand, it is largely based off of the 1MZ that dates back to 1994 models, which in turn is very similar to the olde VZ series.

The 2 engines that I know for sure are DF family engines are the A25A 2.5l 4cyl found in the 2018 Camry and the M20A which will be in the 2019 Corolla hatchback and the new Lexus UX. I believe that the V35A is also a member of the DF family, both in turbo and hybrid forms, but I'm not 100% as it's after 2am and I just got off of an overtime shift.

edit: Assuming the V35A 3.5l V6 is a DF engine. It seems like it's an all-new design that's not directly based off of the past engines.
I was fairly certain that GR V6 was an all-new design? I think UR V8 was based loosely on UZ V8, but I thought GR was all-new.

V35A-FTS is a Dynamic Force engine, but the V6 Hybrid is not - it still uses the GR V6 as the ICE.
Joaquin Ruhi
Gecko
I was fairly certain that GR V6 was an all-new design? I think UR V8 was based loosely on UZ V8, but I thought GR was all-new.
I agree. I, too, am under the impression that the GR V6 was an all-new, clean-sheet-of-paper design.

I believe that the smallest of the 6 yet-to-be-released Dynamic Force engines is a 3-cylinder unit.
Joaquin Ruhi
Gecko
I was fairly certain that GR V6 was an all-new design? I think UR V8 was based loosely on UZ V8, but I thought GR was all-new.
I agree. I, too, am under the impression that the GR V6 was an all-new, clean-sheet-of-paper design.

I believe that the smallest of the 6 yet-to-be-released Dynamic Force engines is a 3-cylinder unit.
Joaquin Ruhi
Gecko
I was fairly certain that GR V6 was an all-new design? I think UR V8 was based loosely on UZ V8, but I thought GR was all-new.
I agree. I, too, am under the impression that the GR V6 was an all-new, clean-sheet-of-paper design.

I believe that the smallest of the 6 yet-to-be-released Dynamic Force engines is a 3-cylinder unit.
S
Joaquin Ruhi
I agree. I, too, am under the impression that the GR V6 was an all-new, clean-sheet-of-paper design.

I believe that the smallest of the 6 yet-to-be-released Dynamic Force engines is a 3-cylinder unit.
who knows, because Toyota has introduced improved 1.0l 3cl already this year with new Aygo... and they also introduced new 1.5l ESTEC engine in last years Yaris. These are not counted here.

1.2t will be likely optimized further this year, but it wont be on the chart.

So who knows what are these 2 smaller ones? One is at least between 1.2l 112hp turbo and 2.0l 16hp NA engine... 1.6l turbo?
S
Joaquin Ruhi
I agree. I, too, am under the impression that the GR V6 was an all-new, clean-sheet-of-paper design.

I believe that the smallest of the 6 yet-to-be-released Dynamic Force engines is a 3-cylinder unit.
who knows, because Toyota has introduced improved 1.0l 3cl already this year with new Aygo... and they also introduced new 1.5l ESTEC engine in last years Yaris. These are not counted here.

1.2t will be likely optimized further this year, but it wont be on the chart.

So who knows what are these 2 smaller ones? One is at least between 1.2l 112hp turbo and 2.0l 16hp NA engine... 1.6l turbo?
S
Joaquin Ruhi
I agree. I, too, am under the impression that the GR V6 was an all-new, clean-sheet-of-paper design.

I believe that the smallest of the 6 yet-to-be-released Dynamic Force engines is a 3-cylinder unit.
who knows, because Toyota has introduced improved 1.0l 3cl already this year with new Aygo... and they also introduced new 1.5l ESTEC engine in last years Yaris. These are not counted here.

1.2t will be likely optimized further this year, but it wont be on the chart.

So who knows what are these 2 smaller ones? One is at least between 1.2l 112hp turbo and 2.0l 16hp NA engine... 1.6l turbo?
C
spwolf
who knows, because Toyota has introduced improved 1.0l 3cl already this year with new Aygo... and they also introduced new 1.5l ESTEC engine in last years Yaris. These are not counted here.

1.2t will be likely optimized further this year, but it wont be on the chart.

So who knows what are these 2 smaller ones? One is at least between 1.2l 112hp turbo and 2.0l 16hp NA engine... 1.6l turbo?
Won't a 1.6l turbo end up easily exceeding the performance of the 2.0l NA? Unless it runs low boost pressure.

Also what DF engine will succeed Toyota's 1.5l NA?
C
spwolf
who knows, because Toyota has introduced improved 1.0l 3cl already this year with new Aygo... and they also introduced new 1.5l ESTEC engine in last years Yaris. These are not counted here.

1.2t will be likely optimized further this year, but it wont be on the chart.

So who knows what are these 2 smaller ones? One is at least between 1.2l 112hp turbo and 2.0l 16hp NA engine... 1.6l turbo?
Won't a 1.6l turbo end up easily exceeding the performance of the 2.0l NA? Unless it runs low boost pressure.

Also what DF engine will succeed Toyota's 1.5l NA?
C
spwolf
who knows, because Toyota has introduced improved 1.0l 3cl already this year with new Aygo... and they also introduced new 1.5l ESTEC engine in last years Yaris. These are not counted here.

1.2t will be likely optimized further this year, but it wont be on the chart.

So who knows what are these 2 smaller ones? One is at least between 1.2l 112hp turbo and 2.0l 16hp NA engine... 1.6l turbo?
Won't a 1.6l turbo end up easily exceeding the performance of the 2.0l NA? Unless it runs low boost pressure.

Also what DF engine will succeed Toyota's 1.5l NA?
T
Gecko
I was fairly certain that GR V6 was an all-new design? I think UR V8 was based loosely on UZ V8, but I thought GR was all-new.

V35A-FTS is a Dynamic Force engine, but the V6 Hybrid is not - it still uses the GR V6 as the ICE.
Like I said, I posted that on an empty, sleepy brain. Thanks for the correction. I'm pretty sure that the bottom end of the 2GR is based on the MZ. IDK, maybe I need to go to a junkyard and get the 2 motors, then tear them down and compare everything.
T
Gecko
I was fairly certain that GR V6 was an all-new design? I think UR V8 was based loosely on UZ V8, but I thought GR was all-new.

V35A-FTS is a Dynamic Force engine, but the V6 Hybrid is not - it still uses the GR V6 as the ICE.
Like I said, I posted that on an empty, sleepy brain. Thanks for the correction. I'm pretty sure that the bottom end of the 2GR is based on the MZ. IDK, maybe I need to go to a junkyard and get the 2 motors, then tear them down and compare everything.
T
Gecko
I was fairly certain that GR V6 was an all-new design? I think UR V8 was based loosely on UZ V8, but I thought GR was all-new.

V35A-FTS is a Dynamic Force engine, but the V6 Hybrid is not - it still uses the GR V6 as the ICE.
Like I said, I posted that on an empty, sleepy brain. Thanks for the correction. I'm pretty sure that the bottom end of the 2GR is based on the MZ. IDK, maybe I need to go to a junkyard and get the 2 motors, then tear them down and compare everything.
S
What else could be done to the 8NR though? The calibration engineers don't like it because the efficiency and torque just don't match the benchmark. The mechanical team doesn't like it because the cylinders are just too small to work with. But it ended up being one of the most important engines in their entire lineup (in China it was what made the Corolla the king of the compacts). That engine really needs a power bump to at least 100kW and over 200N.m, all the while not losing any efficiency.
S
What else could be done to the 8NR though? The calibration engineers don't like it because the efficiency and torque just don't match the benchmark. The mechanical team doesn't like it because the cylinders are just too small to work with. But it ended up being one of the most important engines in their entire lineup (in China it was what made the Corolla the king of the compacts). That engine really needs a power bump to at least 100kW and over 200N.m, all the while not losing any efficiency.
S
What else could be done to the 8NR though? The calibration engineers don't like it because the efficiency and torque just don't match the benchmark. The mechanical team doesn't like it because the cylinders are just too small to work with. But it ended up being one of the most important engines in their entire lineup (in China it was what made the Corolla the king of the compacts). That engine really needs a power bump to at least 100kW and over 200N.m, all the while not losing any efficiency.
S
TheNerdyPotato
Like I said, I posted that on an empty, sleepy brain. Thanks for the correction. I'm pretty sure that the bottom end of the 2GR is based on the MZ. IDK, maybe I need to go to a junkyard and get the 2 motors, then tear them down and compare everything.
Wait. You are suggesting that the GR family engines don't share the same base block (as the 4.0 1GR)?

All MZs are based on the 3.0 block right? Getting 3.5L out of it could certainly be a challenge
S
TheNerdyPotato
Like I said, I posted that on an empty, sleepy brain. Thanks for the correction. I'm pretty sure that the bottom end of the 2GR is based on the MZ. IDK, maybe I need to go to a junkyard and get the 2 motors, then tear them down and compare everything.
Wait. You are suggesting that the GR family engines don't share the same base block (as the 4.0 1GR)?

All MZs are based on the 3.0 block right? Getting 3.5L out of it could certainly be a challenge
S
TheNerdyPotato
Like I said, I posted that on an empty, sleepy brain. Thanks for the correction. I'm pretty sure that the bottom end of the 2GR is based on the MZ. IDK, maybe I need to go to a junkyard and get the 2 motors, then tear them down and compare everything.
Wait. You are suggesting that the GR family engines don't share the same base block (as the 4.0 1GR)?

All MZs are based on the 3.0 block right? Getting 3.5L out of it could certainly be a challenge
T
ssun30
Wait. You are suggesting that the GR family engines don't share the same base block (as the 4.0 1GR)?

All MZs are based on the 3.0 block right? Getting 3.5L out of it could certainly be a challenge
The 1GR and 2GR are very similar. I know the bellhousing and bottom end are rather different, though, specifically the 1GR has a taller deck and huge truck-sized transmission bolt pattern.

1MZ is 88x84mm. Yeah, the 2MZ 2.5l is a 3.0 destroked to 69mm, I think. The 3MZ 3.3l is a larger bore at 90mm but has the same 84mm stroke. 2GR again, has the same stroke as the 1MZ, but has a wider 94mm bore.

1MZ Deck:



2GR Deck:


I can't really say without inspecting them in person, but it looks like the bore spacing is about the same between generations, with material removed from between the cylinders. Also obvious is the move from a closed-deck to an open-deck design. I would like to check a number of other things, including bearing journal spacing and sizes, along with general construction (including bolt patterns) and dimensions. Somebody stop me before I make a mess in my garage. Again.
T
ssun30
Wait. You are suggesting that the GR family engines don't share the same base block (as the 4.0 1GR)?

All MZs are based on the 3.0 block right? Getting 3.5L out of it could certainly be a challenge
The 1GR and 2GR are very similar. I know the bellhousing and bottom end are rather different, though, specifically the 1GR has a taller deck and huge truck-sized transmission bolt pattern.

1MZ is 88x84mm. Yeah, the 2MZ 2.5l is a 3.0 destroked to 69mm, I think. The 3MZ 3.3l is a larger bore at 90mm but has the same 84mm stroke. 2GR again, has the same stroke as the 1MZ, but has a wider 94mm bore.

1MZ Deck:



2GR Deck:


I can't really say without inspecting them in person, but it looks like the bore spacing is about the same between generations, with material removed from between the cylinders. Also obvious is the move from a closed-deck to an open-deck design. I would like to check a number of other things, including bearing journal spacing and sizes, along with general construction (including bolt patterns) and dimensions. Somebody stop me before I make a mess in my garage. Again.
T
ssun30
Wait. You are suggesting that the GR family engines don't share the same base block (as the 4.0 1GR)?

All MZs are based on the 3.0 block right? Getting 3.5L out of it could certainly be a challenge
The 1GR and 2GR are very similar. I know the bellhousing and bottom end are rather different, though, specifically the 1GR has a taller deck and huge truck-sized transmission bolt pattern.

1MZ is 88x84mm. Yeah, the 2MZ 2.5l is a 3.0 destroked to 69mm, I think. The 3MZ 3.3l is a larger bore at 90mm but has the same 84mm stroke. 2GR again, has the same stroke as the 1MZ, but has a wider 94mm bore.

1MZ Deck:



2GR Deck:


I can't really say without inspecting them in person, but it looks like the bore spacing is about the same between generations, with material removed from between the cylinders. Also obvious is the move from a closed-deck to an open-deck design. I would like to check a number of other things, including bearing journal spacing and sizes, along with general construction (including bolt patterns) and dimensions. Somebody stop me before I make a mess in my garage. Again.
M
So aside from a twin turbo V8, what are you guys' best guesses for the other V8 on the diagram?
M
So aside from a twin turbo V8, what are you guys' best guesses for the other V8 on the diagram?
M
So aside from a twin turbo V8, what are you guys' best guesses for the other V8 on the diagram?
Gecko
MOBLIN
So aside from a twin turbo V8, what are you guys' best guesses for the other V8 on the diagram?
Workhorse V8 for Tundra, Sequoia, Land Cruiser... potentially LX?
Gecko
MOBLIN
So aside from a twin turbo V8, what are you guys' best guesses for the other V8 on the diagram?
Workhorse V8 for Tundra, Sequoia, Land Cruiser... potentially LX?
Gecko
MOBLIN
So aside from a twin turbo V8, what are you guys' best guesses for the other V8 on the diagram?
Workhorse V8 for Tundra, Sequoia, Land Cruiser... potentially LX?
Gecko
Another interesting thing I didn't notice before:
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The engine before the A25A-FKS and the one after it look identical - just like the two V8s look identical. So if they're going to be derivatives of the same block/basic design, that leads me to believe the engine between the V35A-FTS and A25A-FKS will indeed be a four cylinder (which just confirms the rumors, basically).

Could it be that the engine between the 2.0L M20A-FKS and 2.5L A25A-FKS is a new 2.0L turbo I4, and the engine between the A25A-FKS and the V35A-FTS is a 2.5L turbo I4? Does anyone know how the arrangement on this chart is determined - is it by displacement or power? It seems to be displacement, which means that the rumored 2.4L turbo I4 could also be the engine between the A25A-FKS and M20A-FKS, which puts us back to wondering what the engine is between A25A-FKS and V35A-FTS.

My assumption is those two new engines are a new 2.0L turbo I4 (between M20A and A25A) and a new 2.5L turbo I4 (between A25A and V35A).

G