Lexus August 2018 Sales Report

Everyone, critique of opinion and dispute of facts are fine, but let's avoid disparaging the person who holds the opinion ... Thanks!

Everyone, critique of opinion and dispute of facts are fine, but let's avoid disparaging the person who holds the opinion ... Thanks!

Just to be clear, it was not my intention to personally attack or personally disparage anyone. I'm saying this to remove any possible misinterpretations of my posts.

Just to be clear, it was not my intention to personally attack or personally disparage anyone. I'm saying this to remove any possible misinterpretations of my posts.

Just to be clear, it was not my intention to personally attack or personally disparage anyone. I'm saying this to remove any possible misinterpretations of my posts.

CIF

Just to be clear, it was not my intention to personally attack or personally disparage anyone. I'm saying this to remove any possible misinterpretations of my posts.

IMO ... no worries my friend. I wish I had the depth of knowledge you always bring to your posts!

And to be clear, I appreciate the enthusiasm everyone brings to LE!

CIF

Just to be clear, it was not my intention to personally attack or personally disparage anyone. I'm saying this to remove any possible misinterpretations of my posts.

IMO ... no worries my friend. I wish I had the depth of knowledge you always bring to your posts!

And to be clear, I appreciate the enthusiasm everyone brings to LE!

CIF

Just to be clear, it was not my intention to personally attack or personally disparage anyone. I'm saying this to remove any possible misinterpretations of my posts.

IMO ... no worries my friend. I wish I had the depth of knowledge you always bring to your posts!

And to be clear, I appreciate the enthusiasm everyone brings to LE!

RAL

IMO ... no worries my friend. I wish I had the depth of knowledge you always bring to your posts!

And to be clear, I appreciate the enthusiasm everyone brings to LE!

Thanks :).

RAL

IMO ... no worries my friend. I wish I had the depth of knowledge you always bring to your posts!

And to be clear, I appreciate the enthusiasm everyone brings to LE!

Thanks :).

RAL

IMO ... no worries my friend. I wish I had the depth of knowledge you always bring to your posts!

And to be clear, I appreciate the enthusiasm everyone brings to LE!

Thanks :).

Lexus hybrid technology seems to be most impressive right now. Hopefully we see some of this added to performance ala a GS 450h which in retrospect was way ahead of its time.

Lexus hybrid technology seems to be most impressive right now. Hopefully we see some of this added to performance ala a GS 450h which in retrospect was way ahead of its time.

Lexus hybrid technology seems to be most impressive right now. Hopefully we see some of this added to performance ala a GS 450h which in retrospect was way ahead of its time.

mikeavelli

Lexus hybrid technology seems to be most impressive right now. Hopefully we see some of this added to performance ala a GS 450h which in retrospect was way ahead of its time.

I wish Toyota/Lexus would be a bit more adventurous with their hybrid powertrain applications. Many times, it seems the company just errs on the side of adequate. It would be fun to see something like the new 2L hybrid system in the new Corolla Hatchback or an optional 2.5L hybrid system in the UX (maybe rear motor only to help with weight distribution?). My experience is that their hybrid systems seem to punch quite a bit above what their max output would suggest, which is most likely a function of the instant torque from the electric motor(s), but horsepower limitations still apply. If you look at the NX300h, it's impressive that it can achieve the kind of gas mileage that it does on an SUV weighing more than 4000 lbs, but the power is the very definition of just adequate. The same can be said for the new ES300h with its newer generation of the technology. Its acceleration is decent due to the slightly more HP and lighter curb weight, but do luxury car buyers really want "decent" or "adequate"?

mikeavelli

Lexus hybrid technology seems to be most impressive right now. Hopefully we see some of this added to performance ala a GS 450h which in retrospect was way ahead of its time.

I wish Toyota/Lexus would be a bit more adventurous with their hybrid powertrain applications. Many times, it seems the company just errs on the side of adequate. It would be fun to see something like the new 2L hybrid system in the new Corolla Hatchback or an optional 2.5L hybrid system in the UX (maybe rear motor only to help with weight distribution?). My experience is that their hybrid systems seem to punch quite a bit above what their max output would suggest, which is most likely a function of the instant torque from the electric motor(s), but horsepower limitations still apply. If you look at the NX300h, it's impressive that it can achieve the kind of gas mileage that it does on an SUV weighing more than 4000 lbs, but the power is the very definition of just adequate. The same can be said for the new ES300h with its newer generation of the technology. Its acceleration is decent due to the slightly more HP and lighter curb weight, but do luxury car buyers really want "decent" or "adequate"?

mikeavelli

Lexus hybrid technology seems to be most impressive right now. Hopefully we see some of this added to performance ala a GS 450h which in retrospect was way ahead of its time.

I wish Toyota/Lexus would be a bit more adventurous with their hybrid powertrain applications. Many times, it seems the company just errs on the side of adequate. It would be fun to see something like the new 2L hybrid system in the new Corolla Hatchback or an optional 2.5L hybrid system in the UX (maybe rear motor only to help with weight distribution?). My experience is that their hybrid systems seem to punch quite a bit above what their max output would suggest, which is most likely a function of the instant torque from the electric motor(s), but horsepower limitations still apply. If you look at the NX300h, it's impressive that it can achieve the kind of gas mileage that it does on an SUV weighing more than 4000 lbs, but the power is the very definition of just adequate. The same can be said for the new ES300h with its newer generation of the technology. Its acceleration is decent due to the slightly more HP and lighter curb weight, but do luxury car buyers really want "decent" or "adequate"?

I, too, wish Toyota/Lexus would have more powertrain options, though not just with hybrids. I test drove a 2008 Yaris many years back and thought it was an underpowered lump with the meager 1.5l. If it had the 1.8l (1ZZ/2ZR?) to give it a little more kick, it would have been fine. Similarly, giving Corollas the option to get the Camry's 4cyl as a performance option would be nice. Heck, they already did that with the second Corolla XRS (2AZ). There was even the JDM Toyota Blade Master G Touring Edition (ugh) which was basically a Corolla hatchback with the 2GR.

Finally, if it would fit, it'd be awesome to see a V6 hybrid option on the K platform sedans (Camry, Avalon, ES, Auris) as a top-shelf option. Electric RWD for AWD functionality could be sweet.

I, too, wish Toyota/Lexus would have more powertrain options, though not just with hybrids. I test drove a 2008 Yaris many years back and thought it was an underpowered lump with the meager 1.5l. If it had the 1.8l (1ZZ/2ZR?) to give it a little more kick, it would have been fine. Similarly, giving Corollas the option to get the Camry's 4cyl as a performance option would be nice. Heck, they already did that with the second Corolla XRS (2AZ). There was even the JDM Toyota Blade Master G Touring Edition (ugh) which was basically a Corolla hatchback with the 2GR.

Finally, if it would fit, it'd be awesome to see a V6 hybrid option on the K platform sedans (Camry, Avalon, ES, Auris) as a top-shelf option. Electric RWD for AWD functionality could be sweet.

I, too, wish Toyota/Lexus would have more powertrain options, though not just with hybrids. I test drove a 2008 Yaris many years back and thought it was an underpowered lump with the meager 1.5l. If it had the 1.8l (1ZZ/2ZR?) to give it a little more kick, it would have been fine. Similarly, giving Corollas the option to get the Camry's 4cyl as a performance option would be nice. Heck, they already did that with the second Corolla XRS (2AZ). There was even the JDM Toyota Blade Master G Touring Edition (ugh) which was basically a Corolla hatchback with the 2GR.

Finally, if it would fit, it'd be awesome to see a V6 hybrid option on the K platform sedans (Camry, Avalon, ES, Auris) as a top-shelf option. Electric RWD for AWD functionality could be sweet.

TheNerdyPotato

I, too, wish Toyota/Lexus would have more powertrain options, though not just with hybrids. I test drove a 2008 Yaris many years back and thought it was an underpowered lump with the meager 1.5l. If it had the 1.8l (1ZZ/2ZR?) to give it a little more kick, it would have been fine. Similarly, giving Corollas the option to get the Camry's 4cyl as a performance option would be nice. Heck, they already did that with the second Corolla XRS (2AZ). There was even the JDM Toyota Blade Master G Touring Edition (ugh) which was basically a Corolla hatchback with the 2GR.

Finally, if it would fit, it'd be awesome to see a V6 hybrid option on the K platform sedans (Camry, Avalon, ES, Auris) as a top-shelf option. Electric RWD for AWD functionality could be sweet.

Both new 2019 Corolla Hatch and 2018 Camry have very decent base engines.

Camry V6 is already only 8% of the sales, you can imagine how low would be vehicle that sells for extra $5k of that.

But it is still interesting that Toyota is bringing AWD Camry/Avalon/Prius to the USA.

TheNerdyPotato

I, too, wish Toyota/Lexus would have more powertrain options, though not just with hybrids. I test drove a 2008 Yaris many years back and thought it was an underpowered lump with the meager 1.5l. If it had the 1.8l (1ZZ/2ZR?) to give it a little more kick, it would have been fine. Similarly, giving Corollas the option to get the Camry's 4cyl as a performance option would be nice. Heck, they already did that with the second Corolla XRS (2AZ). There was even the JDM Toyota Blade Master G Touring Edition (ugh) which was basically a Corolla hatchback with the 2GR.

Finally, if it would fit, it'd be awesome to see a V6 hybrid option on the K platform sedans (Camry, Avalon, ES, Auris) as a top-shelf option. Electric RWD for AWD functionality could be sweet.

Both new 2019 Corolla Hatch and 2018 Camry have very decent base engines.

Camry V6 is already only 8% of the sales, you can imagine how low would be vehicle that sells for extra $5k of that.

But it is still interesting that Toyota is bringing AWD Camry/Avalon/Prius to the USA.

TheNerdyPotato

I, too, wish Toyota/Lexus would have more powertrain options, though not just with hybrids. I test drove a 2008 Yaris many years back and thought it was an underpowered lump with the meager 1.5l. If it had the 1.8l (1ZZ/2ZR?) to give it a little more kick, it would have been fine. Similarly, giving Corollas the option to get the Camry's 4cyl as a performance option would be nice. Heck, they already did that with the second Corolla XRS (2AZ). There was even the JDM Toyota Blade Master G Touring Edition (ugh) which was basically a Corolla hatchback with the 2GR.

Finally, if it would fit, it'd be awesome to see a V6 hybrid option on the K platform sedans (Camry, Avalon, ES, Auris) as a top-shelf option. Electric RWD for AWD functionality could be sweet.

Both new 2019 Corolla Hatch and 2018 Camry have very decent base engines.

Camry V6 is already only 8% of the sales, you can imagine how low would be vehicle that sells for extra $5k of that.

But it is still interesting that Toyota is bringing AWD Camry/Avalon/Prius to the USA.

Fair enough, but my thought on this occurred a few years back, when I drove that Yaris and realized that Corollas had been stuck at ~130hp for over a decade, yet were growing heavier every year. The M20 should be a solid update.

Edit: And since they won't sell me a Yaris GRMN, at least sell me one with the M20 and a stick. I like little whippable cars around town.

Fair enough, but my thought on this occurred a few years back, when I drove that Yaris and realized that Corollas had been stuck at ~130hp for over a decade, yet were growing heavier every year. The M20 should be a solid update.

Edit: And since they won't sell me a Yaris GRMN, at least sell me one with the M20 and a stick. I like little whippable cars around town.

Fair enough, but my thought on this occurred a few years back, when I drove that Yaris and realized that Corollas had been stuck at ~130hp for over a decade, yet were growing heavier every year. The M20 should be a solid update.

Edit: And since they won't sell me a Yaris GRMN, at least sell me one with the M20 and a stick. I like little whippable cars around town.

TheNerdyPotato

Fair enough, but my thought on this occurred a few years back, when I drove that Yaris and realized that Corollas had been stuck at ~130hp for over a decade, yet were growing heavier every year. The M20 should be a solid update.

Edit: And since they won't sell me a Yaris GRMN, at least sell me one with the M20 and a stick. I like little whippable cars around town.

well, if Japanese rumors are true, there will be a lot of GRMN versions with new 1.6 3cly turbo with 240hp in the future.

TheNerdyPotato

Fair enough, but my thought on this occurred a few years back, when I drove that Yaris and realized that Corollas had been stuck at ~130hp for over a decade, yet were growing heavier every year. The M20 should be a solid update.

Edit: And since they won't sell me a Yaris GRMN, at least sell me one with the M20 and a stick. I like little whippable cars around town.

well, if Japanese rumors are true, there will be a lot of GRMN versions with new 1.6 3cly turbo with 240hp in the future.

TheNerdyPotato

Fair enough, but my thought on this occurred a few years back, when I drove that Yaris and realized that Corollas had been stuck at ~130hp for over a decade, yet were growing heavier every year. The M20 should be a solid update.

Edit: And since they won't sell me a Yaris GRMN, at least sell me one with the M20 and a stick. I like little whippable cars around town.

well, if Japanese rumors are true, there will be a lot of GRMN versions with new 1.6 3cly turbo with 240hp in the future.

spwolf

new 2019 Corolla Hatch... have very decent base engines.

I just realized that the Corolla sedan is a carryover model, which is a disappointment.