Lexus August 2018 Sales Report


USA

Lexus USA has reported 28,622 total sales for August 2018, a 7.1% decrease over last year — here’s the model-by-model breakdown:

MONTH Year to Date (*DSR)
2018 2017 % CHG* 2018 2017 % CHG*
CT 0 204 -100 4 4,572 -99.9
IS 2,231 2,445 -8.8 15,595 17,216 -9.9
RC 327 665 -50.8 2,335 4,286 -45.8
ES 4,686 6,404 -26.8 29,138 34,845 -16.8
GS 549 689 -20.3 4,707 4,894 -4.3
LS 923 413 123.5 6,004 2,670 123.8
LC 210 291 -28 1,392 1449 -4
LFA 0 0 0 2 1 99
Total Cars 8,926 11,111 -19.7 59,177 69,933 -15.8
NX 5,644 5,517 2.3 38,969 36,946 5.0
RX 10,875 10,391 4.7 70,706 66,760 5.4
GX 2,773 3336 -16.9 16,817 16,308 2.6
LX 404 446 -9.4 3,356 3,516 -5.0
Total Trucks 19,696 19,690 0.0 129,848 123,530 4.6
Total Sales 28,622 30,801 -7.1 189,025 193,463 -2.8

Please note, all percentages are calculated by the Daily Sales Rate (DSR), which takes into account the number of days in the month that dealerships could sell cars. August 2018 had 27 selling days, August 2017 had 27 selling days.

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Comments
Rhambler
I love how Lexus reported a monthly sales increase this past month by using percentage rates, whereas most manufacturers reported true numbers.

Typical of Toyota: over reporting and over stating values, just like their engines.

I wouldn’t call that ignorance, though. Let’s see, what word would fit better? Hmm. Denial. There we go.
Rhambler is just a troll who is not actually a lexus enthusiast but just has too much time on his hands.

The Lexus numbers are reported every month but only an actual lexus enthusiast would know that :eyes:
Rhambler
I love how Lexus reported a monthly sales increase this past month by using percentage rates, whereas most manufacturers reported true numbers.

Typical of Toyota: over reporting and over stating values, just like their engines.

I wouldn’t call that ignorance, though. Let’s see, what word would fit better? Hmm. Denial. There we go.
Rhambler is just a troll who is not actually a lexus enthusiast but just has too much time on his hands.

The Lexus numbers are reported every month but only an actual lexus enthusiast would know that :eyes:
R
I just never noticed it before and it is misleading in my opinion.

I only noticed it after reading Tragic’s post in the April Sales thread, where Lexus reported a monthly sales increase, while the media (and numbers) shows a decline.

Go to the summary release of other manufactuers and they report percentages based on volume, which to me makes more sense.

Like I said, denial, or it paints a misleading picture. Either way, regardless of how they report, it’s not changing (nor can it hide for long) the fact that another luxury maker will overtake Lexus if the REAL RATES don’t change.

Mercedes-Benz USA, propelled by strong demand for SUVs, topped the luxury U.S. sales race in April and continues to outpace its nearest rivals, No. 2 BMW and No. 3 Lexus, year to date.

Mercedes' U.S. sales inched 1 percent higher in April to 27,207, excluding the brand's commercial van sales. U.S. sales at Mercedes for January through April dipped 0.4 percent to 105,681 from a year ago. BMW sales rose 3.8 percent in April to 23,482, while Lexus volume dipped 2.1 percent to 21,642.

Rounding out the luxury segment's top five brands in April U.S. sales were Audi, with sales of 19,104, up 2.1 percent; and Acura, with deliveries of 11,888, down 16 percent.

Even with a dip in volume, Mercedes remains in first place among luxury brands year to date, followed by BMW (97,317) and Lexus (85,853).

Mercedes-Benz' volume leaders in April were the GLC, C class and GLE. The GLC took the lead in April with U.S. sales of 5,853, followed by C class deliveries of 5,148. The GLE rounded out the top three with 4,110 units sold.

"April sales are leading us into a solid second quarter," Mercedes-Benz USA CEO Dietmar Exler said in a statement. "We continue to see strong demand for our SUVs, and our increasingly diverse product lineup will continue this momentum as we enter into the summer months."

Porsche Cars North America Inc. reported April U.S. sales of 5,570 -- a monthly retail record -- and a 0.7 percent gain over April 2017. Retail sales for January through April rose 7 percent to 19,524 vehicles.

"The Porsche mix of two- and four-door sports cars is getting a broad welcome from customers," Porsche Cars North America CEO Klaus Zellmer said in a statement. "We see this in the strong April demand that crosses model lines."

April growth leaders were the 718 Cayman, up 67 percent year-over-year, and the Macan, which gained 33 percent from April 2017.

Total U.S. luxury sales dipped 2.2 percent in April, excluding Cadillac's results. And for the year, deliveries of luxury brands are up 1.3 percent, excluding Cadillac. General Motors is now releasing quarterly U.S. sales results, rather than monthly, for Cadillac and its other core brands, Chevrolet, GMC and Buick.

Overall, the luxury market is outperforming the total U.S. light-vehicle market, which slipped an estimated 4.8 percent in April but is up 0.2 percent year to date.
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I just never noticed it before and it is misleading in my opinion.

I only noticed it after reading Tragic’s post in the April Sales thread, where Lexus reported a monthly sales increase, while the media (and numbers) shows a decline.

Go to the summary release of other manufactuers and they report percentages based on volume, which to me makes more sense.

Like I said, denial, or it paints a misleading picture. Either way, regardless of how they report, it’s not changing (nor can it hide for long) the fact that another luxury maker will overtake Lexus if the REAL RATES don’t change.

Mercedes-Benz USA, propelled by strong demand for SUVs, topped the luxury U.S. sales race in April and continues to outpace its nearest rivals, No. 2 BMW and No. 3 Lexus, year to date.

Mercedes' U.S. sales inched 1 percent higher in April to 27,207, excluding the brand's commercial van sales. U.S. sales at Mercedes for January through April dipped 0.4 percent to 105,681 from a year ago. BMW sales rose 3.8 percent in April to 23,482, while Lexus volume dipped 2.1 percent to 21,642.

Rounding out the luxury segment's top five brands in April U.S. sales were Audi, with sales of 19,104, up 2.1 percent; and Acura, with deliveries of 11,888, down 16 percent.

Even with a dip in volume, Mercedes remains in first place among luxury brands year to date, followed by BMW (97,317) and Lexus (85,853).

Mercedes-Benz' volume leaders in April were the GLC, C class and GLE. The GLC took the lead in April with U.S. sales of 5,853, followed by C class deliveries of 5,148. The GLE rounded out the top three with 4,110 units sold.

"April sales are leading us into a solid second quarter," Mercedes-Benz USA CEO Dietmar Exler said in a statement. "We continue to see strong demand for our SUVs, and our increasingly diverse product lineup will continue this momentum as we enter into the summer months."

Porsche Cars North America Inc. reported April U.S. sales of 5,570 -- a monthly retail record -- and a 0.7 percent gain over April 2017. Retail sales for January through April rose 7 percent to 19,524 vehicles.

"The Porsche mix of two- and four-door sports cars is getting a broad welcome from customers," Porsche Cars North America CEO Klaus Zellmer said in a statement. "We see this in the strong April demand that crosses model lines."

April growth leaders were the 718 Cayman, up 67 percent year-over-year, and the Macan, which gained 33 percent from April 2017.

Total U.S. luxury sales dipped 2.2 percent in April, excluding Cadillac's results. And for the year, deliveries of luxury brands are up 1.3 percent, excluding Cadillac. General Motors is now releasing quarterly U.S. sales results, rather than monthly, for Cadillac and its other core brands, Chevrolet, GMC and Buick.

Overall, the luxury market is outperforming the total U.S. light-vehicle market, which slipped an estimated 4.8 percent in April but is up 0.2 percent year to date.
R
I just never noticed it before and it is misleading in my opinion.

I only noticed it after reading Tragic’s post in the April Sales thread, where Lexus reported a monthly sales increase, while the media (and numbers) shows a decline.

Go to the summary release of other manufactuers and they report percentages based on volume, which to me makes more sense.

Like I said, denial, or it paints a misleading picture. Either way, regardless of how they report, it’s not changing (nor can it hide for long) the fact that another luxury maker will overtake Lexus if the REAL RATES don’t change.

Mercedes-Benz USA, propelled by strong demand for SUVs, topped the luxury U.S. sales race in April and continues to outpace its nearest rivals, No. 2 BMW and No. 3 Lexus, year to date.

Mercedes' U.S. sales inched 1 percent higher in April to 27,207, excluding the brand's commercial van sales. U.S. sales at Mercedes for January through April dipped 0.4 percent to 105,681 from a year ago. BMW sales rose 3.8 percent in April to 23,482, while Lexus volume dipped 2.1 percent to 21,642.

Rounding out the luxury segment's top five brands in April U.S. sales were Audi, with sales of 19,104, up 2.1 percent; and Acura, with deliveries of 11,888, down 16 percent.

Even with a dip in volume, Mercedes remains in first place among luxury brands year to date, followed by BMW (97,317) and Lexus (85,853).

Mercedes-Benz' volume leaders in April were the GLC, C class and GLE. The GLC took the lead in April with U.S. sales of 5,853, followed by C class deliveries of 5,148. The GLE rounded out the top three with 4,110 units sold.

"April sales are leading us into a solid second quarter," Mercedes-Benz USA CEO Dietmar Exler said in a statement. "We continue to see strong demand for our SUVs, and our increasingly diverse product lineup will continue this momentum as we enter into the summer months."

Porsche Cars North America Inc. reported April U.S. sales of 5,570 -- a monthly retail record -- and a 0.7 percent gain over April 2017. Retail sales for January through April rose 7 percent to 19,524 vehicles.

"The Porsche mix of two- and four-door sports cars is getting a broad welcome from customers," Porsche Cars North America CEO Klaus Zellmer said in a statement. "We see this in the strong April demand that crosses model lines."

April growth leaders were the 718 Cayman, up 67 percent year-over-year, and the Macan, which gained 33 percent from April 2017.

Total U.S. luxury sales dipped 2.2 percent in April, excluding Cadillac's results. And for the year, deliveries of luxury brands are up 1.3 percent, excluding Cadillac. General Motors is now releasing quarterly U.S. sales results, rather than monthly, for Cadillac and its other core brands, Chevrolet, GMC and Buick.

Overall, the luxury market is outperforming the total U.S. light-vehicle market, which slipped an estimated 4.8 percent in April but is up 0.2 percent year to date.
carguy420
Great off the line acceleration and overtaking performance plus great fuel economy will help Toyota get even more supporters. Time to get rid of the sluggish acceleration found on the Pruis/Prius C.

And as for Gazoo Racing, THS-R please.
There are rumors of sport models with 250hp 1.6l 3cl turbo engine... I dont think it will be a hybrid (not a full one anyway).
carguy420
Great off the line acceleration and overtaking performance plus great fuel economy will help Toyota get even more supporters. Time to get rid of the sluggish acceleration found on the Pruis/Prius C.

And as for Gazoo Racing, THS-R please.
There are rumors of sport models with 250hp 1.6l 3cl turbo engine... I dont think it will be a hybrid (not a full one anyway).
carguy420
Great off the line acceleration and overtaking performance plus great fuel economy will help Toyota get even more supporters. Time to get rid of the sluggish acceleration found on the Pruis/Prius C.

And as for Gazoo Racing, THS-R please.
There are rumors of sport models with 250hp 1.6l 3cl turbo engine... I dont think it will be a hybrid (not a full one anyway).
spwolf
There are rumors of sport models with 250hp 1.6l 3cl turbo engine... I dont think it will be a hybrid (not a full one anyway).
That sounds quite interesting, I've never heard of it before.
spwolf
There are rumors of sport models with 250hp 1.6l 3cl turbo engine... I dont think it will be a hybrid (not a full one anyway).
That sounds quite interesting, I've never heard of it before.
spwolf
There are rumors of sport models with 250hp 1.6l 3cl turbo engine... I dont think it will be a hybrid (not a full one anyway).
That sounds quite interesting, I've never heard of it before.
Not sure if you have read this article before but I'll share it regardless. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ush-spurs-rush-at-yamaha-for-plug-in-know-how
Not sure if you have read this article before but I'll share it regardless. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ush-spurs-rush-at-yamaha-for-plug-in-know-how
Not sure if you have read this article before but I'll share it regardless. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ush-spurs-rush-at-yamaha-for-plug-in-know-how
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carguy420
Not sure if you have read this article before but I'll share it regardless. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ush-spurs-rush-at-yamaha-for-plug-in-know-how
Welcome to the forum.

I think this is a Toyota Group decision, maybe it doesn't want its two wheeler buddy to be left behind in bike electrification? The Yamaha car thing is a bit strange, since Toyota Motor Corp doesn't really any help from it (they already have big name partners who are EV experts). Is Yamaha is afraid of a deal between TMC and Suzuki? I don't think they can really stop that.

Shame that Yamaha is no longer making sports car engines for Toyota Motor Corp these days. They should have at least asked Yamaha to try with an Inline-6 for the Supra...
carguy420
Not sure if you have read this article before but I'll share it regardless. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ush-spurs-rush-at-yamaha-for-plug-in-know-how
Welcome to the forum.

I think this is a Toyota Group decision, maybe it doesn't want its two wheeler buddy to be left behind in bike electrification? The Yamaha car thing is a bit strange, since Toyota Motor Corp doesn't really any help from it (they already have big name partners who are EV experts). Is Yamaha is afraid of a deal between TMC and Suzuki? I don't think they can really stop that.

Shame that Yamaha is no longer making sports car engines for Toyota Motor Corp these days. They should have at least asked Yamaha to try with an Inline-6 for the Supra...
carguy420
Not sure if you have read this article before but I'll share it regardless. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ush-spurs-rush-at-yamaha-for-plug-in-know-how
Welcome to the forum.

I think this is a Toyota Group decision, maybe it doesn't want its two wheeler buddy to be left behind in bike electrification? The Yamaha car thing is a bit strange, since Toyota Motor Corp doesn't really any help from it (they already have big name partners who are EV experts). Is Yamaha is afraid of a deal between TMC and Suzuki? I don't think they can really stop that.

Shame that Yamaha is no longer making sports car engines for Toyota Motor Corp these days. They should have at least asked Yamaha to try with an Inline-6 for the Supra...
ssun30
Welcome to the forum.

I think this is a Toyota Group decision, maybe it doesn't want its two wheeler buddy to be left behind in bike electrification? The Yamaha car thing is a bit strange, since Toyota Motor Corp doesn't really any help from it (they already have big name partners who are EV experts). Is Yamaha is afraid of a deal between TMC and Suzuki? I don't think they can really stop that.

Shame that Yamaha is no longer making sports car engines for Toyota Motor Corp these days. They should have at least asked Yamaha to try with an Inline-6 for the Supra...
I am not sure they dont contribute in R&D of new engines, for instance 1.6l 3cly turbo might be using some of their tech.
ssun30
Welcome to the forum.

I think this is a Toyota Group decision, maybe it doesn't want its two wheeler buddy to be left behind in bike electrification? The Yamaha car thing is a bit strange, since Toyota Motor Corp doesn't really any help from it (they already have big name partners who are EV experts). Is Yamaha is afraid of a deal between TMC and Suzuki? I don't think they can really stop that.

Shame that Yamaha is no longer making sports car engines for Toyota Motor Corp these days. They should have at least asked Yamaha to try with an Inline-6 for the Supra...
I am not sure they dont contribute in R&D of new engines, for instance 1.6l 3cly turbo might be using some of their tech.
ssun30
Welcome to the forum.

I think this is a Toyota Group decision, maybe it doesn't want its two wheeler buddy to be left behind in bike electrification? The Yamaha car thing is a bit strange, since Toyota Motor Corp doesn't really any help from it (they already have big name partners who are EV experts). Is Yamaha is afraid of a deal between TMC and Suzuki? I don't think they can really stop that.

Shame that Yamaha is no longer making sports car engines for Toyota Motor Corp these days. They should have at least asked Yamaha to try with an Inline-6 for the Supra...
I am not sure they dont contribute in R&D of new engines, for instance 1.6l 3cly turbo might be using some of their tech.
RAL
Welcome to LE @carguy420
Thanks!:)
RAL
Welcome to LE @carguy420
Thanks!:)
RAL
Welcome to LE @carguy420
Thanks!:)
ssun30
A ravigenaux gearset offers three forward ratios and one reverse ratio right? I think those 4ATs usually have an overdrive attached for the 4th gear.

The GS450h only makes use of two out of the three ratios. The multi-stage uses two separate planetary gearsets.
I recall my old 96 Camry with the 4 speed A140E transaxle had a Ravignaux gear in it with no other planetary sets, or at least that's what the FSM said. It's very similar to the A540 used in the V6 Camry and ES300 of the same era. They have 2 reduction gears, direct drive, and overdrive for forward gears. A reverse gear is also included in the same unit. The 6 speed U660 used with the FWD 2GR uses a Lapalletier (spelling?) which is a Ravignaux with an extra planetary set for the 2 additional forward gears.



I found that video a while back. Good info.
ssun30
A ravigenaux gearset offers three forward ratios and one reverse ratio right? I think those 4ATs usually have an overdrive attached for the 4th gear.

The GS450h only makes use of two out of the three ratios. The multi-stage uses two separate planetary gearsets.
I recall my old 96 Camry with the 4 speed A140E transaxle had a Ravignaux gear in it with no other planetary sets, or at least that's what the FSM said. It's very similar to the A540 used in the V6 Camry and ES300 of the same era. They have 2 reduction gears, direct drive, and overdrive for forward gears. A reverse gear is also included in the same unit. The 6 speed U660 used with the FWD 2GR uses a Lapalletier (spelling?) which is a Ravignaux with an extra planetary set for the 2 additional forward gears.



I found that video a while back. Good info.
ssun30
A ravigenaux gearset offers three forward ratios and one reverse ratio right? I think those 4ATs usually have an overdrive attached for the 4th gear.

The GS450h only makes use of two out of the three ratios. The multi-stage uses two separate planetary gearsets.
I recall my old 96 Camry with the 4 speed A140E transaxle had a Ravignaux gear in it with no other planetary sets, or at least that's what the FSM said. It's very similar to the A540 used in the V6 Camry and ES300 of the same era. They have 2 reduction gears, direct drive, and overdrive for forward gears. A reverse gear is also included in the same unit. The 6 speed U660 used with the FWD 2GR uses a Lapalletier (spelling?) which is a Ravignaux with an extra planetary set for the 2 additional forward gears.



I found that video a while back. Good info.
Should the next generation Toyota 86 be more of a Toyota and less of a Subaru? But my main question is its engine, in terms of feel and performance it has a lot of room for improvement. Do you think Toyota will commission Yamaha for a better engine?

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