First 2019 Lexus ES Sedan Rolls Off Production Line in Kentucky


The very first 2019 Lexus ES 350 F SPORT has rolled off the production line at the Georgetown factory in Kentucky:

The Lexus line in Georgetown won a J.D. Power Platinum award in 2016 after its first year of production, and has just been awarded a Gold award for the second consecutive year.

The Lexus ES will be arriving in dealerships this September. Pricing has been announced, and here you can read our review of the all-new sedan.

Lexus ES: Sixth Generation
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emptystreets130
I'm not saying it competes with the LS. I'm saying why get the LS if the ES will be bigger than the LS, and cheaper than the LS, with roughly the same power as the LS500h. Reading through the clublexus forums, not a lot of LS owners are happy with the ES.

If they want to buy a car per yard, the Avalon is a better value.
Having bigger leg room doesn't mean it's bigger than the LS, the LS's rear seats still by far more comfortable and nicer place to be in - the shoulders area in the LS is certainly bigger-

For the power, the LS500h is by far more powerful than ES300h, the materials inside the LS are coming truly from different world, so far from what you will get with the ES

There is no comparison at all, the leg room isn't everything.
emptystreets130
I'm sorry Lexus but what's your target audience for the ES F-Sport. Mid-40s?
Yes. Younger is relative to current ES owners.

The 20-30 crowd will get the IS/UX/NX instead.
emptystreets130
I'm sorry Lexus but what's your target audience for the ES F-Sport. Mid-40s?
Yes. Younger is relative to current ES owners.

The 20-30 crowd will get the IS/UX/NX instead.
emptystreets130
I'm sorry Lexus but what's your target audience for the ES F-Sport. Mid-40s?
Yes. Younger is relative to current ES owners.

The 20-30 crowd will get the IS/UX/NX instead.
emptystreets130
I'm sorry Lexus but what's your target audience for the ES F-Sport. Mid-40s?
Yes. Younger is relative to current ES owners.

The 20-30 crowd will get the IS/UX/NX instead.
Guys, I don't know how to say this but the ES vs LS talk is just not reality. No one that buys a LS seriously considers a ES it could have 50 more inches of leg room. People that want a LS want a LS or S class etc. If Legroom mattered that much they would buy a Avalon and save 60 grand.

I am not talking about the .000001% person who does. The price points and cars are completely different and it won't matter what the ES offers it won't hurt the LS.
Guys, I don't know how to say this but the ES vs LS talk is just not reality. No one that buys a LS seriously considers a ES it could have 50 more inches of leg room. People that want a LS want a LS or S class etc. If Legroom mattered that much they would buy a Avalon and save 60 grand.

I am not talking about the .000001% person who does. The price points and cars are completely different and it won't matter what the ES offers it won't hurt the LS.
Guys, I don't know how to say this but the ES vs LS talk is just not reality. No one that buys a LS seriously considers a ES it could have 50 more inches of leg room. People that want a LS want a LS or S class etc. If Legroom mattered that much they would buy a Avalon and save 60 grand.

I am not talking about the .000001% person who does. The price points and cars are completely different and it won't matter what the ES offers it won't hurt the LS.
Guys, I don't know how to say this but the ES vs LS talk is just not reality. No one that buys a LS seriously considers a ES it could have 50 more inches of leg room. People that want a LS want a LS or S class etc. If Legroom mattered that much they would buy a Avalon and save 60 grand.

I am not talking about the .000001% person who does. The price points and cars are completely different and it won't matter what the ES offers it won't hurt the LS.
mikeavelli
Guys, I don't know how to say this but the ES vs LS talk is just not reality. No one that buys a LS seriously considers a ES it could have 50 more inches of leg room. People that want a LS want a LS or S class etc. If Legroom mattered that much they would buy a Avalon and save 60 grand.

I am not talking about the .000001% person who does. The price points and cars are completely different and it won't matter what the ES offers it won't hurt the LS.
I don't understand how a technical question evolved into a ES vs LS nonsense. They are clearly not comparable cars. I was only asking how the ES has more legroom.
mikeavelli
Guys, I don't know how to say this but the ES vs LS talk is just not reality. No one that buys a LS seriously considers a ES it could have 50 more inches of leg room. People that want a LS want a LS or S class etc. If Legroom mattered that much they would buy a Avalon and save 60 grand.

I am not talking about the .000001% person who does. The price points and cars are completely different and it won't matter what the ES offers it won't hurt the LS.
I don't understand how a technical question evolved into a ES vs LS nonsense. They are clearly not comparable cars. I was only asking how the ES has more legroom.
mikeavelli
Guys, I don't know how to say this but the ES vs LS talk is just not reality. No one that buys a LS seriously considers a ES it could have 50 more inches of leg room. People that want a LS want a LS or S class etc. If Legroom mattered that much they would buy a Avalon and save 60 grand.

I am not talking about the .000001% person who does. The price points and cars are completely different and it won't matter what the ES offers it won't hurt the LS.
I don't understand how a technical question evolved into a ES vs LS nonsense. They are clearly not comparable cars. I was only asking how the ES has more legroom.
mikeavelli
Guys, I don't know how to say this but the ES vs LS talk is just not reality. No one that buys a LS seriously considers a ES it could have 50 more inches of leg room. People that want a LS want a LS or S class etc. If Legroom mattered that much they would buy a Avalon and save 60 grand.

I am not talking about the .000001% person who does. The price points and cars are completely different and it won't matter what the ES offers it won't hurt the LS.
I don't understand how a technical question evolved into a ES vs LS nonsense. They are clearly not comparable cars. I was only asking how the ES has more legroom.
Was chatting about various models with my salesman this morning while my LS500 was detailed for delivery and he said that Lexus has promised dealers an AWD version of the 7ES, but they don't have a firm date yet other than "not this year".
Was chatting about various models with my salesman this morning while my LS500 was detailed for delivery and he said that Lexus has promised dealers an AWD version of the 7ES, but they don't have a firm date yet other than "not this year".
Was chatting about various models with my salesman this morning while my LS500 was detailed for delivery and he said that Lexus has promised dealers an AWD version of the 7ES, but they don't have a firm date yet other than "not this year".
Was chatting about various models with my salesman this morning while my LS500 was detailed for delivery and he said that Lexus has promised dealers an AWD version of the 7ES, but they don't have a firm date yet other than "not this year".
ssun30
I don't understand how a technical question evolved into a ES vs LS nonsense. They are clearly not comparable cars. I was only asking how the ES has more legroom.
This is not in response to your tech question, but @emptystreets130 's post:

emptystreets130
This is coming from the recent article, Lexus ES F Sport Aimed at Younger Audience. Why are they advertising this? Do they really want to consumers to steer away from the LS? I don't know about the rest of you but Lexus marketing is taking a turn for the worse. If I was an LS owner, I don't want to see that my flagship vehicle has less rear leg room than the entry level luxury car that cost about 20-30k less. The ES has grown every generation and it's pretty damn scary. It doesn't feel like a midsize car.
Ian Schmidt
Was chatting about various models with my salesman this morning while my LS500 was detailed for delivery
Nicely done!
ssun30
I don't understand how a technical question evolved into a ES vs LS nonsense. They are clearly not comparable cars. I was only asking how the ES has more legroom.
This is not in response to your tech question, but @emptystreets130 's post:

emptystreets130
This is coming from the recent article, Lexus ES F Sport Aimed at Younger Audience. Why are they advertising this? Do they really want to consumers to steer away from the LS? I don't know about the rest of you but Lexus marketing is taking a turn for the worse. If I was an LS owner, I don't want to see that my flagship vehicle has less rear leg room than the entry level luxury car that cost about 20-30k less. The ES has grown every generation and it's pretty damn scary. It doesn't feel like a midsize car.
Ian Schmidt
Was chatting about various models with my salesman this morning while my LS500 was detailed for delivery
Nicely done!
ssun30
I don't understand how a technical question evolved into a ES vs LS nonsense. They are clearly not comparable cars. I was only asking how the ES has more legroom.
This is not in response to your tech question, but @emptystreets130 's post:

emptystreets130
This is coming from the recent article, Lexus ES F Sport Aimed at Younger Audience. Why are they advertising this? Do they really want to consumers to steer away from the LS? I don't know about the rest of you but Lexus marketing is taking a turn for the worse. If I was an LS owner, I don't want to see that my flagship vehicle has less rear leg room than the entry level luxury car that cost about 20-30k less. The ES has grown every generation and it's pretty damn scary. It doesn't feel like a midsize car.
Ian Schmidt
Was chatting about various models with my salesman this morning while my LS500 was detailed for delivery
Nicely done!
ssun30
I don't understand how a technical question evolved into a ES vs LS nonsense. They are clearly not comparable cars. I was only asking how the ES has more legroom.
This is not in response to your tech question, but @emptystreets130 's post:

emptystreets130
This is coming from the recent article, Lexus ES F Sport Aimed at Younger Audience. Why are they advertising this? Do they really want to consumers to steer away from the LS? I don't know about the rest of you but Lexus marketing is taking a turn for the worse. If I was an LS owner, I don't want to see that my flagship vehicle has less rear leg room than the entry level luxury car that cost about 20-30k less. The ES has grown every generation and it's pretty damn scary. It doesn't feel like a midsize car.
Ian Schmidt
Was chatting about various models with my salesman this morning while my LS500 was detailed for delivery
Nicely done!
Does Lexus/Toyota have any AWD hybrid sedan? I know the last LS600h was. But any other? I was quite interested in the CH-R, but it only available as FWD HEV or AWD ICE.
Does Lexus/Toyota have any AWD hybrid sedan? I know the last LS600h was. But any other? I was quite interested in the CH-R, but it only available as FWD HEV or AWD ICE.
Does Lexus/Toyota have any AWD hybrid sedan? I know the last LS600h was. But any other? I was quite interested in the CH-R, but it only available as FWD HEV or AWD ICE.
Does Lexus/Toyota have any AWD hybrid sedan? I know the last LS600h was. But any other? I was quite interested in the CH-R, but it only available as FWD HEV or AWD ICE.
Madi
Look at 1:48 in the following video, is that a rear seat back adjuster?

yeah thats cool, I also see that the ES will have heads-up display.
Madi
Look at 1:48 in the following video, is that a rear seat back adjuster?

yeah thats cool, I also see that the ES will have heads-up display.
Madi
Look at 1:48 in the following video, is that a rear seat back adjuster?

yeah thats cool, I also see that the ES will have heads-up display.
Madi
Look at 1:48 in the following video, is that a rear seat back adjuster?

yeah thats cool, I also see that the ES will have heads-up display.
Levi
Does Lexus/Toyota have any AWD hybrid sedan? I know the last LS600h was. But any other? I was quite interested in the CH-R, but it only available as FWD HEV or AWD ICE.
UX250h is coming with AWD, i think same powertrain will soon come to CHR as well, maybe even later this year.

I think some Japanese RWD hybrid Toyota's had e-awd system, based on 300h powertrain + front electric motors.

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