Lexus LC F to Debut in 2021 with Over 600 Horsepower?

Posted by Kevin on May 29th, 2018

Car & Driver has joined the Lexus LC F rumor mill, claiming that the high-performance coupe will debut in 2021 with a twin-turbo 4.0L V8 “making north of 600 horsepower”. The magazine also expects a 10-speed automatic, plus updates to the torque-vectoring differential and Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) system.

There are other details as well: The LC F will be outfitted with carbon fiber and other lightweight materials to reduce mass, the front and rear will get an aggressive update, and there will be vents in both the hood and fenders.

There’s even speculation on the price — Car & Driver suggests the LC F will have an MSRP approaching $200,000 USD.

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PeterF
I completely agree. People will have a fit if its a TTV6. A TTV8 will distinguish it from others; also, they coukd get way more than 600 HP out of a TTV8; A LCF would be very distinctive at 650+ HP
I do not see how TTV8 can distinguish it from others, when today every top luxury performance car has a TTV8 (not V10, V12), from VAG (Porsche, Lambo, Bentley) to Ferrari/Maserati, McLaren, Aston Martin, Mercedes-AMG, GM, FCA, etc.

Two exceptions: Nissan GT-R and Honda NSX with both TTV6.
PeterF
Levi
I do not see how TTV8 can distinguish it from others, when today every top luxury performance car has a TTV8 (not V10, V12), from VAG (Porsche, Lambo, Bentley) to Ferrari/Maserati, McLaren, Aston Martin, Mercedes-AMG, GM, FCA, etc.

Two exceptions: Nissan GT-R and Honda NSX with both TTV6.
i see your point. I guess I was thinking about comparing to the Nissan GT-R, but I see that that is too narrow.
PeterF
Levi
I do not see how TTV8 can distinguish it from others, when today every top luxury performance car has a TTV8 (not V10, V12), from VAG (Porsche, Lambo, Bentley) to Ferrari/Maserati, McLaren, Aston Martin, Mercedes-AMG, GM, FCA, etc.

Two exceptions: Nissan GT-R and Honda NSX with both TTV6.
i see your point. I guess I was thinking about comparing to the Nissan GT-R, but I see that that is too narrow.
PeterF
Levi
I do not see how TTV8 can distinguish it from others, when today every top luxury performance car has a TTV8 (not V10, V12), from VAG (Porsche, Lambo, Bentley) to Ferrari/Maserati, McLaren, Aston Martin, Mercedes-AMG, GM, FCA, etc.

Two exceptions: Nissan GT-R and Honda NSX with both TTV6.
i see your point. I guess I was thinking about comparing to the Nissan GT-R, but I see that that is too narrow.
PeterF
Levi
I do not see how TTV8 can distinguish it from others, when today every top luxury performance car has a TTV8 (not V10, V12), from VAG (Porsche, Lambo, Bentley) to Ferrari/Maserati, McLaren, Aston Martin, Mercedes-AMG, GM, FCA, etc.

Two exceptions: Nissan GT-R and Honda NSX with both TTV6.
i see your point. I guess I was thinking about comparing to the Nissan GT-R, but I see that that is too narrow.
PeterF
Levi
I do not see how TTV8 can distinguish it from others, when today every top luxury performance car has a TTV8 (not V10, V12), from VAG (Porsche, Lambo, Bentley) to Ferrari/Maserati, McLaren, Aston Martin, Mercedes-AMG, GM, FCA, etc.

Two exceptions: Nissan GT-R and Honda NSX with both TTV6.
i see your point. I guess I was thinking about comparing to the Nissan GT-R, but I see that that is too narrow.
meth.ix
http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/16952/lexus-lc-f-is-happening-will-go-turbo
pretty old article, but I don't think anyone noticed this:
A Lexus employee confirmed to The Drive that an LC F is indeed a thing that's understood to be in the works, even corroborating the above report's claims of it using a twin-turbo 4.0-liter.
meth.ix
http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/16952/lexus-lc-f-is-happening-will-go-turbo
pretty old article, but I don't think anyone noticed this:
A Lexus employee confirmed to The Drive that an LC F is indeed a thing that's understood to be in the works, even corroborating the above report's claims of it using a twin-turbo 4.0-liter.
meth.ix
http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/16952/lexus-lc-f-is-happening-will-go-turbo
pretty old article, but I don't think anyone noticed this:
A Lexus employee confirmed to The Drive that an LC F is indeed a thing that's understood to be in the works, even corroborating the above report's claims of it using a twin-turbo 4.0-liter.
meth.ix
http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/16952/lexus-lc-f-is-happening-will-go-turbo
pretty old article, but I don't think anyone noticed this:
A Lexus employee confirmed to The Drive that an LC F is indeed a thing that's understood to be in the works, even corroborating the above report's claims of it using a twin-turbo 4.0-liter.
meth.ix
http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/16952/lexus-lc-f-is-happening-will-go-turbo
pretty old article, but I don't think anyone noticed this:
A Lexus employee confirmed to The Drive that an LC F is indeed a thing that's understood to be in the works, even corroborating the above report's claims of it using a twin-turbo 4.0-liter.
L
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
L
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
L
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
L
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
L
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
S
Levi
Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
They could use the same 5.0L NA V8 plus a hybrid system and no turbocharged competition will even compare to the instant response of a hybrid. A 2UR-GSE with a pair of their latest battery packs is already 590hp, plus a few tweaks here and there to easily push it north of 600hp plus AWD and electric torque vectoring, and the best part is this is something they can do today. But they are not going to do that. It's a too un-Lexus thing to do. They are not Porsche. Maybe for whatever reason they want a supercar to last over 200,000 miles so no fancy tech allowed.

The constant talk and tease about THS-R but no commitment to actually do one is becoming very annoying. Closest we are going to get is that GR Super Sport which is basically just a homologated road version of the TS050.
S
Levi
Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
They could use the same 5.0L NA V8 plus a hybrid system and no turbocharged competition will even compare to the instant response of a hybrid. A 2UR-GSE with a pair of their latest battery packs is already 590hp, plus a few tweaks here and there to easily push it north of 600hp plus AWD and electric torque vectoring, and the best part is this is something they can do today. But they are not going to do that. It's a too un-Lexus thing to do. They are not Porsche. Maybe for whatever reason they want a supercar to last over 200,000 miles so no fancy tech allowed.

The constant talk and tease about THS-R but no commitment to actually do one is becoming very annoying. Closest we are going to get is that GR Super Sport which is basically just a homologated road version of the TS050.
S
Levi
Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
They could use the same 5.0L NA V8 plus a hybrid system and no turbocharged competition will even compare to the instant response of a hybrid. A 2UR-GSE with a pair of their latest battery packs is already 590hp, plus a few tweaks here and there to easily push it north of 600hp plus AWD and electric torque vectoring, and the best part is this is something they can do today. But they are not going to do that. It's a too un-Lexus thing to do. They are not Porsche. Maybe for whatever reason they want a supercar to last over 200,000 miles so no fancy tech allowed.

The constant talk and tease about THS-R but no commitment to actually do one is becoming very annoying. Closest we are going to get is that GR Super Sport which is basically just a homologated road version of the TS050.
S
Levi
Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
They could use the same 5.0L NA V8 plus a hybrid system and no turbocharged competition will even compare to the instant response of a hybrid. A 2UR-GSE with a pair of their latest battery packs is already 590hp, plus a few tweaks here and there to easily push it north of 600hp plus AWD and electric torque vectoring, and the best part is this is something they can do today. But they are not going to do that. It's a too un-Lexus thing to do. They are not Porsche. Maybe for whatever reason they want a supercar to last over 200,000 miles so no fancy tech allowed.

The constant talk and tease about THS-R but no commitment to actually do one is becoming very annoying. Closest we are going to get is that GR Super Sport which is basically just a homologated road version of the TS050.
S
Levi
Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
They could use the same 5.0L NA V8 plus a hybrid system and no turbocharged competition will even compare to the instant response of a hybrid. A 2UR-GSE with a pair of their latest battery packs is already 590hp, plus a few tweaks here and there to easily push it north of 600hp plus AWD and electric torque vectoring, and the best part is this is something they can do today. But they are not going to do that. It's a too un-Lexus thing to do. They are not Porsche. Maybe for whatever reason they want a supercar to last over 200,000 miles so no fancy tech allowed.

The constant talk and tease about THS-R but no commitment to actually do one is becoming very annoying. Closest we are going to get is that GR Super Sport which is basically just a homologated road version of the TS050.
L
Yes, a performance setup of the LS 600h could be something. It is such a pleasant thing to start driving silently without noise and then firing a great sounding engine at full throttle without take-off lag and then coming back to a crawl in silence.
Unfortunately, here again it will be hard to beat the prowess of German marketing, with the ~700 PS Hybrid Continental GT (Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Plugin powertrain).
L
Yes, a performance setup of the LS 600h could be something. It is such a pleasant thing to start driving silently without noise and then firing a great sounding engine at full throttle without take-off lag and then coming back to a crawl in silence.
Unfortunately, here again it will be hard to beat the prowess of German marketing, with the ~700 PS Hybrid Continental GT (Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Plugin powertrain).
L
Yes, a performance setup of the LS 600h could be something. It is such a pleasant thing to start driving silently without noise and then firing a great sounding engine at full throttle without take-off lag and then coming back to a crawl in silence.
Unfortunately, here again it will be hard to beat the prowess of German marketing, with the ~700 PS Hybrid Continental GT (Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Plugin powertrain).
L
Yes, a performance setup of the LS 600h could be something. It is such a pleasant thing to start driving silently without noise and then firing a great sounding engine at full throttle without take-off lag and then coming back to a crawl in silence.
Unfortunately, here again it will be hard to beat the prowess of German marketing, with the ~700 PS Hybrid Continental GT (Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Plugin powertrain).
L
Yes, a performance setup of the LS 600h could be something. It is such a pleasant thing to start driving silently without noise and then firing a great sounding engine at full throttle without take-off lag and then coming back to a crawl in silence.
Unfortunately, here again it will be hard to beat the prowess of German marketing, with the ~700 PS Hybrid Continental GT (Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Plugin powertrain).
mikeavelli
Levi
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
I drove the #LCUL8TR quite a bit recently and in Atlanta, you would think its an exotic car. People could not stop taking pics, asking questions, giving thumbs up etc. They simply nailed the design, it does look exotic for 100k compared to the usual suspects.

It also never gets old to hear people talk about it being a LFA or asking is it a LFA. :)

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mikeavelli
Levi
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
I drove the #LCUL8TR quite a bit recently and in Atlanta, you would think its an exotic car. People could not stop taking pics, asking questions, giving thumbs up etc. They simply nailed the design, it does look exotic for 100k compared to the usual suspects.

It also never gets old to hear people talk about it being a LFA or asking is it a LFA. :)

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mikeavelli
Levi
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
I drove the #LCUL8TR quite a bit recently and in Atlanta, you would think its an exotic car. People could not stop taking pics, asking questions, giving thumbs up etc. They simply nailed the design, it does look exotic for 100k compared to the usual suspects.

It also never gets old to hear people talk about it being a LFA or asking is it a LFA. :)

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mikeavelli
Levi
It is amazing how Lexus managed to build two cars, that I find worth their high price for only one aspect (not saying all the rest is bad).

The LFA is worth it even only for its V10, and the LC is worth it even only for its design, that no other can compare to: no Mercedes, no BMW, no Porsche, no Bentley, no Lamborghini, no Ferrari, no Aston Martin. I can't think of one car, that is worth it for even only one aspect (-- maybe Land Cruiser?).

Unfortunately its design does not seem enough. The LC F's rivals will be the M8 and the Continental GT, both with turbocharged +600 PS engines, AWD and AWS. Today a luxury car without AWD is not respected. I think the LC F needs AWD and AWS. Wonder if that will be enough on paper. It should.

Yet I personally think the LC is too good looking to be a fast undrivable and bad sounding car. I'm sorry, but supercharger and turbo never has and never will sound as naturally aspirated.
I drove the #LCUL8TR quite a bit recently and in Atlanta, you would think its an exotic car. People could not stop taking pics, asking questions, giving thumbs up etc. They simply nailed the design, it does look exotic for 100k compared to the usual suspects.

It also never gets old to hear people talk about it being a LFA or asking is it a LFA. :)

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