Lexus LC F to Debut in 2021 with Over 600 Horsepower?

Posted by Kevin on May 29th, 2018

Car & Driver has joined the Lexus LC F rumor mill, claiming that the high-performance coupe will debut in 2021 with a twin-turbo 4.0L V8 “making north of 600 horsepower”. The magazine also expects a 10-speed automatic, plus updates to the torque-vectoring differential and Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) system.

There are other details as well: The LC F will be outfitted with carbon fiber and other lightweight materials to reduce mass, the front and rear will get an aggressive update, and there will be vents in both the hood and fenders.

There’s even speculation on the price — Car & Driver suggests the LC F will have an MSRP approaching $200,000 USD.

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PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler.... but it could be an early stage version with the new engine. My experience on the track with the LC says that they need better cooling / venting for the LC to become a serious trackable car.. It certainly looks mean
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler.... but it could be an early stage version with the new engine. My experience on the track with the LC says that they need better cooling / venting for the LC to become a serious trackable car.. It certainly looks mean
Joaquin Ruhi
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler...
Besides that, previous full-on Lexus F models (IS F, RC F and GS F) have been distinguished by 2 major traits: large vertical/diagonal front fender vents just forward of the front doors and quad diagonal exhaust tips out back. Since the 2 photos in question unfortunately fail to show the rear end, it's anybody's guess what the exhaust tips look like. The lack of front fender vents implies an F Sport, as opposed to full-on F. On the other hand, given the "regular" LC's large side vents aft of the doors, perhaps the LC F will be an exception to the "F front fender vent rule".

Even though my first impression was "LC F prototype", upon looking at these pictures more closely, I share PeterF's skepticism that this is the LC F. More likely a potential LC F Sport variant.
Joaquin Ruhi
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler...
Besides that, previous full-on Lexus F models (IS F, RC F and GS F) have been distinguished by 2 major traits: large vertical/diagonal front fender vents just forward of the front doors and quad diagonal exhaust tips out back. Since the 2 photos in question unfortunately fail to show the rear end, it's anybody's guess what the exhaust tips look like. The lack of front fender vents implies an F Sport, as opposed to full-on F. On the other hand, given the "regular" LC's large side vents aft of the doors, perhaps the LC F will be an exception to the "F front fender vent rule".

Even though my first impression was "LC F prototype", upon looking at these pictures more closely, I share PeterF's skepticism that this is the LC F. More likely a potential LC F Sport variant.
Joaquin Ruhi
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler...
Besides that, previous full-on Lexus F models (IS F, RC F and GS F) have been distinguished by 2 major traits: large vertical/diagonal front fender vents just forward of the front doors and quad diagonal exhaust tips out back. Since the 2 photos in question unfortunately fail to show the rear end, it's anybody's guess what the exhaust tips look like. The lack of front fender vents implies an F Sport, as opposed to full-on F. On the other hand, given the "regular" LC's large side vents aft of the doors, perhaps the LC F will be an exception to the "F front fender vent rule".

Even though my first impression was "LC F prototype", upon looking at these pictures more closely, I share PeterF's skepticism that this is the LC F. More likely a potential LC F Sport variant.
Joaquin Ruhi
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler...
Besides that, previous full-on Lexus F models (IS F, RC F and GS F) have been distinguished by 2 major traits: large vertical/diagonal front fender vents just forward of the front doors and quad diagonal exhaust tips out back. Since the 2 photos in question unfortunately fail to show the rear end, it's anybody's guess what the exhaust tips look like. The lack of front fender vents implies an F Sport, as opposed to full-on F. On the other hand, given the "regular" LC's large side vents aft of the doors, perhaps the LC F will be an exception to the "F front fender vent rule".

Even though my first impression was "LC F prototype", upon looking at these pictures more closely, I share PeterF's skepticism that this is the LC F. More likely a potential LC F Sport variant.
Ian Schmidt
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler.... but it could be an early stage version with the new engine. My experience on the track with the LC says that they need better cooling / venting for the LC to become a serious trackable car.. It certainly looks mean
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
Ian Schmidt
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler.... but it could be an early stage version with the new engine. My experience on the track with the LC says that they need better cooling / venting for the LC to become a serious trackable car.. It certainly looks mean
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
Ian Schmidt
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler.... but it could be an early stage version with the new engine. My experience on the track with the LC says that they need better cooling / venting for the LC to become a serious trackable car.. It certainly looks mean
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
Ian Schmidt
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler.... but it could be an early stage version with the new engine. My experience on the track with the LC says that they need better cooling / venting for the LC to become a serious trackable car.. It certainly looks mean
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
Ian Schmidt
PeterF
humm, not sure if this is the LC F. I thought it would have more venting on the hood and a spoiler.... but it could be an early stage version with the new engine. My experience on the track with the LC says that they need better cooling / venting for the LC to become a serious trackable car.. It certainly looks mean
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
PeterF
Ian Schmidt
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
perhaps, but it appears critical that more air is vented over the engine and transmission. It's possible to use those front vents and grill more efficiently to do the venting, so maybe you're right there. While I'm not entirely sure of the engineering, but I was reading a bit on the transmission engineering in the RC F and GS F and it suggested to me that those transmissions are engineered differently to allow for more fluid flow and transmission cooling as well. The LC's transmission may not have been engineered in the same way. The GM at my dealership spent some time recently with Sato and he told me that the car was being engineered to make it entirely track ready. It will be very interesting to see what they come up with.
PeterF
Ian Schmidt
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
perhaps, but it appears critical that more air is vented over the engine and transmission. It's possible to use those front vents and grill more efficiently to do the venting, so maybe you're right there. While I'm not entirely sure of the engineering, but I was reading a bit on the transmission engineering in the RC F and GS F and it suggested to me that those transmissions are engineered differently to allow for more fluid flow and transmission cooling as well. The LC's transmission may not have been engineered in the same way. The GM at my dealership spent some time recently with Sato and he told me that the car was being engineered to make it entirely track ready. It will be very interesting to see what they come up with.
PeterF
Ian Schmidt
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
perhaps, but it appears critical that more air is vented over the engine and transmission. It's possible to use those front vents and grill more efficiently to do the venting, so maybe you're right there. While I'm not entirely sure of the engineering, but I was reading a bit on the transmission engineering in the RC F and GS F and it suggested to me that those transmissions are engineered differently to allow for more fluid flow and transmission cooling as well. The LC's transmission may not have been engineered in the same way. The GM at my dealership spent some time recently with Sato and he told me that the car was being engineered to make it entirely track ready. It will be very interesting to see what they come up with.
PeterF
Ian Schmidt
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
perhaps, but it appears critical that more air is vented over the engine and transmission. It's possible to use those front vents and grill more efficiently to do the venting, so maybe you're right there. While I'm not entirely sure of the engineering, but I was reading a bit on the transmission engineering in the RC F and GS F and it suggested to me that those transmissions are engineered differently to allow for more fluid flow and transmission cooling as well. The LC's transmission may not have been engineered in the same way. The GM at my dealership spent some time recently with Sato and he told me that the car was being engineered to make it entirely track ready. It will be very interesting to see what they come up with.
PeterF
Ian Schmidt
My feeling is that there's enough surface area of vents on the current LC for it to be made trackable (I mean, even those of us that like the spindle agree it's a big honking thing), they just aren't taking advantage of them properly.
perhaps, but it appears critical that more air is vented over the engine and transmission. It's possible to use those front vents and grill more efficiently to do the venting, so maybe you're right there. While I'm not entirely sure of the engineering, but I was reading a bit on the transmission engineering in the RC F and GS F and it suggested to me that those transmissions are engineered differently to allow for more fluid flow and transmission cooling as well. The LC's transmission may not have been engineered in the same way. The GM at my dealership spent some time recently with Sato and he told me that the car was being engineered to make it entirely track ready. It will be very interesting to see what they come up with.
L
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
L
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
L
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
L
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
L
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
PeterF
Levi
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
PeterF
Levi
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
PeterF
Levi
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
PeterF
Levi
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
PeterF
Levi
What gearbox does the LC 500 have? If the LC-F will not be AWD, but RWD only, I think it is important for it to have a transaxle, either in front or behind the rear axle does not matter much. Aston Martin and AMG GT do have it. Worse is if the new BMW M8 will get transaxle, because BMW has never done it before, and it will make the M8 a very good car.
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
L
PeterF
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
If it is Aisin, then no transaxle. The only one made was for the LFA, and I think they made a dual clutch version and manual version for prototype/testing. The other car that had a 6 speed manual transaxle was the Toyota 4500GT concept. IF, the new Supra gets a transaxle, it will certainly be BMW's one supplied by ZF. Getrag's one that AMG uses? Less likely even though Getrag also supplied M cars. Will have to wait till Supra reveal. If Supra has no, LC-F won't either. And with 600 PS, AWD would be better. But let us not forget the GT-R AWD transaxle, we'll find out if the AMG GT4 will have something of the kind.
L
PeterF
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
If it is Aisin, then no transaxle. The only one made was for the LFA, and I think they made a dual clutch version and manual version for prototype/testing. The other car that had a 6 speed manual transaxle was the Toyota 4500GT concept. IF, the new Supra gets a transaxle, it will certainly be BMW's one supplied by ZF. Getrag's one that AMG uses? Less likely even though Getrag also supplied M cars. Will have to wait till Supra reveal. If Supra has no, LC-F won't either. And with 600 PS, AWD would be better. But let us not forget the GT-R AWD transaxle, we'll find out if the AMG GT4 will have something of the kind.
L
PeterF
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
If it is Aisin, then no transaxle. The only one made was for the LFA, and I think they made a dual clutch version and manual version for prototype/testing. The other car that had a 6 speed manual transaxle was the Toyota 4500GT concept. IF, the new Supra gets a transaxle, it will certainly be BMW's one supplied by ZF. Getrag's one that AMG uses? Less likely even though Getrag also supplied M cars. Will have to wait till Supra reveal. If Supra has no, LC-F won't either. And with 600 PS, AWD would be better. But let us not forget the GT-R AWD transaxle, we'll find out if the AMG GT4 will have something of the kind.
L
PeterF
The LC 500 has the new 10 speed RWD gearbox (from supplier Aisin) that it shares with the LS 500. IDK if the transmission includes a transaxel (I'm not an expert here)
If it is Aisin, then no transaxle. The only one made was for the LFA, and I think they made a dual clutch version and manual version for prototype/testing. The other car that had a 6 speed manual transaxle was the Toyota 4500GT concept. IF, the new Supra gets a transaxle, it will certainly be BMW's one supplied by ZF. Getrag's one that AMG uses? Less likely even though Getrag also supplied M cars. Will have to wait till Supra reveal. If Supra has no, LC-F won't either. And with 600 PS, AWD would be better. But let us not forget the GT-R AWD transaxle, we'll find out if the AMG GT4 will have something of the kind.

L