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I just noticed those black plastic over the fenders yesterday.

I know they can protect the fender wells as well as the surrounding area but in terms of aesthetics, did Lexus try to make it look more muscular? I am not liking the design as it detracts from the fluidity.
I just noticed those black plastic over the fenders yesterday.

I know they can protect the fender wells as well as the surrounding area but in terms of aesthetics, did Lexus try to make it look more muscular? I am not liking the design as it detracts from the fluidity.
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I just noticed those black plastic over the fenders yesterday.

I know they can protect the fender wells as well as the surrounding area but in terms of aesthetics, did Lexus try to make it look more muscular? I am not liking the design as it detracts from the fluidity.
#Cheap plastic fender bolt-on off-road style, for luxury German cars, another stupid trend they started and all are following. Land Cruiser, a true off-road car, never had that. I hate that plastic fender, it is really cheap, especially on expensive cars.
That side profile IS a Hatchback. The UX IS THE successor to the CT. They just have to call it a crossover because that word alone prints money.
I had the same thought when I saw the lowered UX - it's absolutely the CT's successor. If you want a new CT, buy a UX and a set of lowering springs :)
Levi
#Cheap plastic fender bolt-on off-road style, for luxury German cars, another stupid trend they started and all are following. Land Cruiser, a true off-road car, never had that. I hate that plastic fender, it is really cheap, especially on expensive cars.
I thought I was the only one that did mind about those plastic fender bolt-on off-road style. Good to know you share the same sentiment. It's so fugly, at least make it possible to remove those pieces if the owner chooses so.
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I thought I was the only one that did mind about those plastic fender bolt-on off-road style. Good to know you share the same sentiment. It's so fugly, at least make it possible to remove those pieces if the owner chooses so.
It's a bad execution, the UX concept looked a lot better
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Ian Schmidt
I had the same thought when I saw the lowered UX - it's absolutely the CT's successor. If you want a new CT, buy a UX and a set of lowering springs :)
Lexus marketing keeps talking about the UX as a crossover, but that ride height is all hatchback. You wouldn’t need to lower it much considering it’s already at the level of your average sedan. My brain hurts whenever they talk about how it gives you the commanding view of a crossover with the feel of hatchback. Aren’t those at odds with each other? :)
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telithos
Lexus marketing keeps talking about the UX as a crossover, but that ride height is all hatchback. You wouldn’t need to lower it much considering it’s already at the level of your average sedan. My brain hurts whenever they talk about how it gives you the commanding view of a crossover with the feel of hatchback. Aren’t those at odds with each other? :)
Everything CUV/SUV is at odds. Most CUVs, if not all, do not have THE commanding view that most claim to like.

The other claim about CUVs/SUVs by customers (or did manufacturers fabricate that claim?) is concerning their easy entry/exit compared to sedans thank to the car being higher/taller. Yet the latest SUVs' sell the optional air-suspension and promote the extra low setting "parked" that allows easier entry/exit. New CUVs/SUVs are not even that tall that this is needed. Most CUVs/SUVs are lowered and have little ground clearance with hard suspension to make them handle better with less body role.

I don't want to rain on the UX's parade, because I want Lexus to make money so that they could make other less profitable but more emotional cars, yet CUVs/SUVs are the most irrational thing that happened in the history of automotive industry. Nothing at all about them makes any sense.
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Levi
Everything CUV/SUV is at odds. Most CUVs, if not all, do not have THE commanding view that most claim to like.

The other claim about CUVs/SUVs by customers (or did manufacturers fabricate that claim?) is concerning their easy entry/exit compared to sedans thanks to the car being higher/taller. Yet the latest SUVs' sell the optional air-suspension and promote the extra low setting "parked" that allows easier entry/exit. New CUVs/SUVs are not even that tall that this is needed. Most CUVs/SUVs are lowered and have little ground clearance with hard suspension to make them handle better with less body role.

I don't want to rain on the UX's parade, because I want Lexus to make money so that they could make other less profitable but more emotional cars, yet CUVs/SUVs are the most irrational thing that happened in the history of automotive industry. Nothing at all about them makes any sense.
In all reality, I couldn't care less if Lexus were to call the UX a short, high-riding, low-slung wagon :). It fits my definition of what I would traditionally call a hatchback. Ironically, though, I remember having a conversation about my wife a few months ago about how my RAV4 used to provide the ability to see the road a little bit better. Now that almost everyone seems to be driving taller/higher vehicles, that advantage is pretty much lost. The only things you get nowadays from the CUV/SUV type vehicles is crappier gas mileage and handling (as compared to a hatchback/wagon). I was actually quite shocked that Lexus publicly compared the UX driving feel to a hatchback, since that seems to be a dirty word these days.

I'm cautiously optimistic that the new UX will provide the driving experience that I'm looking for with the desired form factor. When I test drove the CT a few years back, I really liked the way it handled. The powertrain, however, was beyond anemic, and the NVH levels were absolutely not Lexus quality (not sure if that got fixed in a revision).

I don't see anything to stymie the CUV/SUV trend other than something catastrophic happening to fuel prices. People like the idea of being able to put more in their vehicle even if they never use it (most don't). Likewise, many think that a bigger vehicle is safer, despite the vehicle size arms-race that has resulted from it. It's hard to say how popular the UX will end up. It really just depends on whether it's perceived as a crossover. It's all pretty funny to me that companies are trying to market vehicles the size and stance of a Mazda3 hatchback as crossovers nowadays.
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telithos
I don't see anything to stymie the CUV/SUV trend other than something catastrophic happening to fuel prices.
With "Prius-like" crossovers, fuel prices will change nothing. The Jaguar I-Pace is a CUV, not hatch or sedan.

I'll be happy when CUVs/SUVs will not be called that anymore, but will simply be referred to as cars. Times change, so do cars, and if the new cars look/are as what we today call CUV/SUV, let it be, but no need to deceive. When CUV/SUV will no more be a selling point, we might see some purpose, if by then we will not yet drive autonomous pods.

By the way, this does not look like anything today, but in those days it also was a car.

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I noticed something weird. In all of the first look videos for the UX, nobody has popped the hatch open. I wonder if Lexus told them not to. There are a few pictures out there showing it, but nothing in video format. I always find the Redline Review videos pretty informative. For instance, he pointed out that the back doors use hard touch plastic on the top part. :(
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Yes I saw that review as well and was disappointed by the use of hard plastics on the interior panels of the rear doors. Hopefully that is just a pre-production thing and not something that will make it to production as that would be super disappointing for a Lexus.
telithos
I noticed something weird. In all of the first look videos for the UX, nobody has popped the hatch open. I wonder if Lexus told them not to. There are a few pictures out there showing it, but nothing in video format. I always find the Redline Review videos pretty informative. For instance, he pointed out that the back doors use hard touch plastic on the top part. :(
In Geneva, Lexus EU really gave a limited info on UX... Lexus USA gave a lot more info.

And lets mention that the reviewer said that car looks better in person, more interesting than others, that interior blows his mind and that it is like baby LS.
krew
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this is excellent, high quality video that every lexus fan needs to see... congrats to the redline.
After seeing that video, UX sales are gonna be on fire.

The NX was an instant hit as well.
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Make sure you watch it with a decent computer/device. 60 fps is glorious :). I can't wait for some actual test drive videos.
One thing that puzzles me about the 100B program was, we never really saw it in testing. Why was this never spotted in prototype (final design) nor mule form within the last 2 years? The last sight of this was, the CT based mules in May 2013, June 2013, July 2015, and August 2016.
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I have never spy shots of this the actual UX once, save for this mysterious Nurburgring spy shot of the supposed Prius v in October 2017.


I think the original source for that shot claiming Prius v, was an idiot and it was most likely the UX250h. I suggested this last year but didn't have enough evidence to prove it. No way it was worth anytime to be testing a Toyota hybrid nameplate on the Ring, unlike say a Lexus. Whoever came up with that silly rumour should ashamed, as this is how adequate news flow is weakened, by uninformative reporting.
^^ I assume that some vehicles go under the radar as they are not something that really appeals to a spy photographer. Looking at those Nurburgring pics it could be confused with a number of vehicles.

Personally I was very happy to see a nice reveal without 100,000 spy photos and theories. The UX in pics exceeded my expectations.
Carmaker1
One thing that puzzles me about the 100B program was, we never really saw it in testing. Why was this never spotted in prototype (final design) nor mule form within the last 2 years? The last sight of this was, the CT based mules in May 2013, June I think the original source for that shot claiming Prius v, was an idiot and it was most likely the UX250h. I suggested this last year but didn't have enough evidence to prove it. No way it was worth anytime to be testing a Toyota hybrid nameplate on the Ring, unlike say a Lexus. Whoever came up with that silly rumour should ashamed, as this is how adequate news flow is weakened, by uninformative reporting.

Not sure what Lexus was so desperate to hide, compared to the LS and ES being spotted testing. Heck, even LC was spotted testing in mule and prototype form. It is really in their best interest not to do soley digital prototyping like a dozen years ago with some cars rushed into production.

They probably tested it in C-HR body and nobody guessed it is a Lexus.

Otherwise, that Toyota is likely a Prius SUV, similar to Rav4, maybe 7 seater? And it might indeed replace Prius v. It certainly looks bigger than C-HR and UX.

And Toyota has been testing on ring for quite a while... I remember C-HR was tested there and if my memory serves me, even 2011 Yaris was tested a lot there for high speed stability.

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