This Week: Driving the All New 2018 Lexus LS Flagship


The time has arrived — starting this week, automotive media from around the world will be driving the all-new fifth-generation Lexus LS 500 & LS 500h flagship sedan.

Lexus Enthusiast editor Kevin Watts will be attending the launch event tomorrow, driving the new LS and talking to both Chief Engineer Toshio Asahi and Chief Designer Kouichi Suga.

Is there something specific you would like to know about the new flagship? Are you interested in the new twin-turbo V6, or perhaps the shiatsu massage rear seats? Is the grille sharp enough to cut a finger? Can’t wait to see the LS F SPORT in Obsidian? Post your questions or comments in the forums, and we’ll do our best to answer.

(Please note — all driving impressions of the new LS are embargoed until September 26th. Mark it on your calendars!)

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Comments
  • mwyf
  • September 13, 2017
On the design front, I'd like to know why there was such a departure from the LF-FC.
Is the footwell of the rear bench really that expansive that Lexus could make do without a standard wheelbase and long wheelbase distinction.
And on the mechanical front, I'm interested in what the power deliver is like. Has Lexus managed to achieve the linearity that it favours in its naturally aspirated engines. And also the sound. Not that LS is normally graced with an engine with a throaty roar, but it'd be kind of interesting to hear what the turbo sounds like. The bog standard naturally aspirated V6 in the GS sounds half-decent.
  • CIF
    CIF
  • September 13, 2017
Are there any world-first features or technologies that have yet to be revealed?
This is exciting news!

My question:

What makes it a better car than the revel of the new Audi A8 or the updated Mercedes S500?
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What,if anything,was carried over from the previous model? I understand it was precious little?
What is the stance like is it low like we see in most online picture. also if you can share rims and tire specs
  • krew
  • September 13, 2017
Hamed Al Sayes
This is exciting news!

My question:

What makes it a better car than the revel of the new Audi A8 or the updated Mercedes S500?
It's a Lexus? :D
krew
It's a Lexus? :D
LOL! I'm jealous!

Share what strikes you most. Since it has the GAL platform, I bet it handles very well
how does it compare to old LS and how does it compare to competition - in style, function, luxury and appeal.
  • Hemi
  • September 13, 2017
Will there be LS F?
krew
It's a Lexus? :D
AGREE WITH YOU ALWAYS Krew!

But when I see those German fans, I want to know how to answer them with a WORD!!
Given the new design has more slope in pillar C, Will that reduce rear passengers headroom significantly?
mwyf
On the design front, I'd like to know why there was such a departure from the LF-FC.
The LF-FC came after this design was finalized. Look for LF-FC cues in the next LS refresh.
  • krew
  • September 13, 2017
Parked outside the hotel -- haven't been this excited about driving a car in a long while.

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krew
Parked outside the hotel -- haven't been this excited about driving a car in a long while.

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looking forward to what you think
Looks sharp in is it Atomic Silver?
On a scale, how much added handling performance can we expect from the F Sport?
my question:

are there same (mercedes magic body control system) in the new lexus LS????

are there any world-first features or technologies in the LS that have yet to be revealed?
Looks great....
krew
Parked outside the hotel -- haven't been this excited about driving a car in a long while.

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This is just PERFECTION to the EYES!!
So beautiful.
I still want to see what Krew has to say about the LS from his point of view and his answer to the questions asked on this thread.
But I found this on YouTube
And the car comes fully loaded at around $100,000.
My sales guy gave me a shout this morning with news that they're taking delivery of their first LS hybrid today. It looks stunning in person and a lot smaller than I anticipated. I particularly like the front end - Spindle grill execution is getting better and better. For those interested, it is now the centrepiece at Lexus of Richmond Hill.
what a great looking car! Lexus got this right. Love the curves / lines and the grill looks great!
  • CIF
    CIF
  • September 16, 2017
Great video thanks! This is the sort of technical stuff I've been waiting for, yet still this presentation only had partial details. Very frustrating for us Lexus fans that want the full, thorough, complete technical details on the 5LS.

Some key points I got from the video:

- door armrests, center console, and seats were all ergonomically designed together to make it feel like you're sitting in a very comfortable couch
- some interesting new varieties of available wood trim
- The new generation AVS is standard on every model
- 19/29 EPA MPG RWD, 18/27 AWD; impressive gains over the 4LS
- V35A engine makes 416HP at 6000RPM, and more impressive, 442 lb-ft torque at 1600-4800 RPM. That's a much wider, flatter torque spread than compared to the only other current Lexus turbo engine, the 8AR-FTS
- twin turbos were developed in-house (I expected nothing less)
- each direct injector in the engine has six holes
- race-derived engine technology includes laser-clad valve seats, high-strength forged connecting rod (material used not mentioned)
- 23 speaker flagship Mark Levinson audio system, 2400W power capability. That should silence some of the more preposterous audio competitors in the segment. It comes with Quantum Logic Immersion (QLI) Technology, previously only featured on high-end professional Lexicon audio equipment. Truly a world class audio system worthy of the LS.
- multi-stage hybrid still using the old 8GR engine; who knows when we will see the multi-stage hybrid system with the V35A engine.
- F-Sport package apparently not available on the hybrid unfortunately
- GA-L (TNGA-L) as expected stands for (Toyota New) Global Architecture-Luxury
- the 5LS surprisingly uses a front mid-ship layout, similar in philosophy to the LFA. Was not expecting a front mid-ship layout.
- standard 5LS has pretty large front and rear brakes; LS500 F-Sport gets very impressive high-friction 6 piston 15.7 inch front, and 4 piston 14.1 inch rear brakes. That is incredible braking power for only an F-Sport package. This is the sort of braking power you would normally see on a full F vehicle. These are bigger brakes than an AMG S 63!
- The "performance package" for the LS500 F-Sport has a very impressive combination of AVS, ASSS, VGRS, DRS, VDIM Step 6 technologies
- No powertrain-specific F-Sport upgrades, but very impressive suspension and braking upgrades
- much more sophisticated Climate Concierge system
- up to 22 way adjustable rear seats. Very impressive.

Also unbelievable that they're having this 5LS preview at Skywalker Ranch! A very unique place for a media event.
finally question

has the lexus LS VIP model?????becaus this lexus LS has 5 passenger but we dont see the 4 seat or VIP seat in this all new lexus LS
farid
finally question

has the lexus LS VIP model?????becaus this lexus LS has 5 passenger but we dont see the 4 seat or VIP seat in this all new lexus LS
I've been wondering about this since it was debuted...
I really don't think it will be offered only with 5 passengers, remembering the LF-FC concept, it had a 4 seat configuration.. could it be only offered with fuel cell LS ?
So how does the rear passenger space compare to the outgoing LS LWB? This is the most important point for the Asian market.

CIF
- standard 5LS has pretty large front and rear brakes; LS500 F-Sport gets very impressive high-friction 6 piston 15.7 inch front, and 4 piston 14.1 inch rear brakes. That is incredible braking power for only an F-Sport package. This is the sort of braking power you would normally see on a full F vehicle. These are bigger brakes than an AMG S 63!
I just can't help nitpicking this common misconception but it's for you benefit to know: bigger brakes with more pistons won't help a normal road car stop faster because it is always grip-limited. The car can't stop faster than the tyres allow. The true benefit is less pad wear and smoother pedal feel, which benefits luxury vehicles a lot since deceleration will be less jerky.

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