Lexus LFA II Megathread

[ssun30]

They had a Lexus Sport Concept virtual test drive at Japan Mobility Show, and it clearly sounded like a BEV with fake engine sounds. If the LFR had an ICE they would make it very obvious in the teaser video.

 

[DarkSpace6383]

@Gor134 we've been knew? The Lexus Sport Concept is gonna be the Lexus supercar with the TTV8.

I'll believe it when I see it.

And I was referring to the previous discourse before I sent the picture where we were talking about the debut being a week away with no teaser.

I don't think there is going to be a Lexus ICE version of the GT unless Lexus USA dealers lobbied hard enough to get a rebadged version of this car in showrooms.

And I think the Lexus Sport concept is completely unrelated to the GT, but that's just my opinion

Don’t get your hopes up. I don’t think GR is going to do Lexus any charity with that V8

I think there is a 90+ percent chance that we see the Lexus version with the same engine. They are probably following the Huracan/R8 model. Would love to see racing versions of both aswell.

 

[Levi]

99% that not….

 

[DarkSpace6383]

99% that not….

Watch the Kirk Kriefels vids.

 

[Kelvin2020]

Watch the Kirk Kriefels vids.

He is not an accurate source to rely on.

 

[LCLFV]

Kirk specializes in hopium drivel.

 

[LCLFV]

YouTube really is a cesspool...

 

[CRSKTN]

If you don't think Toyota is throwing opportunities and $ at these losers behind the scenes, I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[mikeavelli]

Here is the source as the original one is obscure. I did chat with Kirk and some outlets. I was told it’s okay to share and spread the word. This is the commercial in Japan.

I seem to be battling more haters than ever so scared to post much more. obviously I know more than most but can’t share. I also don’t know a lot so ill
be learning as well on Thursday.

You will see me shifting a bit more to GR as well….

 

[Gor134]

You will see me shifting a bit more to GR as well….

rip F

 

[CIF]

Akio hates that the LFA is the most popular Toyota performance car of all time.

I know Akio Toyoda's ongoing reign and leadership at Toyota Motor Corporation has been (and continues to be) very divisive. I know many of us (myself included) have very strong views and opinions on Akio Toyoda.

If we put our views on Akio Toyoda aside though, I'm sorry but there is zero proof of what you posted. I think this is factually incorrect. Anyone who knows the development history of the LFA knows that Akio Toyoda was critical in getting the project approved and developed. Without Akio Toyoda's support the LFA would have never existed.

Does Akio Toyoda hate how popular and legendary the LFA has become? There is zero proof of that. Does Akio Toyoda hate that the LFA was/is a Lexus? It's possible. What we do know is that the LFA project also helped birth GR. What we know is that the LFA is a Lexus in name only. The LFA driving experience is one of a raw, knife-edge supercar. It just happens to have a Lexus interior. The driving experience of the LFA is nothing like an actual Lexus. It's possible that Akio Toyoda would have wanted the LFA to be released as a Toyota like the 2000GT but market reality meant the LFA had to be released as a Lexus because of its price point.

YouTube really is a cesspool...

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Careful, there are some big defenders of 'automotive Youtube' here on these forums.

 

[mikeavelli]

Live from Toyota, GR and Lexus press and social feeds

Save the Date: Live Stream of All-New Sports Models World Premiere on December 5 - Lexus USA Newsroom

TOKYO (Dec. 2, 2025) – Toyota Motor Corporation will live stream the All-new Sports Models World Premiere from 11:00 a.m. on December 5, JST (9:00 p.m. on December 4, EST).

pressroom.lexus.com

TOKYO (Dec. 2, 2025) – Toyota Motor Corporation will live stream the All-new Sports Models World Premiere from 11:00 a.m. on December 5, JST (9:00 p.m. on December 4, EST).

The world premiere will be live streamed (with English interpretation) via the link below. After the presentation, the script, official photos, and video will be posted on this webpage.

In addition, the live stream can be watched on the official Toyota Motor Corporation YouTube channel. A reminder can be set by logging in to your YouTube account and accessing the YouTube Live URL below.

 

[sl0519]

Live from Toyota, GR and Lexus press and social feeds

Save the Date: Live Stream of All-New Sports Models World Premiere on December 5 - Lexus USA Newsroom

TOKYO (Dec. 2, 2025) – Toyota Motor Corporation will live stream the All-new Sports Models World Premiere from 11:00 a.m. on December 5, JST (9:00 p.m. on December 4, EST).

pressroom.lexus.com

TOKYO (Dec. 2, 2025) – Toyota Motor Corporation will live stream the All-new Sports Models World Premiere from 11:00 a.m. on December 5, JST (9:00 p.m. on December 4, EST).

The world premiere will be live streamed (with English interpretation) via the link below. After the presentation, the script, official photos, and video will be posted on this webpage.

In addition, the live stream can be watched on the official Toyota Motor Corporation YouTube channel. A reminder can be set by logging in to your YouTube account and accessing the YouTube Live URL below.View attachment 10766

There's no LFR, only sports concept, GR GT & GR GT3. See here

 

[Nights]

The Sports Concept is essentially the LFR now. It was the most production ready of the “concepts” shown at JMS and the fact that it’s in the teaser photo almost certainly means it’ll be a production vehicle (I hope).

 

[Gecko]

I know Akio Toyoda's ongoing reign and leadership at Toyota Motor Corporation has been (and continues to be) very divisive. I know many of us (myself included) have very strong views and opinions on Akio Toyoda.

If we put our views on Akio Toyoda aside though, I'm sorry but there is zero proof of what you posted. I think this is factually incorrect. Anyone who knows the development history of the LFA knows that Akio Toyoda was critical in getting the project approved and developed. Without Akio Toyoda's support the LFA would have never existed.

Does Akio Toyoda hate how popular and legendary the LFA has become? There is zero proof of that. Does Akio Toyoda hate that the LFA was/is a Lexus? It's possible. What we do know is that the LFA project also helped birth GR. What we know is that the LFA is a Lexus in name only. The LFA driving experience is one of a raw, knife-edge supercar. It just happens to have a Lexus interior. The driving experience of the LFA is nothing like an actual Lexus. It's possible that Akio Toyoda would have wanted the LFA to be released as a Toyota like the 2000GT but market reality meant the LFA had to be released as a Lexus because of its price point.

Not a lot I can share publicly beyond what I've said, but you can look at the dismantling of F as proof of how Akio Toyoda views Lexus performance vehicles.

 

[Kelvin2020]

Interestingly they’re already revealing the production LFR. Didn’t the concept car just debut less than half a year ago?

 

[blackjack214]

I watched a youtube video with one of leadership members from CALTY…and i think he slipped up a bit. When talking about the sport concept, he mentioned “Lexus LFR started with the electric sports concept which has evolved to this.” I think LFR was always intended to be an electric sport car but then toyota used the last brain cell they had realized that there is absolutely no market for electric supercars.

@4:30 mark

 

[CRSKTN]

I watched a youtube video with one of leadership members from CALTY…and i think he slipped up a bit. When talking about the sport concept, he mentioned “Lexus LFR started with the electric sports concept which has evolved to this.” I think LFR was always intended to be an electric sport car but then toyota used the last brain cell they had realized that there is absolutely no market for electric supercars.

@4:30 mark

It wasn't.

It wasn't even the LFR originally. I won't give it away but the final letter was different.

It has been TTV8 + Hybridized and something some of us have *known* since probably 5 years ago now?

It was not always intended to be only EV, not the way I heard from insiders about what it was and state of things. Maybe that was the long-run goal, which i'll touch on. It was meant to be a proper successor to the LFA and this was during the time of hybridized super/hyper cars being at the leading edge. At one point the idea was Hybridized Near-term -> Subsequent LFA would be 2030ish and BEV. Then the Gazoo Racing angle got shoved onto the scene and hijacked the entire thing.

Now sports offerings are an afterthought inside Lexus and real development was stolen away to Gazoo.

Akio was terrified another successful LFA would kill Toyota's ability to create a non-Lexus sports car dynasty under a brand of his making.

The first application of hybrid tech at Toyota was a racing Lexus GS, so this was I suppose an attempt at legacy building, again stopped and stolen.

 

[Gecko]

I watched a youtube video with one of leadership members from CALTY…and i think he slipped up a bit. When talking about the sport concept, he mentioned “Lexus LFR started with the electric sports concept which has evolved to this.” I think LFR was always intended to be an electric sport car but then toyota used the last brain cell they had realized that there is absolutely no market for electric supercars.

@4:30 mark

Glad you found this, I didn't see it when it was published. What he said is exactly as I understand it as well

Concept 1 - 2021 Electric Sport concept

Concept 2 - 2025 Sport Concept (refined and updated from the 2021 concept above)

Production - Lexus LFR
TBD???

 

[CRSKTN]

Anyone who knows the development history of the LFA knows that Akio Toyoda was critical in getting the project approved and developed. Without Akio Toyoda's support the LFA would have never existed.

Anyone who knows the story Toyota chose to tell.

You think anyone is going to NOT give Akio Toyoda credit for the LFA?

You think anyone ACTUALLY knows how it got approved and what the motivations were?