Lexus LFR/LFA II Megathread

[Gor134]

That was until when someone very recently told me that it won't be a Lexus rather a Toyota, I still chose to say nothing because it is clear that Toyota/Lexus made a huge about-face, and felt like it was inappropriate to leak such information.

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i thought we were friends! 💔

 

[Kelvin2020]

I was one of them. I was told a very long time ago (like... years ago) by someone away from these forums that this would be a second generation LFA.

That was until when someone very recently told me that it won't be a Lexus rather a Toyota, I still chose to say nothing because it is clear that Toyota/Lexus made a huge about-face, and felt like it was inappropriate to leak such information.

It was supposed to be a 1000 horsepower, 4.0L twin-turbocharged V8 hybrid as a Lexus, but now it's a Toyota.

In other words, the LC500 is the last internal combustion engine coupe we will see from Lexus 😔

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

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i thought we were friends! 💔

We still are. <3

In other words, the LC500 is the last internal combustion engine coupe we will see from Lexus 😔

From what it looks like... yeah.

 

[Kelvin2020]

From what it looks like... yeah.

😭😭😭

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

Also are we forgetting Toyota internally marketing the GR GT3 with a Lexus badge to the dealers and other personnel? What happened to that?

I'm also irked by that, but it really seems like they made a radical switch out of nowhere. I'm pissed off because Toyota is now purposefully pigeonholing themselves into building ICE cars for the Crown models or other Toyotas but they're all buzzy and annoying-ass 4-cylinders.

At least with Lexus there was potential hope of them coming out with a new 6-cylinder or 8-cylinder engines.

I really don't understand what's going on.

Aside from their GR cars (includes the GT3), and cars like the Corolla/Prius, and cars like the IS, GX, LC, and LS, a lot of their cars just seem so half-assed.

 

[CRSKTN]

Who said it was going to be a Lexus? Oh that's right, it's the misleading car websites!

To be fair, plans change. Ive heard the same going back years.

 

[boltzer]

I'm also irked by that, but it really seems like they made a radical switch out of nowhere. I'm pissed off because Toyota is now purposefully pigeonholing themselves into building ICE cars for the Crown models or other Toyotas but they're all buzzy and annoying-ass 4-cylinders.

At least with Lexus there was potential hope of them coming out with a new 6-cylinder or 8-cylinder engines.

I really don't understand what's going on.

Aside from their GR cars (includes the GT3), and cars like the Corolla/Prius, and cars like the IS, GX, LC, and LS, a lot of their cars just seem so half-assed.

Changing it to a Toyota is certainly...a choice. With that and the state of their longitudinal, RWD-based models, I'm not sure TMC are interested in Lexus being anything more than Toyota+, which is a good way to starve a legacy that took decades to build.

Maybe I'm just sentimental, but if it were all the same the big text in the top left of this page wouldn't read Lexus Enthusiast. Models like the ISF, GSF, and RCF only really exist under a brand like Lexus.

 

[Gecko]

In a world where we have GR Corolla, GR 86, GR Supra... I think this car will be GR branded as the flagship. Not Toyota branded.

Just my .02.

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

In a world where we have GR Corolla, GR 86, GR Supra... I think this car will be GR branded as the flagship. Not Toyota branded.

Just my .02.

I remember when people were thinking the same thing about the GR Supra, but it ended up being a Toyota (which is for the better). I expect this to be branded as a Toyota. GR is a great performance division, but it makes no sense for it to be a standalone brand.

 

[bogglo]

Looks like TMC found a way to create their own NSX and GTR finally

 

[Gor134]

I remember when people were thinking the same thing about the GR Supra

I dont remember anyone thinking that was going to be a Lexus. Reports of the BMW/Toyota collab was making headlines as early as 2012.

 

[Falcon]

If it’s not a Lexus it’ll be branded under GR without any Toyota badge.

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

I dont remember anyone thinking that was going to be a Lexus. Reports of the BMW/Toyota collab was making headlines as early as 2012.

People were saying the Toyota GR Supra would be just the GR Supra (with GR being the brand name), and have no Toyota branding.

From what I gathered of what Gecko was trying to say, he was making the point that he thinks it will be called the GR GT3, not the Toyota GR GT3.

 

[ssun30]

So the "R" in LFR does not mean "racing" but "recharge"? Maybe the LFR was always planned to be the production version of the Electrified Sports concept?

 

[Kelvin2020]

So the "R" in LFR does not mean "racing" but "recharge"? Maybe the LFR was always planned to be the production version of the Electrified Sports concept?

As we all thought LFR was the GR GT3, and the EV super car is the second gen LFA (I remember they trademark the LFA nameplate again last year).

 

[Sulu]

As we all thought LFR was the GR GT3, and the EV super car is the second gen LFA (I remember they trademark the LFA nameplate again last year).

Just because "LFA" was trademarked does not mean that the name will used again. It may have been trademarked to prevent the iconic LFA name from falling into someone other than Toyota.

That is what happened to the Ford "GT40" name: It fell out of Ford's control, and when Ford wanted it for their 2004 model, Safir GT40 Spares, which then owned the name, wanted US$40 million to licence the name to Ford.

 

[Kelvin2020]

Just because "LFA" was trademarked does not mean that the name will used again. It may have been trademarked to prevent the iconic LFA name from falling into someone other than Toyota.

That is what happened to the Ford "GT40" name: It fell out of Ford's control, and when Ford wanted it for their 2004 model, Safir GT40 Spares, which then owned the name, wanted US$40 million to licence the name to Ford.

I see, thanks for this!

 

[dylanfoos]

Quick little timeline of what we have seen trademarked…

 

[sl0519]

I was one of them. I was told a very long time ago (like... years ago) by someone away from these forums that this would be a second generation LFA.

That was until when someone very recently told me that it won't be a Lexus rather a Toyota, I still chose to say nothing because it is clear that Toyota/Lexus made a huge about-face, and felt like it was inappropriate to leak such information.

It was supposed to be a 1000 horsepower, 4.0L twin-turbocharged V8 hybrid as a Lexus, but now it's a Toyota.

what the f...I woke up just for this?
(if they think they can get away selling BEVs, I ain't buying either lol. Making big promises and failing to execute surely doesn't give me any confidence to consider this brand.)

 

[supra93]

Someone should ran these spy shots through one of those AI generators.