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Understood and we all know that the CL car chat is similar to the LE garage forum. Its suppose to be a "chat about cars in general" type of forum. However - if you stay in car chat long enough, its not really a "chat about cars in general" forum. Its more of "anything but Lexus" forum. You...

Are you referencing the thread about the Possible Stinger replacement for one of the CL members? I'll have to agree with you on that one. Its quite strange that someone would ask for recommendations and suggestions about the Stinger on a Car Chat forum on a Lexus forum. The fact that quite a bit...

Lets be fair now. MB, BMW, and Audi has been selling "car merch" since forever and have been doing clothing partnerships as well. Hell - even Ferrari has a Ferrari clothing store... Why hate on Lexus for doing what the Germans and Italians have been doing for a long time? Also - like others...

LOL. Great minds think alike. :D:fist: You brought a lot of good points too. :thumbsup: That's very true actually - I have read on Tesla forums that the door handles break super easy. There has been multiple owners that complain about the door handle and their experience of getting it fixed...

1: Yes. Those rear doors are cool. But the folding of the rear doors to help you get out in tight spaces is creation from the way the door opens. Its gull-wing doors. It takes up a lot of space - it'll need to fold regardless. I mean - you can have a regular SUV with a regular opening door and...

Its not really the numbers. Its the post quality in my opinion. Quality over quantity. The quality of the post on Club Lexus is just horrible and toxic. Its literally a bash fest over there, if you stay long enough. What's worst is that some mods promote this type of behavior. And some mods...

I was the one that said that and thank you for agreeing. :) Yes. Lexus does have a lot of catching up to do if it wants to compete with the G20 M340i. But its not that much catching up. They have the tech and engine ready already. Its a matter of if they want to create a Lexus IS400 TTV6 to...

When has someone ever compares a vehicle using lease prices? Reviews and comparisons always state the sticker prices. You state sticker price within the competition to compare to other cars with similar prices because the sticker price is fixed. Lease prices, negotiations, and etc... is...

But the thing is - in terms of competition and comparing cars together - MSRP isn't a moot point. Its the actual point. Its the relation of price, features and performance. Just because a car leases cheaper - doesn't mean we can compare those cars together. If we do that, that's effectively...

Toyota will never the 4G IS will be the size of a GS. Because if they do, they are effectively indirectly making the IS the next GS. And if that happens, the ES sales will run-over the IS sales, like it did for the GS. The problem was never the Lexus GS. The problem is the Lexus ES has become a...

While I agree with majority of the context of what you said, I want to highlight some things. A BMW can definitely be leased cheaper than a Lexus IS. But that begs the question - how optioned out is that BMW? At the end of the day - the cheapest leased BMW is the BMW with the least options. And...

In my opinion - the 3IS is a huge step up from the 2IS. While the 2IS had strong acceleration because of an aggressive gearing ratio and the competition at time was weak, it handled super poorly. The 2IS was a poor handling car. It had one of the numbest steering of any car at the time - there...

This. When comparing a car, people think consideration of price, features, and performance. This all makes the thing relative to each other. This is why the Lexus IS200T (300) is seen as a competitor to the 320i. Within that competition, the Lexus IS is a much superior car. Agreed. The Lexus IS...

I think there is a bit of confusion here. The Lexus IS200T doesn't exist anymore. Its called the Lexus IS300. Essentially - what Lexus has now is a Lexus IS200T, a detuned V6 IS300 AWD, and a Lexus IS350. The thing is - we keep looking at it from comparing it to BMW or MB perspective. We have...

No. The IS350 F-Sport isn't what I was referring to as the "Pre-Sport model". When I was talking about the "Pre-Sport Model", I was talking about the car that is before the M/AMG type cars. IE: M340i is the Pre-M3 and C43 AMG is the pre C63 AMG. "F-Sport" has always been a exterior dress up...

Of course, all respect going around, this is just a friendly chat. :) In the past - the Lexus IS250 has always marked as the base-level entry level buy while the IS350 was the top trim. Essentially - there is 2 trims levels similarity at the time - the Germans (BMW) had two trim levels too...

This is so true. I visit CL from time to time just for the sub-forums for the IS (where its still friendly). However - when I check car chat, its 100% hostile towards Lexus. You have tons and tons of BMW, Buick, KIA and MB owners there spreading word about how great their cars is and talking...

It looks much better than the pre-refresh model. But, I wish they made the "L check" or "L swoosh" longer. I think its a bit too short for my taste.

I agree with this. Revisions might happen but overall - the 8AR and 2GR are going to stay. I think people complaining (especially the people at ClubLexus) about the power within the 8AR Lexus IS300 don't really understand the point of the Lexus IS300. The Lexus IS300 has always been a...

Yes - in terms for car enthusiasts - it will fall flat on its face. But in terms of the "bean-counters" and Toyota corporate - it'll make 100% sense to recycle the engine. And 100% I hope they don't either but the business-perspective side of me know they will. Why do I think they will recycle...