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Lexus Promises 20 New Vehicles By 2025

Posted by Michael on March 30th, 2021

We are still digesting all of the news from this morning’s LF-Z Electrified concept reveal, and outside of the concept itself, one of the most exciting announcements was around Lexus’ future product plans: 20 new vehicles by 2025.

In the photo above, Koji Sato, Chief Branding Officer at Lexus, stands in front of the LF-Z Electrified as well as four covered future vehicles in the background. What might they be? First, let’s start with some other parts of today’s announcement:

  • 20 new vehicles by 2025 including battery electric vehicles (BEVs), plug-in hybrid vehicles (PHEVs), hybrid electric vehicles (HEVs) and other electric vehicles
  • Two new vehicle reveals coming this year (2021)
  • Electric versions of every model by 2025
  • New “…sports models that continue to provide the fun of driving, a car that redefines the concept of having a chauffeur, and new genres that have never before existed”

It’s clear that the Lexus we’ve known over the last few years launched an entirely new chapter today, and that starts with product. So let’s get back to those four vehicles in the photo above.

We know that the all-new NX will soon be revealed, which will be one of the new models for 2021, and likely one of the covered models above.

The RX is due for a redesign soon after the NX, though no spy photos or advance teasers have been seen yet. That could be another one of the covered models.

The ES sedan should be refreshed this year as a 2022 model to coincide with a 2019 model year launch. Would a refreshed model be included here? Maybe or maybe not.

Last, there have been early rumors about the sixth generation LS, and since the IS was just refreshed for 2021, a new LS seems to be the most likely candidate for another new sedan based on timing.

But that leaves us wondering: Where is the new LX? The two SUVs shown in the photo above are too small to be the LX, and clearly have more crossover-esque shapes. Or is the LX about to undergo a major transformation into a crossover? There’s also no promise that the two smaller covered vehicles are sedans – they could just as well be coupes, so new versions of the LC and RC are just as possible as a new ES and LS.

Here’s our best guess, from left to right: New RX, new LS, new ES, new NX. Oh, and those two new models for 2021? We assume they are the next generation NX and LX. What do you think? Give us your best guess in the Lexus Enthusiast forum.

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S
The LS does make sense. Assuming it will be here by 2025 that would make the current model about 8 yo.
Gecko
supra93 said
The LS does make sense. Assuming it will be here by 2025 that would make the current model about 8 yo.
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If Lexus goes back to a 5-6 year model cadence, a new LS could even be here before that. I have to believe one of those covered vehicles is the new NX, which will be here in just a few months.
S
Gecko said
If Lexus goes back to a 5-6 year model cadence, a new LS could even be here before that. I have to believe one of those covered vehicles is the new NX, which will be here in just a few months.
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Agree, I think LE's prediciton from let to right is spot on.

2021: NX & Facelift ES
2022: New RX
2023: New LS? XF50 = 6 year cycle
CrisB
I wonder where they would place RC anf LC
I
Woo hoo! Can't wait. On second thought, my pocketbook can wait for that Lexus that ticks my few requirements.

I am now a believer in Lexus / Toyota reliability. Just need to offer more performance-oriented trims (or keep models such as the IS or RC) not mostly based on cosmetics.
M
NX will count for two models 350h and 450h+, RZ450e is another one so 17 more to go.
Gecko
^If that is the case, NX 350 would also be a new model.
I
I guess news about the C63 belongs here instead of that LZ forum. It's looking like there will be a massive electrified turbo boost to the 2.0 4 banger.

www.caranddriver.com

Mercedes-AMG E Performance Plug-In Hybrids Will Have 800+ Horsepower

A less powerful turbo four-cylinder hybrid will power the new AMG C-class, while a hybrid twin-turbo V-8 will be saved for several future models.
www.caranddriver.com www.caranddriver.com

Mercedes-AMG's M139 turbocharged 2.0-liter four-banger currently powers the A45, CLA45, and GLA45. In those models it's mounted transversely, but in the upcoming plug-in hybrids it'll be mounted longitudinally. The hybrid four is equipped with a new electrified turbocharger that minimizes turbo lag while still offering the performance of a larger, laggier turbo. Mercedes says this internal combustion engine can make more than 442 horsepower on its own, so we can expect total output with the electric motor to be significantly higher than that.

Unlike other AMG hybrids such as the GT53 and GT43, which use an electric motor placed between the engine and nine-speed automatic, these plug-in hybrids have a permanent-magnet synchronous AC motor on the rear axle. This improves the weight distribution, among other advantages. A 4.8-kWh battery pack developed by AMG weighs 196 pounds and can provide up to 201 horsepower for up to 10 seconds, or 94 horses continuously. The rear axle carries a tw0-speed automatic transmission just for the motor and an electronically controlled limited-slip differential. All-wheel drive is standard.
S
That's a ton of parts to go wrong in 3 years. All that engineering for not much gains. A TM3P is simpler, and will beat it.
I
Will probably break down past the 4 year warranty. Some still won't adopt BEVs. Tesla may be good for eight years then time to buy a new pack. :).

I would just go for the Taycan CT for $30k more if only because the air suspension and battery plus are standard, among other things.

At least it's real sports sedan and the interior is much better than any Tesla.
mikeavelli
supra93 said
Agree, I think LE's prediciton from let to right is spot on.

2021: NX & Facelift ES
2022: New RX
2023: New LS? XF50 = 6 year cycle
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LX :)
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internalaudit said
I guess news about the C63 belongs here instead of that LZ forum. It's looking like there will be a massive electrified turbo boost to the 2.0 4 banger.

www.caranddriver.com

Mercedes-AMG E Performance Plug-In Hybrids Will Have 800+ Horsepower

A less powerful turbo four-cylinder hybrid will power the new AMG C-class, while a hybrid twin-turbo V-8 will be saved for several future models.
www.caranddriver.com www.caranddriver.com

Mercedes-AMG's M139 turbocharged 2.0-liter four-banger currently powers the A45, CLA45, and GLA45. In those models it's mounted transversely, but in the upcoming plug-in hybrids it'll be mounted longitudinally. The hybrid four is equipped with a new electrified turbocharger that minimizes turbo lag while still offering the performance of a larger, laggier turbo. Mercedes says this internal combustion engine can make more than 442 horsepower on its own, so we can expect total output with the electric motor to be significantly higher than that.

Unlike other AMG hybrids such as the GT53 and GT43, which use an electric motor placed between the engine and nine-speed automatic, these plug-in hybrids have a permanent-magnet synchronous AC motor on the rear axle. This improves the weight distribution, among other advantages. A 4.8-kWh battery pack developed by AMG weighs 196 pounds and can provide up to 201 horsepower for up to 10 seconds, or 94 horses continuously. The rear axle carries a tw0-speed automatic transmission just for the motor and an electronically controlled limited-slip differential. All-wheel drive is standard.
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I saw this, and what makes me sad is that we're moving towards a solution that's visibly more stressed and unreliable than the old power unit.

The M177 engine was actually a reliable engine and was known for being able to hold a ton of abuse. Mercedes were simply killing it in the engine department and their success there gave their AMG cars so much character. Now though? It really seems like BMW is going to outdo Mercedes when it comes to the driving experience. If the B58 is absolutely cracked up, then the S58 is on acid. It's that insane specification-wise and as a driving experience, reviewers are saying it's truly way more rev happy and responsive than the S55. Just don't look at the face of the new M3. BMW built the perfect M car in terms of specs but they blew it with the face.
maiaramdan
20 by 2025 , so that means by the end of 2024 & currently we have the following

*no minor or major in the next 3 years
ES , IS & UX
*major MK-II already leaked
NX
*major overhaul is waiting
RX , GX , LX & LM
*new registered tradename
RZ & TX


----------------NX 3 Variants
NX (ICEV)
NX (HEV)
NX (PHEV)
----------------RZ 1 Variant
RZ (BEV)
----------------RX 3 Variants
RX (ICEV)
RX (HEV)
RX (PHEV)
----------------GX 2 Variants
GX (ICEV)
GX (HEV)
----------------LX 2 Variants
LX (ICEV)
LX (HEV)
Those are 11 solid, nearly confirmed.
maybe the production LF-1 limitless in 3 or even 4 , as it maybe even 2 or 1 but anyway we will be close

And I think it's 20 international so we can put 2 for LM (HEV & ICE) maybe 3 PHEV to the previous 2 and maybe even 1 only hybrid as NA Sienna

Now the remaining will be for Sedan and Coupe
Deusex
Exciting, my RX lease ends in 2022 perfect timing for replacement. Hoping RX gets big increase in HP's thought!
Will1991
From the European Lexus Newsroom we can read (https://newsroom.lexus.eu/world-premiere-of-lf-z-electrified--a-vision-of-a-new-era-for-lexus/ ) :

"By 2025, Lexus will introduce 20 new or upgraded models, including more than 10 battery electric (BEVs), plug-in hybrid electric (PHEVs) and self-charging hybrid electric (HEVs) to meet the needs of different countries and regions around the world. It will strengthen its core sedan and SUV ranges and also explore the possibility of introducing new vehicle types, such as sports models, cars appropriate for chauffeur driving and models in entirely new categories. Throughout, Lexus will rise to the challenge of delivering new premium values, while exceeding the diverse expectations of its customers worldwide.
Lexus intends to offer electrified versions of all its models by 2025, by when it also expects electrified vehicles to account for more than half its global sales."

  • More than 10 are going to be eletrified (BEV/PHEV/HEV)
  • New "cars appropriate for chauffeur driving", am I reading here something like Bentley/Rolls Royce? The rumored Century based Lexus?
  • "models in entirely new categories" should be the RZ450e CrossOver Coupe
  • By 2025 every model will have a eletrified powertrain, LX Hybrid confirmation?
I
Will1991 said
From the European Lexus Newsroom we can read (https://newsroom.lexus.eu/world-premiere-of-lf-z-electrified--a-vision-of-a-new-era-for-lexus/ ) :

"By 2025, Lexus will introduce 20 new or upgraded models, including more than 10 battery electric (BEVs), plug-in hybrid electric (PHEVs) and self-charging hybrid electric (HEVs) to meet the needs of different countries and regions around the world. It will strengthen its core sedan and SUV ranges and also explore the possibility of introducing new vehicle types, such as sports models, cars appropriate for chauffeur driving and models in entirely new categories. Throughout, Lexus will rise to the challenge of delivering new premium values, while exceeding the diverse expectations of its customers worldwide.
Lexus intends to offer electrified versions of all its models by 2025, by when it also expects electrified vehicles to account for more than half its global sales."

  • More than 10 are going to be eletrified (BEV/PHEV/HEV)
  • New "cars appropriate for chauffeur driving", am I reading here something like Bentley/Rolls Royce? The rumored Century based Lexus?
  • "models in entirely new categories" should be the RZ450e CrossOver Coupe
  • By 2025 every model will have a eletrified powertrain, LX Hybrid confirmation?
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yosafbridge
I hope one of them is a mid-size RWD based sedan BEV/hybrid replacement for the Lexus GS.
M
I just read European release that clarifies it wont be 20 BEV/PHEV/HEV models but rather just 10. You can't come to that conclusion easily by reading US release.
S
mediumhot said
I just read European release that clarifies it wont be 20 BEV/PHEV/HEV models but rather just 10. You can't come to that conclusion easily by reading US release.
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"more than 10"

that is plenty of models, just depends on how they count them all. IE, could be:
- NX350h, NX450h+
- LX600h
- UX300h, UX300e
- RX300h, RX450h
- LS600h
- ES300h, ES450h+
- RZ450e

So without them lifting a finger, it is already 11+ new or improved.
L
I am interested in a PHEV sedan. Possibly maybe a BEV sedan but not SUV.

L