Lexus LF-1 Production Crossover to Debut in 2020?

Posted by Kevin on November 26th, 2018

Japanese website Spyder7 is reporting that Lexus will release a production version of the LF-1 Limitless crossover in 2020, just three years after the concept debuted at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show.

Powering the new flagship crossover will be the twin-turbo V6 engine from the LS 500, though Spyder7 suggests a minor power boost up to 424 horsepower. The V6 hybrid engine from the LS/LC 500h will also be used.

Added to the rumor is a production F-brand version of the LF-1, using the much-rumored twin-turbo V8 that we’ve been hearing since before the introduction of the LC coupe. In this incarnation, the LF-1 F would be putting out 661 horsepower and cost $150,000 USD, an amazing power-to-cost ratio when compared to the Lamborghini Urus with its 641 hp and $200,000 price tag.

(Bumping up the horsepower in this hypothetical engine is a smart idea — Lexus has fallen behind competitors in recent times, and could use the boost from a powertrain that outpaces the market average.)

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mikeavelli
Well the Q8 has debuted for anyone watching. I just hope this new Lexus vehicle doesn't take 3-4 years to arrive.
mikeavelli
Well the Q8 has debuted for anyone watching. I just hope this new Lexus vehicle doesn't take 3-4 years to arrive.
mikeavelli
Well the Q8 has debuted for anyone watching. I just hope this new Lexus vehicle doesn't take 3-4 years to arrive.
maiaramdan
mordecai
Guys, what if we're thinking about this all wrong?

LS - Luxury Sedan
LC - Luxury Coupe
LX - Luxury Crossover

Lexus has called the LF-1 "a new flagship luxury crossover." What if they made the LF-1 the new LX line? This would avoid having to rename the RX to the RQ and risk losing mindshare on its most popular model with a new name. All crossovers then would be under the #X moniker and Lexus would still be open to shifting them over to the RWD/GA-L platform.

What about the current LX/GX? Well, they can be placed under the new LQ/GQ line. Maybe it makes more sense to rename the rugged SUVs to a new line than having to rename the RX down the road.

With the timing of trademark filing, this is very unlikely at this point, as carmaker has stated. But what if? #thinkdifferent
Obviously
From what I heard so far
The Q will only be exclusive to L & G
For 2 reasons:
1)to still have the BOF L & G
2)to differentiate
the FWB U , N & R
From
the RWB L & G

So you will never have U , N & R with Q suffix unless they are RWB applications and you will know the BOF L & G by just the suffix either X or Q
maiaramdan
mordecai
Guys, what if we're thinking about this all wrong?

LS - Luxury Sedan
LC - Luxury Coupe
LX - Luxury Crossover

Lexus has called the LF-1 "a new flagship luxury crossover." What if they made the LF-1 the new LX line? This would avoid having to rename the RX to the RQ and risk losing mindshare on its most popular model with a new name. All crossovers then would be under the #X moniker and Lexus would still be open to shifting them over to the RWD/GA-L platform.

What about the current LX/GX? Well, they can be placed under the new LQ/GQ line. Maybe it makes more sense to rename the rugged SUVs to a new line than having to rename the RX down the road.

With the timing of trademark filing, this is very unlikely at this point, as carmaker has stated. But what if? #thinkdifferent
Obviously
From what I heard so far
The Q will only be exclusive to L & G
For 2 reasons:
1)to still have the BOF L & G
2)to differentiate
the FWB U , N & R
From
the RWB L & G

So you will never have U , N & R with Q suffix unless they are RWB applications and you will know the BOF L & G by just the suffix either X or Q
maiaramdan
mordecai
Guys, what if we're thinking about this all wrong?

LS - Luxury Sedan
LC - Luxury Coupe
LX - Luxury Crossover

Lexus has called the LF-1 "a new flagship luxury crossover." What if they made the LF-1 the new LX line? This would avoid having to rename the RX to the RQ and risk losing mindshare on its most popular model with a new name. All crossovers then would be under the #X moniker and Lexus would still be open to shifting them over to the RWD/GA-L platform.

What about the current LX/GX? Well, they can be placed under the new LQ/GQ line. Maybe it makes more sense to rename the rugged SUVs to a new line than having to rename the RX down the road.

With the timing of trademark filing, this is very unlikely at this point, as carmaker has stated. But what if? #thinkdifferent
Obviously
From what I heard so far
The Q will only be exclusive to L & G
For 2 reasons:
1)to still have the BOF L & G
2)to differentiate
the FWB U , N & R
From
the RWB L & G

So you will never have U , N & R with Q suffix unless they are RWB applications and you will know the BOF L & G by just the suffix either X or Q
F1 Silver Arrows
maiaramdan
Obviously
From what I heard so far
The Q will only be exclusive to L & G
For 2 reasons:
1)to still have the BOF L & G
2)to differentiate
the FWB U , N & R
From
the RWB L & G

So you will never have U , N & R with Q suffix unless they are RWB applications and you will know the BOF L & G by just the suffix either X or Q
That makes sense @maiaramdan. Ideally I would like N and R to be RWD based too, so it could have a Q variant on the side, and leave the U as the only FWD one (since it serves as a city crossover, it doesn't need RWD).
F1 Silver Arrows
maiaramdan
Obviously
From what I heard so far
The Q will only be exclusive to L & G
For 2 reasons:
1)to still have the BOF L & G
2)to differentiate
the FWB U , N & R
From
the RWB L & G

So you will never have U , N & R with Q suffix unless they are RWB applications and you will know the BOF L & G by just the suffix either X or Q
That makes sense @maiaramdan. Ideally I would like N and R to be RWD based too, so it could have a Q variant on the side, and leave the U as the only FWD one (since it serves as a city crossover, it doesn't need RWD).
F1 Silver Arrows
maiaramdan
Obviously
From what I heard so far
The Q will only be exclusive to L & G
For 2 reasons:
1)to still have the BOF L & G
2)to differentiate
the FWB U , N & R
From
the RWB L & G

So you will never have U , N & R with Q suffix unless they are RWB applications and you will know the BOF L & G by just the suffix either X or Q
That makes sense @maiaramdan. Ideally I would like N and R to be RWD based too, so it could have a Q variant on the side, and leave the U as the only FWD one (since it serves as a city crossover, it doesn't need RWD).
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
Joaquin Ruhi
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
Joaquin Ruhi
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
Joaquin Ruhi
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
maiaramdan
Joaquin Ruhi
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
Wow I just remembered that rumor talked about unveiling the production version of the LF-1 aka LQ at next year Tokyo

It's as if puzzle keeps solving itself
maiaramdan
Joaquin Ruhi
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
Wow I just remembered that rumor talked about unveiling the production version of the LF-1 aka LQ at next year Tokyo

It's as if puzzle keeps solving itself
maiaramdan
Joaquin Ruhi
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
Wow I just remembered that rumor talked about unveiling the production version of the LF-1 aka LQ at next year Tokyo

It's as if puzzle keeps solving itself
Carmaker1
Joaquin Ruhi
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
It depends on how early they want to start marketing it. I said at GS-F NAIAS 2015 reveal, that Lexus would reveal the LC 500 at 2016 NAIAS and a few months later (quietly discovered plans for LF-FC vs reveal, 4 months in advance), LS at NAIAS 2017.

Vehicles like this, they typically reveal really early. SC 430 was revealed pretty much in the fall of 1999, fully confirmed in April 2000 and launched in March 2001.

LS 430 was revealed on January 10, 2000, using an advanced stage prototype built in late 1999
and launched in October 2000.

4LS was displayed in October 2005 via LF-Sh, fully confirmed on January 8, 2006, and launched on September 19, 2006 JDM/October 20, 2006 for export.

LX 570 was revealed in April 2007, fully launched in January 2008.

LFA reveal was in October 2009, just 14 months after design freeze in 2008. Launch was March 2011.

LC reveal was January 11, 2016, launch was in May 2017. However, the stage of prototype shown was similar to Acura's NS-X at Chicago in February 1989 and 1999 SC 430 concept.

The LC 500 shown in January 2016 was built in the fall of 2015 and photographed in November of 2015 for press shots. Engineering sign-off wasn't until Summer 2016, so it differed from later LCs.
(Had to say this, as people (outside LE) actually think Honda made a concept last minute and then had Ayrton Senna engineer it for them from 1989 to 1991:confused:: unamused:; car was released Nov 1990 or so, locked in 1988)

LS reveal was January 9, 2017, launch was in January 2018 and February for export.

Not unexpected, but only if things stay on schedule.
Carmaker1
Joaquin Ruhi
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
It depends on how early they want to start marketing it. I said at GS-F NAIAS 2015 reveal, that Lexus would reveal the LC 500 at 2016 NAIAS and a few months later (quietly discovered plans for LF-FC vs reveal, 4 months in advance), LS at NAIAS 2017.

Vehicles like this, they typically reveal really early. SC 430 was revealed pretty much in the fall of 1999, fully confirmed in April 2000 and launched in March 2001.

LS 430 was revealed on January 10, 2000, using an advanced stage prototype built in late 1999
and launched in October 2000.

4LS was displayed in October 2005 via LF-Sh, fully confirmed on January 8, 2006, and launched on September 19, 2006 JDM/October 20, 2006 for export.

LX 570 was revealed in April 2007, fully launched in January 2008.

LFA reveal was in October 2009, just 14 months after design freeze in 2008. Launch was March 2011.

LC reveal was January 11, 2016, launch was in May 2017. However, the stage of prototype shown was similar to Acura's NS-X at Chicago in February 1989 and 1999 SC 430 concept.

The LC 500 shown in January 2016 was built in the fall of 2015 and photographed in November of 2015 for press shots. Engineering sign-off wasn't until Summer 2016, so it differed from later LCs.
(Had to say this, as people (outside LE) actually think Honda made a concept last minute and then had Ayrton Senna engineer it for them from 1989 to 1991:confused:: unamused:; car was released Nov 1990 or so, locked in 1988)

LS reveal was January 9, 2017, launch was in January 2018 and February for export.

Not unexpected, but only if things stay on schedule.
Carmaker1
Joaquin Ruhi
In light of this, do the rumors of an autumn 2019 public unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show make sense? Or is that too soon?
It depends on how early they want to start marketing it. I said at GS-F NAIAS 2015 reveal, that Lexus would reveal the LC 500 at 2016 NAIAS and a few months later (quietly discovered plans for LF-FC vs reveal, 4 months in advance), LS at NAIAS 2017.

Vehicles like this, they typically reveal really early. SC 430 was revealed pretty much in the fall of 1999, fully confirmed in April 2000 and launched in March 2001.

LS 430 was revealed on January 10, 2000, using an advanced stage prototype built in late 1999
and launched in October 2000.

4LS was displayed in October 2005 via LF-Sh, fully confirmed on January 8, 2006, and launched on September 19, 2006 JDM/October 20, 2006 for export.

LX 570 was revealed in April 2007, fully launched in January 2008.

LFA reveal was in October 2009, just 14 months after design freeze in 2008. Launch was March 2011.

LC reveal was January 11, 2016, launch was in May 2017. However, the stage of prototype shown was similar to Acura's NS-X at Chicago in February 1989 and 1999 SC 430 concept.

The LC 500 shown in January 2016 was built in the fall of 2015 and photographed in November of 2015 for press shots. Engineering sign-off wasn't until Summer 2016, so it differed from later LCs.
(Had to say this, as people (outside LE) actually think Honda made a concept last minute and then had Ayrton Senna engineer it for them from 1989 to 1991:confused:: unamused:; car was released Nov 1990 or so, locked in 1988)

LS reveal was January 9, 2017, launch was in January 2018 and February for export.

Not unexpected, but only if things stay on schedule.
S
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
thats pretty soon, all things considered... thanks for the info.
S
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
thats pretty soon, all things considered... thanks for the info.
S
Carmaker1
:praise:Yep, I was right. MY2021, due in Fall 2020. This is a fact, not a rumour. Design is reportedly locked in, so they know what the production model looks like.
thats pretty soon, all things considered... thanks for the info.
L
I know this car is not a direct competitor (it could be competitive) but here are some pics of the Rolls Royce Cullinan "3-box" interior from the configurator.




We know that CUV's are not really bought for many rational or objective reasons. Those not needing to transport big objects (a van is way way better) will benefit from such a cargo separation in terms of comfort. I really hope such an option will be available for the LQ, as is available for this Rolls Royce Cullinan, the Range Rover and the Volvo XC90. The LS does not have fully individual rear seats with fixed center console, the LQ must have such a configuration.
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I know this car is not a direct competitor (it could be competitive) but here are some pics of the Rolls Royce Cullinan "3-box" interior from the configurator.




We know that CUV's are not really bought for many rational or objective reasons. Those not needing to transport big objects (a van is way way better) will benefit from such a cargo separation in terms of comfort. I really hope such an option will be available for the LQ, as is available for this Rolls Royce Cullinan, the Range Rover and the Volvo XC90. The LS does not have fully individual rear seats with fixed center console, the LQ must have such a configuration.
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I know this car is not a direct competitor (it could be competitive) but here are some pics of the Rolls Royce Cullinan "3-box" interior from the configurator.




We know that CUV's are not really bought for many rational or objective reasons. Those not needing to transport big objects (a van is way way better) will benefit from such a cargo separation in terms of comfort. I really hope such an option will be available for the LQ, as is available for this Rolls Royce Cullinan, the Range Rover and the Volvo XC90. The LS does not have fully individual rear seats with fixed center console, the LQ must have such a configuration.

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