Lexus LF-1 Production Crossover to Debut in 2020?

Posted by Kevin on November 26th, 2018

Japanese website Spyder7 is reporting that Lexus will release a production version of the LF-1 Limitless crossover in 2020, just three years after the concept debuted at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show.

Powering the new flagship crossover will be the twin-turbo V6 engine from the LS 500, though Spyder7 suggests a minor power boost up to 424 horsepower. The V6 hybrid engine from the LS/LC 500h will also be used.

Added to the rumor is a production F-brand version of the LF-1, using the much-rumored twin-turbo V8 that we’ve been hearing since before the introduction of the LC coupe. In this incarnation, the LF-1 F would be putting out 661 horsepower and cost $150,000 USD, an amazing power-to-cost ratio when compared to the Lamborghini Urus with its 641 hp and $200,000 price tag.

(Bumping up the horsepower in this hypothetical engine is a smart idea — Lexus has fallen behind competitors in recent times, and could use the boost from a powertrain that outpaces the market average.)

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Gecko
Random thought: I assume LF-1 will be the vehicle to debut the newer generation hybrid drivetrain, be it 3.0L turbo V6 or 2.5L TT I4 + hybrid. Hopefully it will go to the LS shortly afterwards.
Gecko
Random thought: I assume LF-1 will be the vehicle to debut the newer generation hybrid drivetrain, be it 3.0L turbo V6 or 2.5L TT I4 + hybrid. Hopefully it will go to the LS shortly afterwards.
Gecko
Random thought: I assume LF-1 will be the vehicle to debut the newer generation hybrid drivetrain, be it 3.0L turbo V6 or 2.5L TT I4 + hybrid. Hopefully it will go to the LS shortly afterwards.
krew
Gecko
Random thought: I assume LF-1 will be the vehicle to debut the newer generation hybrid drivetrain, be it 3.0L turbo V6 or 2.5L TT I4 + hybrid. Hopefully it will go to the LS shortly afterwards.
With the big deal Lexus made about the LF-1 being capable of 'limitless' powertrain possibilities, there better be a new engine in the production model. I still think we see a full-electric version.
krew
Gecko
Random thought: I assume LF-1 will be the vehicle to debut the newer generation hybrid drivetrain, be it 3.0L turbo V6 or 2.5L TT I4 + hybrid. Hopefully it will go to the LS shortly afterwards.
With the big deal Lexus made about the LF-1 being capable of 'limitless' powertrain possibilities, there better be a new engine in the production model. I still think we see a full-electric version.
krew
Gecko
Random thought: I assume LF-1 will be the vehicle to debut the newer generation hybrid drivetrain, be it 3.0L turbo V6 or 2.5L TT I4 + hybrid. Hopefully it will go to the LS shortly afterwards.
With the big deal Lexus made about the LF-1 being capable of 'limitless' powertrain possibilities, there better be a new engine in the production model. I still think we see a full-electric version.
krew
Gecko
Lexus has, once again, created their own formula with the LF-1.

IMO, now that we have UX, NX, RX, RX-L and upcoming LF-1, Lexus' unibody SUV portfolio is pretty well built out.
Well done not using the LQ nameplate in your excellent post. :D
krew
Gecko
Lexus has, once again, created their own formula with the LF-1.

IMO, now that we have UX, NX, RX, RX-L and upcoming LF-1, Lexus' unibody SUV portfolio is pretty well built out.
Well done not using the LQ nameplate in your excellent post. :D
krew
Gecko
Lexus has, once again, created their own formula with the LF-1.

IMO, now that we have UX, NX, RX, RX-L and upcoming LF-1, Lexus' unibody SUV portfolio is pretty well built out.
Well done not using the LQ nameplate in your excellent post. :D
Ian Schmidt
Yeah, I expect LF-1 will introduce new powertrains (including BEV) either shortly before or alongside an LS refresh.
Ian Schmidt
Yeah, I expect LF-1 will introduce new powertrains (including BEV) either shortly before or alongside an LS refresh.
Ian Schmidt
Yeah, I expect LF-1 will introduce new powertrains (including BEV) either shortly before or alongside an LS refresh.
L
Gecko
The best chance to stand out and be unique is going to be something more rugged and tough looking though... not high performance.
CUVs/SUVs are already a quite stupid thing, but there is nothing more stupid than a high-powered gasoline race tired stiff suspended SUV... unless the sole purpose is higher survivability in case of crash, in which case high-performance SUV drivers should be the first to adopt driverless autonomous cars.
L
Gecko
The best chance to stand out and be unique is going to be something more rugged and tough looking though... not high performance.
CUVs/SUVs are already a quite stupid thing, but there is nothing more stupid than a high-powered gasoline race tired stiff suspended SUV... unless the sole purpose is higher survivability in case of crash, in which case high-performance SUV drivers should be the first to adopt driverless autonomous cars.
L
Gecko
The best chance to stand out and be unique is going to be something more rugged and tough looking though... not high performance.
CUVs/SUVs are already a quite stupid thing, but there is nothing more stupid than a high-powered gasoline race tired stiff suspended SUV... unless the sole purpose is higher survivability in case of crash, in which case high-performance SUV drivers should be the first to adopt driverless autonomous cars.
Trexus
Joaquin Ruhi
Umm... I don't think they'll be calling the small one IQ. That badge is too closely associated with Toyota's space efficiency-pioneering "Smarter, Minier" city car. Change the nomenclature to RQ for the mid-level and NQ for the entry-level and you're good to go.
I thought about that too, since Scion had the IQ maybe Lexus can use EQ instead. We'll have to wait and see how Lexus plays out this (LF-1) or these new potential Lexus models.

LQ/LQ F
GQRQ
EQ or NQ

Funny that there will be Lexus models with the letter Q. Did Johan De Nysschen come work for Lexus?
Trexus
Joaquin Ruhi
Umm... I don't think they'll be calling the small one IQ. That badge is too closely associated with Toyota's space efficiency-pioneering "Smarter, Minier" city car. Change the nomenclature to RQ for the mid-level and NQ for the entry-level and you're good to go.
I thought about that too, since Scion had the IQ maybe Lexus can use EQ instead. We'll have to wait and see how Lexus plays out this (LF-1) or these new potential Lexus models.

LQ/LQ F
GQRQ
EQ or NQ

Funny that there will be Lexus models with the letter Q. Did Johan De Nysschen come work for Lexus?
Trexus
Joaquin Ruhi
Umm... I don't think they'll be calling the small one IQ. That badge is too closely associated with Toyota's space efficiency-pioneering "Smarter, Minier" city car. Change the nomenclature to RQ for the mid-level and NQ for the entry-level and you're good to go.
I thought about that too, since Scion had the IQ maybe Lexus can use EQ instead. We'll have to wait and see how Lexus plays out this (LF-1) or these new potential Lexus models.

LQ/LQ F
GQRQ
EQ or NQ

Funny that there will be Lexus models with the letter Q. Did Johan De Nysschen come work for Lexus?
Joaquin Ruhi
Trexus
I thought about that too, since Scion had the IQ maybe Lexus can use EQ instead.
But then you get into conflict with Mercedes-Benz, which has registered the EQ trademark for its upcoming battery-electric vehicles... :confused:

Trexus
Funny that there will be Lexus models with the letter Q. Did Johan De Nysschen come work for Lexus?
LOL!
Joaquin Ruhi
Trexus
I thought about that too, since Scion had the IQ maybe Lexus can use EQ instead.
But then you get into conflict with Mercedes-Benz, which has registered the EQ trademark for its upcoming battery-electric vehicles... :confused:

Trexus
Funny that there will be Lexus models with the letter Q. Did Johan De Nysschen come work for Lexus?
LOL!
Joaquin Ruhi
Trexus
I thought about that too, since Scion had the IQ maybe Lexus can use EQ instead.
But then you get into conflict with Mercedes-Benz, which has registered the EQ trademark for its upcoming battery-electric vehicles... :confused:

Trexus
Funny that there will be Lexus models with the letter Q. Did Johan De Nysschen come work for Lexus?
LOL!
S
Gecko
With LF-1, there is no need for a high performance unibody GX. LF-1 "F" or LQ F will be that vehicle.

They could easily move GX to GA-L and just make it look tough/rugged. Toyota already has the platform and the mechanicals with TNGA-F also, so either way, they could make the idea work. The best chance to stand out and be unique is going to be something more rugged and tough looking though... not high performance.
But again LQ is flagship vehicle, it will sell at $80-$90k at minimum. So it cant compare to X5/X6/GLE price wise, it is another category.

I dont see the point of making GX look rugged but doing it on unibody. Their markets that buy Land Cruiser and LX do not need that vehicle, as we can see now.

So what they need it something higher performance than RX.
S
Gecko
With LF-1, there is no need for a high performance unibody GX. LF-1 "F" or LQ F will be that vehicle.

They could easily move GX to GA-L and just make it look tough/rugged. Toyota already has the platform and the mechanicals with TNGA-F also, so either way, they could make the idea work. The best chance to stand out and be unique is going to be something more rugged and tough looking though... not high performance.
But again LQ is flagship vehicle, it will sell at $80-$90k at minimum. So it cant compare to X5/X6/GLE price wise, it is another category.

I dont see the point of making GX look rugged but doing it on unibody. Their markets that buy Land Cruiser and LX do not need that vehicle, as we can see now.

So what they need it something higher performance than RX.
S
Gecko
With LF-1, there is no need for a high performance unibody GX. LF-1 "F" or LQ F will be that vehicle.

They could easily move GX to GA-L and just make it look tough/rugged. Toyota already has the platform and the mechanicals with TNGA-F also, so either way, they could make the idea work. The best chance to stand out and be unique is going to be something more rugged and tough looking though... not high performance.
But again LQ is flagship vehicle, it will sell at $80-$90k at minimum. So it cant compare to X5/X6/GLE price wise, it is another category.

I dont see the point of making GX look rugged but doing it on unibody. Their markets that buy Land Cruiser and LX do not need that vehicle, as we can see now.

So what they need it something higher performance than RX.
L
spwolf
But again LQ is flagship vehicle, it will sell at $80-$90k at minimum. So it cant compare to X5/X6/GLE price wise, it is another category.

I dont see the point of making GX look rugged but doing it on unibody. Their markets that buy Land Cruiser and LX do not need that vehicle, as we can see now.

So what they need it something higher performance than RX.

Once the LQ is out, expect to see reviews criticizing it for being a CUVs, or a lifted wagon, not as good looking and practical as the Germans, and for not looking like a German 'rugged' SUV.
L
spwolf
But again LQ is flagship vehicle, it will sell at $80-$90k at minimum. So it cant compare to X5/X6/GLE price wise, it is another category.

I dont see the point of making GX look rugged but doing it on unibody. Their markets that buy Land Cruiser and LX do not need that vehicle, as we can see now.

So what they need it something higher performance than RX.

Once the LQ is out, expect to see reviews criticizing it for being a CUVs, or a lifted wagon, not as good looking and practical as the Germans, and for not looking like a German 'rugged' SUV.
L
spwolf
But again LQ is flagship vehicle, it will sell at $80-$90k at minimum. So it cant compare to X5/X6/GLE price wise, it is another category.

I dont see the point of making GX look rugged but doing it on unibody. Their markets that buy Land Cruiser and LX do not need that vehicle, as we can see now.

So what they need it something higher performance than RX.

Once the LQ is out, expect to see reviews criticizing it for being a CUVs, or a lifted wagon, not as good looking and practical as the Germans, and for not looking like a German 'rugged' SUV.
S
Levi
Once the LQ is out, expect to see reviews criticizing it for being a CUVs, or a lifted wagon, not as good looking and practical as the Germans, and for not looking like a German 'rugged' SUV.
thats expected, except that nobody thinks germans have rugged SUV :)

p.s. when it comes to criticsm of Euro (mostly german owned now) press, I just read review in UK about V60 and they said interior is not up to par with german competition - where 3 has really cheap interior... lol. So some criticism will never be averted, but buyers dont get cars based on car mags anymore, or maybe ever, or else RX would have never sold so well in the first place.
S
Levi
Once the LQ is out, expect to see reviews criticizing it for being a CUVs, or a lifted wagon, not as good looking and practical as the Germans, and for not looking like a German 'rugged' SUV.
thats expected, except that nobody thinks germans have rugged SUV :)

p.s. when it comes to criticsm of Euro (mostly german owned now) press, I just read review in UK about V60 and they said interior is not up to par with german competition - where 3 has really cheap interior... lol. So some criticism will never be averted, but buyers dont get cars based on car mags anymore, or maybe ever, or else RX would have never sold so well in the first place.
S
Levi
Once the LQ is out, expect to see reviews criticizing it for being a CUVs, or a lifted wagon, not as good looking and practical as the Germans, and for not looking like a German 'rugged' SUV.
thats expected, except that nobody thinks germans have rugged SUV :)

p.s. when it comes to criticsm of Euro (mostly german owned now) press, I just read review in UK about V60 and they said interior is not up to par with german competition - where 3 has really cheap interior... lol. So some criticism will never be averted, but buyers dont get cars based on car mags anymore, or maybe ever, or else RX would have never sold so well in the first place.

S