Lexus LF-1 Production Crossover to Debut in 2020?

Posted by Kevin on November 26th, 2018

Japanese website Spyder7 is reporting that Lexus will release a production version of the LF-1 Limitless crossover in 2020, just three years after the concept debuted at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show.

Powering the new flagship crossover will be the twin-turbo V6 engine from the LS 500, though Spyder7 suggests a minor power boost up to 424 horsepower. The V6 hybrid engine from the LS/LC 500h will also be used.

Added to the rumor is a production F-brand version of the LF-1, using the much-rumored twin-turbo V8 that we’ve been hearing since before the introduction of the LC coupe. In this incarnation, the LF-1 F would be putting out 661 horsepower and cost $150,000 USD, an amazing power-to-cost ratio when compared to the Lamborghini Urus with its 641 hp and $200,000 price tag.

(Bumping up the horsepower in this hypothetical engine is a smart idea — Lexus has fallen behind competitors in recent times, and could use the boost from a powertrain that outpaces the market average.)

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R
Why 2021? It looks production ready and based on the new LS everything should be in place.

Disappointed to read the Drive review on the LS Hybrid however the author does give some praise and he is certainly not alone in his criticism of the infotainment system or the CVT. Why do Lexus not fix this every road test complains about these items - difficult to understand the reluctance of Lexus to fix these two aggravating points which come up repeatedly.

Is someone's ego at play here - fix them please.
R
Why 2021? It looks production ready and based on the new LS everything should be in place.

Disappointed to read the Drive review on the LS Hybrid however the author does give some praise and he is certainly not alone in his criticism of the infotainment system or the CVT. Why do Lexus not fix this every road test complains about these items - difficult to understand the reluctance of Lexus to fix these two aggravating points which come up repeatedly.

Is someone's ego at play here - fix them please.
R
Why 2021? It looks production ready and based on the new LS everything should be in place.

Disappointed to read the Drive review on the LS Hybrid however the author does give some praise and he is certainly not alone in his criticism of the infotainment system or the CVT. Why do Lexus not fix this every road test complains about these items - difficult to understand the reluctance of Lexus to fix these two aggravating points which come up repeatedly.

Is someone's ego at play here - fix them please.
Gecko
^I think part of it is that the LS is only about 4 months into launch, so they might not have had a chance to really react yet. If they are going to change anything substantial, it would probably have to be for the 2019 model year. Knowing Lexus, there probably won't be any changes until the refresh around 2021... but this is the LS, so maybe they will want to make moves sooner rather than later.

It sounds like the transmission needs an ECU reflash, at the very least. That actually is a very easy update that can be made on vehicles during PDI at the dealership, and the ones that have already been sold can be updated at their first oil change.

Anyway, back to LF-1...
Gecko
^I think part of it is that the LS is only about 4 months into launch, so they might not have had a chance to really react yet. If they are going to change anything substantial, it would probably have to be for the 2019 model year. Knowing Lexus, there probably won't be any changes until the refresh around 2021... but this is the LS, so maybe they will want to make moves sooner rather than later.

It sounds like the transmission needs an ECU reflash, at the very least. That actually is a very easy update that can be made on vehicles during PDI at the dealership, and the ones that have already been sold can be updated at their first oil change.

Anyway, back to LF-1...
Gecko
^I think part of it is that the LS is only about 4 months into launch, so they might not have had a chance to really react yet. If they are going to change anything substantial, it would probably have to be for the 2019 model year. Knowing Lexus, there probably won't be any changes until the refresh around 2021... but this is the LS, so maybe they will want to make moves sooner rather than later.

It sounds like the transmission needs an ECU reflash, at the very least. That actually is a very easy update that can be made on vehicles during PDI at the dealership, and the ones that have already been sold can be updated at their first oil change.

Anyway, back to LF-1...
mikeavelli
With Lexus and quality things simply take time....
mikeavelli
With Lexus and quality things simply take time....
mikeavelli
With Lexus and quality things simply take time....
meth.ix
I think the main reason they're taking so long is because they have no idea wtf to name the production model :joy::joy:
meth.ix
I think the main reason they're taking so long is because they have no idea wtf to name the production model :joy::joy:
meth.ix
I think the main reason they're taking so long is because they have no idea wtf to name the production model :joy::joy:
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 21, 2018
It is because they are figuring out how to put a new infotainment system in this SUV and it won't be ready or really ready until that year . Another model with the same stuff , not happening . Especially a well received model . It should be earlier like 2020 January. There too many new models coming by then .
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 21, 2018
It is because they are figuring out how to put a new infotainment system in this SUV and it won't be ready or really ready until that year . Another model with the same stuff , not happening . Especially a well received model . It should be earlier like 2020 January. There too many new models coming by then .
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 21, 2018
It is because they are figuring out how to put a new infotainment system in this SUV and it won't be ready or really ready until that year . Another model with the same stuff , not happening . Especially a well received model . It should be earlier like 2020 January. There too many new models coming by then .
maiaramdan
Let me sum all the logical ideas so far

1- the naming: will it be "GX or LX" successor or will it come with totally new naming

2- the new models: in the next 2 to 3 years Lexus will renew all it's sedan lineup also the RC started with the LS previous year and ES this year and maybe the IS next year with NX may match 2020 so as the RC maybe even a new generation GS as the rumored 4D coupe

3- waiting a new generation technologies to finalize adding Android Auto & Apple Carplay , new infotainment and so on

4- what will happen to the BOF SUVs in the lineup will they get a next generation both or one of them
maiaramdan
Let me sum all the logical ideas so far

1- the naming: will it be "GX or LX" successor or will it come with totally new naming

2- the new models: in the next 2 to 3 years Lexus will renew all it's sedan lineup also the RC started with the LS previous year and ES this year and maybe the IS next year with NX may match 2020 so as the RC maybe even a new generation GS as the rumored 4D coupe

3- waiting a new generation technologies to finalize adding Android Auto & Apple Carplay , new infotainment and so on

4- what will happen to the BOF SUVs in the lineup will they get a next generation both or one of them
maiaramdan
Let me sum all the logical ideas so far

1- the naming: will it be "GX or LX" successor or will it come with totally new naming

2- the new models: in the next 2 to 3 years Lexus will renew all it's sedan lineup also the RC started with the LS previous year and ES this year and maybe the IS next year with NX may match 2020 so as the RC maybe even a new generation GS as the rumored 4D coupe

3- waiting a new generation technologies to finalize adding Android Auto & Apple Carplay , new infotainment and so on

4- what will happen to the BOF SUVs in the lineup will they get a next generation both or one of them
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 22, 2018
The infotainment needs a whole revamp from top to bottom . It is one of the worst one on market , when I drive my car , I can’t look for restaurants while on the highway. One wrong move and you turn of the navigation. The LF-1 should be an addition to the line up in between the LX and GX nothing should be killed off . Maybe the name of it should be KX and call it a day .
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 22, 2018
The infotainment needs a whole revamp from top to bottom . It is one of the worst one on market , when I drive my car , I can’t look for restaurants while on the highway. One wrong move and you turn of the navigation. The LF-1 should be an addition to the line up in between the LX and GX nothing should be killed off . Maybe the name of it should be KX and call it a day .
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 22, 2018
The infotainment needs a whole revamp from top to bottom . It is one of the worst one on market , when I drive my car , I can’t look for restaurants while on the highway. One wrong move and you turn of the navigation. The LF-1 should be an addition to the line up in between the LX and GX nothing should be killed off . Maybe the name of it should be KX and call it a day .
maiaramdan
@GTG
I think it will be GX successor better fit the sporty side
Note that the LF-X was supposed also to be a GX as sporty RWD based unibody CUV which this LF-1 fit well, maybe even the rumored TX, but until now no one out of Lexus knows what they will do with the GX, deleted it completely or give it a new BOF generation based on the next Prado or completely overhauled it with a production model of this LF-1 concept
maiaramdan
@GTG
I think it will be GX successor better fit the sporty side
Note that the LF-X was supposed also to be a GX as sporty RWD based unibody CUV which this LF-1 fit well, maybe even the rumored TX, but until now no one out of Lexus knows what they will do with the GX, deleted it completely or give it a new BOF generation based on the next Prado or completely overhauled it with a production model of this LF-1 concept
maiaramdan
@GTG
I think it will be GX successor better fit the sporty side
Note that the LF-X was supposed also to be a GX as sporty RWD based unibody CUV which this LF-1 fit well, maybe even the rumored TX, but until now no one out of Lexus knows what they will do with the GX, deleted it completely or give it a new BOF generation based on the next Prado or completely overhauled it with a production model of this LF-1 concept
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 22, 2018
The GX is a great suv , replacement of something that has its own market and let’s not forget reliability, may not happen . All people want things that don’t break and having five suv’s To sell is always better than four . Benz has 8 , BMW has 7 , Audi has 3 and they have another 3 on the way . Let’s see even if not continued in the US where the market is SUV first ,second, third , and on it will sell in some other part of the world . You could be right but at the rate SUV are going , the car with four doors may fade in many many years to come in big markets .
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 22, 2018
The GX is a great suv , replacement of something that has its own market and let’s not forget reliability, may not happen . All people want things that don’t break and having five suv’s To sell is always better than four . Benz has 8 , BMW has 7 , Audi has 3 and they have another 3 on the way . Let’s see even if not continued in the US where the market is SUV first ,second, third , and on it will sell in some other part of the world . You could be right but at the rate SUV are going , the car with four doors may fade in many many years to come in big markets .
GTG
  • GTG
    GTG
  • March 22, 2018
The GX is a great suv , replacement of something that has its own market and let’s not forget reliability, may not happen . All people want things that don’t break and having five suv’s To sell is always better than four . Benz has 8 , BMW has 7 , Audi has 3 and they have another 3 on the way . Let’s see even if not continued in the US where the market is SUV first ,second, third , and on it will sell in some other part of the world . You could be right but at the rate SUV are going , the car with four doors may fade in many many years to come in big markets .
maiaramdan
@GTG
We are just taking assumptions, but there was a lot of rumors pre the last GX facelift that it will be discountined

And maybe the next Prado will be offered in NA beside the next 4 Runner on the new TNGA - BOF derivative as one of them luxurious (Prado) and the other true off roader (4-Runner)
maiaramdan
@GTG
We are just taking assumptions, but there was a lot of rumors pre the last GX facelift that it will be discountined

And maybe the next Prado will be offered in NA beside the next 4 Runner on the new TNGA - BOF derivative as one of them luxurious (Prado) and the other true off roader (4-Runner)
maiaramdan
@GTG
We are just taking assumptions, but there was a lot of rumors pre the last GX facelift that it will be discountined

And maybe the next Prado will be offered in NA beside the next 4 Runner on the new TNGA - BOF derivative as one of them luxurious (Prado) and the other true off roader (4-Runner)

M