Lexus LF-1 Production Crossover to Debut in 2020?

Posted by Kevin on November 26th, 2018

Japanese website Spyder7 is reporting that Lexus will release a production version of the LF-1 Limitless crossover in 2020, just three years after the concept debuted at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show.

Powering the new flagship crossover will be the twin-turbo V6 engine from the LS 500, though Spyder7 suggests a minor power boost up to 424 horsepower. The V6 hybrid engine from the LS/LC 500h will also be used.

Added to the rumor is a production F-brand version of the LF-1, using the much-rumored twin-turbo V8 that we’ve been hearing since before the introduction of the LC coupe. In this incarnation, the LF-1 F would be putting out 661 horsepower and cost $150,000 USD, an amazing power-to-cost ratio when compared to the Lamborghini Urus with its 641 hp and $200,000 price tag.

(Bumping up the horsepower in this hypothetical engine is a smart idea — Lexus has fallen behind competitors in recent times, and could use the boost from a powertrain that outpaces the market average.)

Lexus LF-1 Limitless

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A
Finally a good reason for me to wait on this instead of buying a Q8.
OlFius
Airplane
Finally a good reason for me to wait on this instead of buying a Q8.
The wait can take a very long time. But it is worth it.
Gecko
I really love that render, too. I hope the production model is close to that!
Daniel Guyton
been working for lexus for a while now......all i see is rumors, a lot of marketing, some disappointments and no overly positive results... :-( still hoping though....
GSCT
Finally Lexus leads instead of following. A fabulous car, but they want to make sure it isn’t too pricey.
Gecko
I think an estimate of $150k for LQ F is a little unrealistic. If the base LQ is priced somewhere around $85k (in between the other flagships, LS, LX and LC), I cannot fathom why an F model would cost nearly double. IMO, base of $85k is even a little high for a car like this... the sweet spot would be something around $75k base because it creates a logical "step up" from upper end RX and GX, can catch fleeing GS owners and opens up a whole new demographic for Lexus: Range Rover Sport, Cayenne, X5/X6, Mercedes GLE43/GLE43 Coupe, Maserati Levante and others. $85k is a lot of cash and $10k+ more than the base for those competitors. This car still needs to have a volume business case behind it, plus Lexus' recent forays into the realm of $75k+ have not been particularly fruitful.

I don't see why the F model should start at more than $115-120k. After all, this is Lexus and they are a practical company.

Dropping the GS, replacing the SC with the RC, and the GX going on ten years unchanged impacts the middle tier of Lexus' lineup... and you start to lose the ability to graduate consumers from that tier upwards. A lot of them will have already left, meaning Lexus needs to attract a net-new customer at this price point. There is a huge gap between $40k ES and $75k LS, and similarly, there would be a huge gap between $44k RX and $85k LQ.
B
This is going to be a smash hit. This answers alot of questions....

1) we know the 3.5 liter TTV6 will be getting a boost and also the TTV8 will have at least 660hp.
2) we now no that the base LS or any base car for that matter will have a V8 it will only be offered in the F varients.
krew
Gecko
I don't see why the F model should start at more than $115-120k. After all, this is Lexus and they are a practical company.
The price does seem high, but this is likely down to the Japanese source and the difference in country's MSRP. Your price seems about right to me. Can't see Lexus going all the way to $150k, even with 660 horsepower.
M
Are you guys so sure F model will be non-hybrid?
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Gecko
I think an estimate of $150k for LQ F is a little unrealistic. If the base LQ is priced somewhere around $85k (in between the other flagships, LS, LX and LC), I cannot fathom why an F model would cost nearly double. IMO, base of $85k is even a little high for a car like this... the sweet spot would be something around $75k base because it creates a logical "step up" from upper end RX and GX
no.

If it is going to be LS CUV, then it will start at least 5k over LS. It is not going to be cheaper.

What you will see on the other end is that RX and future GX will likely start getting even higher trims and engines and prices in the future.
Or maybe they make sportier version of RX like Audi did Q8. Or maybe new GX will become that in-between model, properly.
maiaramdan
@Gecko / @krew
I know that my words seems unlogic, but business wise the 140k - 150k is the right choice, already the normal and hybrid models from both LC & LS can reach the +100k,
plus if we are the offers not from Lambos or Porsche but from AMG & M we will see that the 3 flagship Fs will match with them,
also I think who ever have 120+k for a vehicle can already pay 140k to 150k,
another thing, I feel we will see GQ very soon maybe just the year after the LQ as the crossover RWD based , with the same relation between it and the GX as the LQ & the LX , as suffix Q is only for the L & G
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mediumhot
Are you guys so sure F model will be non-hybrid?
There's nothing certain yet. I haven't seen anything official on a production model.

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