Photo Gallery: Lexus UX 250h in Nebula Gray Pearl

OlFius

It is not about a cost price, but about functionality.
We use our smarthphone and/or a usb stick nowadays...
Looks like the 90's. That's all.

so use your smartphone and usb stick? There is wireless charger and at least 2 usb ports at front and 2 at the back. I dont see what extra functionality do you get if you remove cd drive because Lexus will save $20.

spwolf

so use your smartphone and usb stick? There is wireless charger and at least 2 usb ports at front and 2 at the back. I dont see what extra functionality do you get if you remove cd drive because Lexus will save $20.

You actually give the answer already. If there is so much better alternative.
That space on the dashboard could be used differently.
So, and why not a cassette player, that is becoming a hype again.

spwolf

so use your smartphone and usb stick? There is wireless charger and at least 2 usb ports at front and 2 at the back. I dont see what extra functionality do you get if you remove cd drive because Lexus will save $20.

You actually give the answer already. If there is so much better alternative.
That space on the dashboard could be used differently.
So, and why not a cassette player, that is becoming a hype again.

spwolf

so use your smartphone and usb stick? There is wireless charger and at least 2 usb ports at front and 2 at the back. I dont see what extra functionality do you get if you remove cd drive because Lexus will save $20.

You actually give the answer already. If there is so much better alternative.
That space on the dashboard could be used differently.
So, and why not a cassette player, that is becoming a hype again.

spwolf

so use your smartphone and usb stick? There is wireless charger and at least 2 usb ports at front and 2 at the back. I dont see what extra functionality do you get if you remove cd drive because Lexus will save $20.

You actually give the answer already. If there is so much better alternative.
That space on the dashboard could be used differently.
So, and why not a cassette player, that is becoming a hype again.

OlFius

You actually give the answer already. If there is so much better alternative.
That space on the dashboard could be used differently.
So, and why not a cassette player, that is becoming a hype again.

I would guess because cassette tapes are not around 30% of the music sales in the US and more in Europe and other countries (like CDs).

As a recent article said (la times 4 days ago):

"Our industry is global, and CDs remain an important way for people buy music in some of the world's biggest markets like Japan, Germany and France," Resnikoff wrote. "As long as there are music fans who want CDs and vinyl, and there are plenty of those customers out there, we will make sure our music is available in those formats."

Edit, in 2016 75% rated CD as more wanted feature than bluetooth, few months ago in survey more people listened via CDs than streaming.

Then again, a 2016 survey from IHS found that 75% of respondents listed a CD player as a desirable automobile feature, beating out Bluetooth, voice recognition, and a touchscreen. Another survey by Nielsen, from last September, found that CDs still accounted for 33% of music listening in the car, behind only radio and a device with downloaded music (such as an iPod). Streaming music from a phone or other device with a data plan was far behind at 14%.

OlFius

You actually give the answer already. If there is so much better alternative.
That space on the dashboard could be used differently.
So, and why not a cassette player, that is becoming a hype again.

I would guess because cassette tapes are not around 30% of the music sales in the US and more in Europe and other countries (like CDs).

As a recent article said (la times 4 days ago):

"Our industry is global, and CDs remain an important way for people buy music in some of the world's biggest markets like Japan, Germany and France," Resnikoff wrote. "As long as there are music fans who want CDs and vinyl, and there are plenty of those customers out there, we will make sure our music is available in those formats."

Edit, in 2016 75% rated CD as more wanted feature than bluetooth, few months ago in survey more people listened via CDs than streaming.

Then again, a 2016 survey from IHS found that 75% of respondents listed a CD player as a desirable automobile feature, beating out Bluetooth, voice recognition, and a touchscreen. Another survey by Nielsen, from last September, found that CDs still accounted for 33% of music listening in the car, behind only radio and a device with downloaded music (such as an iPod). Streaming music from a phone or other device with a data plan was far behind at 14%.

OlFius

You actually give the answer already. If there is so much better alternative.
That space on the dashboard could be used differently.
So, and why not a cassette player, that is becoming a hype again.

I would guess because cassette tapes are not around 30% of the music sales in the US and more in Europe and other countries (like CDs).

As a recent article said (la times 4 days ago):

"Our industry is global, and CDs remain an important way for people buy music in some of the world's biggest markets like Japan, Germany and France," Resnikoff wrote. "As long as there are music fans who want CDs and vinyl, and there are plenty of those customers out there, we will make sure our music is available in those formats."

Edit, in 2016 75% rated CD as more wanted feature than bluetooth, few months ago in survey more people listened via CDs than streaming.

Then again, a 2016 survey from IHS found that 75% of respondents listed a CD player as a desirable automobile feature, beating out Bluetooth, voice recognition, and a touchscreen. Another survey by Nielsen, from last September, found that CDs still accounted for 33% of music listening in the car, behind only radio and a device with downloaded music (such as an iPod). Streaming music from a phone or other device with a data plan was far behind at 14%.

OlFius

You actually give the answer already. If there is so much better alternative.
That space on the dashboard could be used differently.
So, and why not a cassette player, that is becoming a hype again.

I would guess because cassette tapes are not around 30% of the music sales in the US and more in Europe and other countries (like CDs).

As a recent article said (la times 4 days ago):

"Our industry is global, and CDs remain an important way for people buy music in some of the world's biggest markets like Japan, Germany and France," Resnikoff wrote. "As long as there are music fans who want CDs and vinyl, and there are plenty of those customers out there, we will make sure our music is available in those formats."

Edit, in 2016 75% rated CD as more wanted feature than bluetooth, few months ago in survey more people listened via CDs than streaming.

Then again, a 2016 survey from IHS found that 75% of respondents listed a CD player as a desirable automobile feature, beating out Bluetooth, voice recognition, and a touchscreen. Another survey by Nielsen, from last September, found that CDs still accounted for 33% of music listening in the car, behind only radio and a device with downloaded music (such as an iPod). Streaming music from a phone or other device with a data plan was far behind at 14%.

Gecko

For comparison:











How could you ever purchase UX over either of these two - especially the Volvo? I couldn't.

I do. I prefer this UX, a lot. And even if I work for Lexus, I haven't got the occasion yet to see the UX in the flesh, which will make my judgement even more extreme. The UX shows enough original design aspects to stand out of the crowd without being too bizarre like the concept version.
The BMW is very old fashioned in its design, interior and exterior, because it never changes. The same design, generation after generation. The Volvo XC40 is rather original, but this XC40 lacks the stylish standing of bigger sisters XC60 and 90. The interior looks fine, but shows a lot of hard plastics in reality (just like the Jaguar E-Pace interior).

Coming back on the BMW models: it strikes me that every time I see a new BMW, it looks like the previous version. And they all look alike. Very boring. Same issue at Audi and Mercedes. The designers working at those German 3 have the easiest job on earth. Or the most difficult one, if you look at it differently :laughing:
At Lexus, all models have some family aspects, but no single Lexus model is a copy of another Lexus. Exterior nor interior. So kudos to Lexus for bringing us some different luxury!

Frankly, I am a bit surprised being one of the few that like the UX. I don't understand all these negative comments here. Or did you all really seriously expected that this model would be an LC 500 on high heels?:confused:

Gecko

For comparison:











How could you ever purchase UX over either of these two - especially the Volvo? I couldn't.

I do. I prefer this UX, a lot. And even if I work for Lexus, I haven't got the occasion yet to see the UX in the flesh, which will make my judgement even more extreme. The UX shows enough original design aspects to stand out of the crowd without being too bizarre like the concept version.
The BMW is very old fashioned in its design, interior and exterior, because it never changes. The same design, generation after generation. The Volvo XC40 is rather original, but this XC40 lacks the stylish standing of bigger sisters XC60 and 90. The interior looks fine, but shows a lot of hard plastics in reality (just like the Jaguar E-Pace interior).

Coming back on the BMW models: it strikes me that every time I see a new BMW, it looks like the previous version. And they all look alike. Very boring. Same issue at Audi and Mercedes. The designers working at those German 3 have the easiest job on earth. Or the most difficult one, if you look at it differently :laughing:
At Lexus, all models have some family aspects, but no single Lexus model is a copy of another Lexus. Exterior nor interior. So kudos to Lexus for bringing us some different luxury!

Frankly, I am a bit surprised being one of the few that like the UX. I don't understand all these negative comments here. Or did you all really seriously expected that this model would be an LC 500 on high heels?:confused:

Gecko

For comparison:











How could you ever purchase UX over either of these two - especially the Volvo? I couldn't.

I do. I prefer this UX, a lot. And even if I work for Lexus, I haven't got the occasion yet to see the UX in the flesh, which will make my judgement even more extreme. The UX shows enough original design aspects to stand out of the crowd without being too bizarre like the concept version.
The BMW is very old fashioned in its design, interior and exterior, because it never changes. The same design, generation after generation. The Volvo XC40 is rather original, but this XC40 lacks the stylish standing of bigger sisters XC60 and 90. The interior looks fine, but shows a lot of hard plastics in reality (just like the Jaguar E-Pace interior).

Coming back on the BMW models: it strikes me that every time I see a new BMW, it looks like the previous version. And they all look alike. Very boring. Same issue at Audi and Mercedes. The designers working at those German 3 have the easiest job on earth. Or the most difficult one, if you look at it differently :laughing:
At Lexus, all models have some family aspects, but no single Lexus model is a copy of another Lexus. Exterior nor interior. So kudos to Lexus for bringing us some different luxury!

Frankly, I am a bit surprised being one of the few that like the UX. I don't understand all these negative comments here. Or did you all really seriously expected that this model would be an LC 500 on high heels?:confused:

Gecko

For comparison:











How could you ever purchase UX over either of these two - especially the Volvo? I couldn't.

I do. I prefer this UX, a lot. And even if I work for Lexus, I haven't got the occasion yet to see the UX in the flesh, which will make my judgement even more extreme. The UX shows enough original design aspects to stand out of the crowd without being too bizarre like the concept version.
The BMW is very old fashioned in its design, interior and exterior, because it never changes. The same design, generation after generation. The Volvo XC40 is rather original, but this XC40 lacks the stylish standing of bigger sisters XC60 and 90. The interior looks fine, but shows a lot of hard plastics in reality (just like the Jaguar E-Pace interior).

Coming back on the BMW models: it strikes me that every time I see a new BMW, it looks like the previous version. And they all look alike. Very boring. Same issue at Audi and Mercedes. The designers working at those German 3 have the easiest job on earth. Or the most difficult one, if you look at it differently :laughing:
At Lexus, all models have some family aspects, but no single Lexus model is a copy of another Lexus. Exterior nor interior. So kudos to Lexus for bringing us some different luxury!

Frankly, I am a bit surprised being one of the few that like the UX. I don't understand all these negative comments here. Or did you all really seriously expected that this model would be an LC 500 on high heels?:confused:

As a recent article said (la times 4 days ago):
Edit, in 2016 75% rated CD as more wanted feature than bluetooth, few months ago in survey more people listened via CDs than streaming.

I also buy CD / DVD's, that's not the point, but I do not take it with me in my car.
I want to listen to that music both in the car and at home, so the smartphone / usb is an excellent solution. And let us be honest, CDs are not practical in a car.

As a recent article said (la times 4 days ago):
Edit, in 2016 75% rated CD as more wanted feature than bluetooth, few months ago in survey more people listened via CDs than streaming.

I also buy CD / DVD's, that's not the point, but I do not take it with me in my car.
I want to listen to that music both in the car and at home, so the smartphone / usb is an excellent solution. And let us be honest, CDs are not practical in a car.

As a recent article said (la times 4 days ago):
Edit, in 2016 75% rated CD as more wanted feature than bluetooth, few months ago in survey more people listened via CDs than streaming.

I also buy CD / DVD's, that's not the point, but I do not take it with me in my car.
I want to listen to that music both in the car and at home, so the smartphone / usb is an excellent solution. And let us be honest, CDs are not practical in a car.

As a recent article said (la times 4 days ago):
Edit, in 2016 75% rated CD as more wanted feature than bluetooth, few months ago in survey more people listened via CDs than streaming.

I also buy CD / DVD's, that's not the point, but I do not take it with me in my car.
I want to listen to that music both in the car and at home, so the smartphone / usb is an excellent solution. And let us be honest, CDs are not practical in a car.

Joe

Coming back on the BMW models: it strikes me that every time I see a new BMW, it looks like the previous version. And they all look alike. Very boring. Same issue at Audi and Mercedes. The designers working at those German 3 have the easiest job on earth. Or the most difficult one, if you look at it differently :laughing:
At Lexus, all models have some family aspects, but no single Lexus model is a copy of another Lexus. Exterior nor interior. So kudos to Lexus for bringing us some different luxury!

Hi Joe,

you're right when you talk about the Germans, with the exception of Mercedes, who dare to renew in recent years, as today the Mercedes-AMG GT has been proposed.

Joe

Coming back on the BMW models: it strikes me that every time I see a new BMW, it looks like the previous version. And they all look alike. Very boring. Same issue at Audi and Mercedes. The designers working at those German 3 have the easiest job on earth. Or the most difficult one, if you look at it differently :laughing:
At Lexus, all models have some family aspects, but no single Lexus model is a copy of another Lexus. Exterior nor interior. So kudos to Lexus for bringing us some different luxury!

Hi Joe,

you're right when you talk about the Germans, with the exception of Mercedes, who dare to renew in recent years, as today the Mercedes-AMG GT has been proposed.

Joe

Coming back on the BMW models: it strikes me that every time I see a new BMW, it looks like the previous version. And they all look alike. Very boring. Same issue at Audi and Mercedes. The designers working at those German 3 have the easiest job on earth. Or the most difficult one, if you look at it differently :laughing:
At Lexus, all models have some family aspects, but no single Lexus model is a copy of another Lexus. Exterior nor interior. So kudos to Lexus for bringing us some different luxury!

Hi Joe,

you're right when you talk about the Germans, with the exception of Mercedes, who dare to renew in recent years, as today the Mercedes-AMG GT has been proposed.

Joe

Coming back on the BMW models: it strikes me that every time I see a new BMW, it looks like the previous version. And they all look alike. Very boring. Same issue at Audi and Mercedes. The designers working at those German 3 have the easiest job on earth. Or the most difficult one, if you look at it differently :laughing:
At Lexus, all models have some family aspects, but no single Lexus model is a copy of another Lexus. Exterior nor interior. So kudos to Lexus for bringing us some different luxury!

Hi Joe,

you're right when you talk about the Germans, with the exception of Mercedes, who dare to renew in recent years, as today the Mercedes-AMG GT has been proposed.

OlFius

Hi Joe,

you're right when you talk about the Germans, with the exception of Mercedes, who dare to renew in recent years, as today the Mercedes-AMG GT has been proposed.

Correct, Mercedes has renewed its style in recent years (and positively, in my opinion), but I feel most of the models now look the same again. It's sometimes hard for me to separate C sedan from E sedan or even S at a distance. The same comparing C and E estate versions, or GLC coupe compared with GLE coupe... Nice cars, but not a lot of personality. And then I don't even talk about the interior, with this big horizontal digital tablet coming back on every dashboard... ;)

OlFius

Hi Joe,

you're right when you talk about the Germans, with the exception of Mercedes, who dare to renew in recent years, as today the Mercedes-AMG GT has been proposed.

Correct, Mercedes has renewed its style in recent years (and positively, in my opinion), but I feel most of the models now look the same again. It's sometimes hard for me to separate C sedan from E sedan or even S at a distance. The same comparing C and E estate versions, or GLC coupe compared with GLE coupe... Nice cars, but not a lot of personality. And then I don't even talk about the interior, with this big horizontal digital tablet coming back on every dashboard... ;)

OlFius

Hi Joe,

you're right when you talk about the Germans, with the exception of Mercedes, who dare to renew in recent years, as today the Mercedes-AMG GT has been proposed.

Correct, Mercedes has renewed its style in recent years (and positively, in my opinion), but I feel most of the models now look the same again. It's sometimes hard for me to separate C sedan from E sedan or even S at a distance. The same comparing C and E estate versions, or GLC coupe compared with GLE coupe... Nice cars, but not a lot of personality. And then I don't even talk about the interior, with this big horizontal digital tablet coming back on every dashboard... ;)

OlFius

Hi Joe,

you're right when you talk about the Germans, with the exception of Mercedes, who dare to renew in recent years, as today the Mercedes-AMG GT has been proposed.

Correct, Mercedes has renewed its style in recent years (and positively, in my opinion), but I feel most of the models now look the same again. It's sometimes hard for me to separate C sedan from E sedan or even S at a distance. The same comparing C and E estate versions, or GLC coupe compared with GLE coupe... Nice cars, but not a lot of personality. And then I don't even talk about the interior, with this big horizontal digital tablet coming back on every dashboard... ;)

Gecko

How could you ever purchase UX over either of these two - especially the Volvo? I couldn't.

The Beemer is nothing new, and the interior looks cheap and cramped. The Volvo I think has a similar setup to the UX - both have a workable exterior that's a simplified version of their upscale models, and both have a better-than-class interior. But Lexus IMO is the higher-end brand of the two, and I think snobbery looms large in this class so I give the tiebreaker to the UX.

Gecko

How could you ever purchase UX over either of these two - especially the Volvo? I couldn't.

The Beemer is nothing new, and the interior looks cheap and cramped. The Volvo I think has a similar setup to the UX - both have a workable exterior that's a simplified version of their upscale models, and both have a better-than-class interior. But Lexus IMO is the higher-end brand of the two, and I think snobbery looms large in this class so I give the tiebreaker to the UX.

Gecko

How could you ever purchase UX over either of these two - especially the Volvo? I couldn't.

The Beemer is nothing new, and the interior looks cheap and cramped. The Volvo I think has a similar setup to the UX - both have a workable exterior that's a simplified version of their upscale models, and both have a better-than-class interior. But Lexus IMO is the higher-end brand of the two, and I think snobbery looms large in this class so I give the tiebreaker to the UX.

Gecko

How could you ever purchase UX over either of these two - especially the Volvo? I couldn't.

The Beemer is nothing new, and the interior looks cheap and cramped. The Volvo I think has a similar setup to the UX - both have a workable exterior that's a simplified version of their upscale models, and both have a better-than-class interior. But Lexus IMO is the higher-end brand of the two, and I think snobbery looms large in this class so I give the tiebreaker to the UX.

Ian Schmidt

The Beemer is nothing new, and the interior looks cheap and cramped. The Volvo I think has a similar setup to the UX - both have a workable exterior that's a simplified version of their upscale models, and both have a better-than-class interior. But Lexus IMO is the higher-end brand of the two, and I think snobbery looms large in this class so I give the tiebreaker to the UX.

After seeing XC40 normal interiors (not base, not fully optioned), it is nowhere close to this. But styling of exterior is certainly more purposeful overall.