Photo Gallery: Lexus UX 250h in Nebula Gray Pearl

arrow1982

So it will be the 2AZ-FXE hybrid from the HS250h...

No it won't. That drivetrain went out of production along with HS250h/Toyota SAI last November. It's unfathomable that Lexus use a hybrid drivetrain from the last decade on its most important product.

Levi

Whatever 250h is, we know it will be at least HEV, if not PHEV, but I hope the ICE is turbocharged, because while TMC has turbocharged engines, they have never yet been combined with hybrid tech, which always uses naturally aspirated engines.

I don't think a turbo-hybrid will happen until the next-gen Prius. The nature of hybrid drivetrain prefers an ICE with the lowest BSFC possible; so far that title is still held by naturally aspirated engines. A turbocharged motor is not going to give any improvement to MPG (on hybrids) at this stage.

arrow1982

So it will be the 2AZ-FXE hybrid from the HS250h...

No it won't. That drivetrain went out of production along with HS250h/Toyota SAI last November. It's unfathomable that Lexus use a hybrid drivetrain from the last decade on its most important product.

Levi

Whatever 250h is, we know it will be at least HEV, if not PHEV, but I hope the ICE is turbocharged, because while TMC has turbocharged engines, they have never yet been combined with hybrid tech, which always uses naturally aspirated engines.

I don't think a turbo-hybrid will happen until the next-gen Prius. The nature of hybrid drivetrain prefers an ICE with the lowest BSFC possible; so far that title is still held by naturally aspirated engines. A turbocharged motor is not going to give any improvement to MPG (on hybrids) at this stage.

arrow1982

So it will be the 2AZ-FXE hybrid from the HS250h...

No it won't. That drivetrain went out of production along with HS250h/Toyota SAI last November. It's unfathomable that Lexus use a hybrid drivetrain from the last decade on its most important product.

Levi

Whatever 250h is, we know it will be at least HEV, if not PHEV, but I hope the ICE is turbocharged, because while TMC has turbocharged engines, they have never yet been combined with hybrid tech, which always uses naturally aspirated engines.

I don't think a turbo-hybrid will happen until the next-gen Prius. The nature of hybrid drivetrain prefers an ICE with the lowest BSFC possible; so far that title is still held by naturally aspirated engines. A turbocharged motor is not going to give any improvement to MPG (on hybrids) at this stage.

ssun30

No it won't. That drivetrain went out of production along with HS250h/Toyota SAI last November.

Wow! I hadn't heard that Lexus HS and Toyota Sai had already gone out of production. Sure enough, Wikipedia says that "On November 15, 2017, the Sai was discontinued and integrated with the XV70 Camry". And a page on Lexus Japan's English-language International site states that "Sales of the HS ended on Monday, December 11, 2017".

ssun30

No it won't. That drivetrain went out of production along with HS250h/Toyota SAI last November.

Wow! I hadn't heard that Lexus HS and Toyota Sai had already gone out of production. Sure enough, Wikipedia says that "On November 15, 2017, the Sai was discontinued and integrated with the XV70 Camry". And a page on Lexus Japan's English-language International site states that "Sales of the HS ended on Monday, December 11, 2017".

ssun30

No it won't. That drivetrain went out of production along with HS250h/Toyota SAI last November.

Wow! I hadn't heard that Lexus HS and Toyota Sai had already gone out of production. Sure enough, Wikipedia says that "On November 15, 2017, the Sai was discontinued and integrated with the XV70 Camry". And a page on Lexus Japan's English-language International site states that "Sales of the HS ended on Monday, December 11, 2017".

Looks good so far. Thankfully the radical look of the concept has been toned down quite a bit. Hopefully the front will not be nearly as radical as the concept either.

Looks good so far. Thankfully the radical look of the concept has been toned down quite a bit. Hopefully the front will not be nearly as radical as the concept either.

Looks good so far. Thankfully the radical look of the concept has been toned down quite a bit. Hopefully the front will not be nearly as radical as the concept either.

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

isanatori

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

OK no problem.
Your concerns will be transferred to Lexus, but maybe we'll wait a little longer before we see the end result? For certain comments it is now too late.:relieved:

isanatori

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

OK no problem.
Your concerns will be transferred to Lexus, but maybe we'll wait a little longer before we see the end result? For certain comments it is now too late.:relieved:

isanatori

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

OK no problem.
Your concerns will be transferred to Lexus, but maybe we'll wait a little longer before we see the end result? For certain comments it is now too late.:relieved:

OlFius

OK no problem.
Your concerns will be transferred to Lexus, but maybe we'll wait a little longer before we see the end result? For certain comments it is now too late.:relieved:

Wow! I am grateful for the prompt reply. Sincerely, thank you so much for your time to share my concerns.

OlFius

OK no problem.
Your concerns will be transferred to Lexus, but maybe we'll wait a little longer before we see the end result? For certain comments it is now too late.:relieved:

Wow! I am grateful for the prompt reply. Sincerely, thank you so much for your time to share my concerns.

OlFius

OK no problem.
Your concerns will be transferred to Lexus, but maybe we'll wait a little longer before we see the end result? For certain comments it is now too late.:relieved:

Wow! I am grateful for the prompt reply. Sincerely, thank you so much for your time to share my concerns.

To me, even the teaser picture looks promising. The rear looks different and yet you can see Lexus likes to see no break point between the light on the tailgate and the rear lights. Just like the NX and RX.. Haven't been excited about a new car for some time...

To me, even the teaser picture looks promising. The rear looks different and yet you can see Lexus likes to see no break point between the light on the tailgate and the rear lights. Just like the NX and RX.. Haven't been excited about a new car for some time...

To me, even the teaser picture looks promising. The rear looks different and yet you can see Lexus likes to see no break point between the light on the tailgate and the rear lights. Just like the NX and RX.. Haven't been excited about a new car for some time...

isanatori

Wow! I am grateful for the prompt reply. Sincerely, thank you so much for your time to share my concerns.

this is lexus fan forum, maybe few people work for some dealers and maybe few in corporate, but nobody can influence anything about anything.

Looking at teaser pic, it looks pretty crazy like the concept so I am not sure whats the problem there, most people will likely hate that it is too crazy designed.

isanatori

Wow! I am grateful for the prompt reply. Sincerely, thank you so much for your time to share my concerns.

this is lexus fan forum, maybe few people work for some dealers and maybe few in corporate, but nobody can influence anything about anything.

Looking at teaser pic, it looks pretty crazy like the concept so I am not sure whats the problem there, most people will likely hate that it is too crazy designed.

isanatori

Wow! I am grateful for the prompt reply. Sincerely, thank you so much for your time to share my concerns.

this is lexus fan forum, maybe few people work for some dealers and maybe few in corporate, but nobody can influence anything about anything.

Looking at teaser pic, it looks pretty crazy like the concept so I am not sure whats the problem there, most people will likely hate that it is too crazy designed.

isanatori

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

I find it hilarious that you think just because you don't like it, people here can "pressure Lexus" to change it. It looks very, VERY similar to the concept. It looks really good in the teaser - speaking of the teaser, it's blacked-out so you can't tell what it is, so why judge it before it is revealed? Lexus always does an amazing job at matching the concept, so I think it'll look really good. If you don't like it, then don't buy one when it comes out. Simple as that.

isanatori

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

I find it hilarious that you think just because you don't like it, people here can "pressure Lexus" to change it. It looks very, VERY similar to the concept. It looks really good in the teaser - speaking of the teaser, it's blacked-out so you can't tell what it is, so why judge it before it is revealed? Lexus always does an amazing job at matching the concept, so I think it'll look really good. If you don't like it, then don't buy one when it comes out. Simple as that.

isanatori

First things first, I am not an expert. But, I don't like the rear.
May I request from you to put pressure on Lexus to replace those unsightly taillight horns with the center taillight part along with the center upper crease, making it extended upto above the rear wheel arches? And that sculpture that resembles the NX taillights must go away. And that spoiler needs to go away.

My biggest gripe with that design is, it makes the car look like a commodity. Where is the UX concept? If they can't follow the concept design, then why are they making use of the same name with the concept?

I find it hilarious that you think just because you don't like it, people here can "pressure Lexus" to change it. It looks very, VERY similar to the concept. It looks really good in the teaser - speaking of the teaser, it's blacked-out so you can't tell what it is, so why judge it before it is revealed? Lexus always does an amazing job at matching the concept, so I think it'll look really good. If you don't like it, then don't buy one when it comes out. Simple as that.

I apologize if I confused anyone with my wording. I acknowledge this site is not related to Lexus company and I expect nothing particular from any member. It was just a request only. I should did not make the request.

I just assumed from the brightened photo, there are major deviations from the concept and expected something different.

Having seen the chassis of the production version of LC, remaining identical to the concept, I was expecting Lexus to bring the UX design more closely to the concept too.

From the brightened photo, it seems to me, the rear columns were moved outwards (I guess in favour of cabin roominess). Also the rear windshield is less curved.
As a consequence, the rear design changed dramatically. Basic design elements and shapes had to be changed or removed. Having the impressively raised & sculptured sheet metal next to the rear columns removed, the taillight edges twisted and shortened, degenerated lying in the air like horns. This is what I meant.

Having seen the Toyota CHR, I can say that it's silhouete favours style over function, which is a surprising and quite risky decision for a budget car.

I believe Lexus should aim for making a luxury and sensational statement even more radical and futuristic than the budget car Chr. That's my concern and I hope my worries to be proved unreasonable.

I apologize if I confused anyone with my wording. I acknowledge this site is not related to Lexus company and I expect nothing particular from any member. It was just a request only. I should did not make the request.

I just assumed from the brightened photo, there are major deviations from the concept and expected something different.

Having seen the chassis of the production version of LC, remaining identical to the concept, I was expecting Lexus to bring the UX design more closely to the concept too.

From the brightened photo, it seems to me, the rear columns were moved outwards (I guess in favour of cabin roominess). Also the rear windshield is less curved.
As a consequence, the rear design changed dramatically. Basic design elements and shapes had to be changed or removed. Having the impressively raised & sculptured sheet metal next to the rear columns removed, the taillight edges twisted and shortened, degenerated lying in the air like horns. This is what I meant.

Having seen the Toyota CHR, I can say that it's silhouete favours style over function, which is a surprising and quite risky decision for a budget car.

I believe Lexus should aim for making a luxury and sensational statement even more radical and futuristic than the budget car Chr. That's my concern and I hope my worries to be proved unreasonable.

I apologize if I confused anyone with my wording. I acknowledge this site is not related to Lexus company and I expect nothing particular from any member. It was just a request only. I should did not make the request.

I just assumed from the brightened photo, there are major deviations from the concept and expected something different.

Having seen the chassis of the production version of LC, remaining identical to the concept, I was expecting Lexus to bring the UX design more closely to the concept too.

From the brightened photo, it seems to me, the rear columns were moved outwards (I guess in favour of cabin roominess). Also the rear windshield is less curved.
As a consequence, the rear design changed dramatically. Basic design elements and shapes had to be changed or removed. Having the impressively raised & sculptured sheet metal next to the rear columns removed, the taillight edges twisted and shortened, degenerated lying in the air like horns. This is what I meant.

Having seen the Toyota CHR, I can say that it's silhouete favours style over function, which is a surprising and quite risky decision for a budget car.

I believe Lexus should aim for making a luxury and sensational statement even more radical and futuristic than the budget car Chr. That's my concern and I hope my worries to be proved unreasonable.