Lexus USA Announces 2019 ES 350 & ES 300h Pricing

Posted by Kevin on July 27th, 2018

The all-new 2019 Lexus ES 350 will arrive in U.S. dealerships this September with a base price of $39,500, just $550 more than the outgoing model. The all-new ES 350 F SPORT package will be a $4,535 option, for a starting price of $44,035.

Pricing for the hybrid ES 300h has also been announced at $41,310 USD, making for a $510 decrease compared to its predecessor.

All prices exclude a $1,025 fee for delivery, processing and handling.

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spwolf
UX250h is coming with AWD, i think same powertrain will soon come to CHR as well, maybe even later this year.

I think some Japanese RWD hybrid Toyota's had e-awd system, based on 300h powertrain + front electric motors.
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
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spwolf
UX250h is coming with AWD, i think same powertrain will soon come to CHR as well, maybe even later this year.

I think some Japanese RWD hybrid Toyota's had e-awd system, based on 300h powertrain + front electric motors.
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
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spwolf
UX250h is coming with AWD, i think same powertrain will soon come to CHR as well, maybe even later this year.

I think some Japanese RWD hybrid Toyota's had e-awd system, based on 300h powertrain + front electric motors.
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
Madi
ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?



As I know the Crown has longitudinal mounted engine, and its Hybrid is basically the same as of the GS or LS

Its a RWD mid-size vehicle, or as I call it re-skinned GS o_O
Madi
ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?



As I know the Crown has longitudinal mounted engine, and its Hybrid is basically the same as of the GS or LS

Its a RWD mid-size vehicle, or as I call it re-skinned GS o_O
Madi
ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?



As I know the Crown has longitudinal mounted engine, and its Hybrid is basically the same as of the GS or LS

Its a RWD mid-size vehicle, or as I call it re-skinned GS o_O
Madi
ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?



As I know the Crown has longitudinal mounted engine, and its Hybrid is basically the same as of the GS or LS

Its a RWD mid-size vehicle, or as I call it re-skinned GS o_O
Madi
ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?



As I know the Crown has longitudinal mounted engine, and its Hybrid is basically the same as of the GS or LS

Its a RWD mid-size vehicle, or as I call it re-skinned GS o_O
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ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
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ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
S
ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
S
ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
S
ssun30
The Crown Hybrid 4WD uses a conventional transaxle after the hybrid system output shaft and is a full-time AWD system. To me it's something they should do on next-gen high power (>150kW) transverse hybrids like the Highlander and RX. E-Four is just way too much effort for very little gain.
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
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Madi
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?
No it's still longitudinal. If you don't read Japanese you can tell from the direction of the arrows. Also, the GS is a re-skinned Crown not the other way around.

spwolf
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
Current E-Four does not save weight; it was lighter in theory but haven't materialized yet. Maybe with TNGA updates it can reach parity with traditional systems. Yes E-Four will have some MPG advantage since it's part-time, but it will be carrying a lot of dead weight as well. If they connect the hybrid system to DTV-AWD it will achieve the same goal while still leaving the possibility of locking the vehicle in AWD mode.
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Madi
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?
No it's still longitudinal. If you don't read Japanese you can tell from the direction of the arrows. Also, the GS is a re-skinned Crown not the other way around.

spwolf
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
Current E-Four does not save weight; it was lighter in theory but haven't materialized yet. Maybe with TNGA updates it can reach parity with traditional systems. Yes E-Four will have some MPG advantage since it's part-time, but it will be carrying a lot of dead weight as well. If they connect the hybrid system to DTV-AWD it will achieve the same goal while still leaving the possibility of locking the vehicle in AWD mode.
S
Madi
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?
No it's still longitudinal. If you don't read Japanese you can tell from the direction of the arrows. Also, the GS is a re-skinned Crown not the other way around.

spwolf
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
Current E-Four does not save weight; it was lighter in theory but haven't materialized yet. Maybe with TNGA updates it can reach parity with traditional systems. Yes E-Four will have some MPG advantage since it's part-time, but it will be carrying a lot of dead weight as well. If they connect the hybrid system to DTV-AWD it will achieve the same goal while still leaving the possibility of locking the vehicle in AWD mode.
S
Madi
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?
No it's still longitudinal. If you don't read Japanese you can tell from the direction of the arrows. Also, the GS is a re-skinned Crown not the other way around.

spwolf
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
Current E-Four does not save weight; it was lighter in theory but haven't materialized yet. Maybe with TNGA updates it can reach parity with traditional systems. Yes E-Four will have some MPG advantage since it's part-time, but it will be carrying a lot of dead weight as well. If they connect the hybrid system to DTV-AWD it will achieve the same goal while still leaving the possibility of locking the vehicle in AWD mode.
S
Madi
Did they change the layout of the Crown engine ?
No it's still longitudinal. If you don't read Japanese you can tell from the direction of the arrows. Also, the GS is a re-skinned Crown not the other way around.

spwolf
well it is certainly only way to make it right, but i thought it is much heavier than e-four? Also it would ruin MPG, so it does depend on the vehicle I guess.
Current E-Four does not save weight; it was lighter in theory but haven't materialized yet. Maybe with TNGA updates it can reach parity with traditional systems. Yes E-Four will have some MPG advantage since it's part-time, but it will be carrying a lot of dead weight as well. If they connect the hybrid system to DTV-AWD it will achieve the same goal while still leaving the possibility of locking the vehicle in AWD mode.
L
Thanks for all the replies. I have done some research and can now myself answer to my own question. It gets harder to find technical information in our times, because what sells are not technical specifications, but marketing jargon. Anyway, I'll leave TMC terminology aside, because it is confusing and I'll call everything as it is.

TMC has basically two AWD systems for ICE versions:
On-Demand AWD: front transverse engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-T)
Part/Full-Time AWD: front longitudinal engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-L)

TMC also has two AWD systems for HEV versions:
For FF-T layout: unlike the ICE versions, AWD HEVs have no mechanical linkage to rear wheels. Rear wheels are powered by an electric motor, in addition to the front electric motor. So AWD HEV with FF-T layout, just has an additional motor at the rear axle, compared to FWD HEV.
For FR-L layout: is uses the mechanical components of F4-L versions. It is just adds the electric motor between the engine and the transmission. So on an FR-L you 'add' AWD (transfer case with front diff) , HEV (electric motor between engine and transmission), or both.

So to answer to my question: There are no TMC cars or sedans (with exception of the Prius that @Madi mentioned) with FF-T layout that use the AWD system of HEV CUVs/SUVs. But technically they could, and it is likely the ES will get it. It will also be a 'first' for TMC. However, (P)HEV versions of FF-T layout will never have any mechanical linkage to rear wheels. This is noticeable in the whole industry, recently announced by Infiniti, and quite probably also the future of Audi and Subaru even with FF-L layout.

But there are indeed TMC cars or sedans with FR-L layout that are HEV and have AWD. The first car of this kind was the LS 600h. Technically every Lexus (or Toyota) HEV that has an FR-L layout could have AWD. And it is indeed true that there are the IS 300h, is available, not only as RWD, but also as AWD in some markets. What is interesting, is that the Toyota Crown that is related to the Lexus GS, has an AWD version of the 4 cylinder hybrid, but the GS does not. A GS450h AWD could have been a technical possibility, but there was probably no business case for it.


Regarding TMCs 'new' AWD systems, there is nothing really new. The 'novelty', regardless if mechanical or electric power, is torque management, known as torque vectoring. But there are not enough details to know what type of torque vectoring. For reminder of the types of diffs:
  • no torque distribution control (open/locked diff)
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
L
Thanks for all the replies. I have done some research and can now myself answer to my own question. It gets harder to find technical information in our times, because what sells are not technical specifications, but marketing jargon. Anyway, I'll leave TMC terminology aside, because it is confusing and I'll call everything as it is.

TMC has basically two AWD systems for ICE versions:
On-Demand AWD: front transverse engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-T)
Part/Full-Time AWD: front longitudinal engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-L)

TMC also has two AWD systems for HEV versions:
For FF-T layout: unlike the ICE versions, AWD HEVs have no mechanical linkage to rear wheels. Rear wheels are powered by an electric motor, in addition to the front electric motor. So AWD HEV with FF-T layout, just has an additional motor at the rear axle, compared to FWD HEV.
For FR-L layout: is uses the mechanical components of F4-L versions. It is just adds the electric motor between the engine and the transmission. So on an FR-L you 'add' AWD (transfer case with front diff) , HEV (electric motor between engine and transmission), or both.

So to answer to my question: There are no TMC cars or sedans (with exception of the Prius that @Madi mentioned) with FF-T layout that use the AWD system of HEV CUVs/SUVs. But technically they could, and it is likely the ES will get it. It will also be a 'first' for TMC. However, (P)HEV versions of FF-T layout will never have any mechanical linkage to rear wheels. This is noticeable in the whole industry, recently announced by Infiniti, and quite probably also the future of Audi and Subaru even with FF-L layout.

But there are indeed TMC cars or sedans with FR-L layout that are HEV and have AWD. The first car of this kind was the LS 600h. Technically every Lexus (or Toyota) HEV that has an FR-L layout could have AWD. And it is indeed true that there are the IS 300h, is available, not only as RWD, but also as AWD in some markets. What is interesting, is that the Toyota Crown that is related to the Lexus GS, has an AWD version of the 4 cylinder hybrid, but the GS does not. A GS450h AWD could have been a technical possibility, but there was probably no business case for it.


Regarding TMCs 'new' AWD systems, there is nothing really new. The 'novelty', regardless if mechanical or electric power, is torque management, known as torque vectoring. But there are not enough details to know what type of torque vectoring. For reminder of the types of diffs:
  • no torque distribution control (open/locked diff)
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
L
Thanks for all the replies. I have done some research and can now myself answer to my own question. It gets harder to find technical information in our times, because what sells are not technical specifications, but marketing jargon. Anyway, I'll leave TMC terminology aside, because it is confusing and I'll call everything as it is.

TMC has basically two AWD systems for ICE versions:
On-Demand AWD: front transverse engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-T)
Part/Full-Time AWD: front longitudinal engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-L)

TMC also has two AWD systems for HEV versions:
For FF-T layout: unlike the ICE versions, AWD HEVs have no mechanical linkage to rear wheels. Rear wheels are powered by an electric motor, in addition to the front electric motor. So AWD HEV with FF-T layout, just has an additional motor at the rear axle, compared to FWD HEV.
For FR-L layout: is uses the mechanical components of F4-L versions. It is just adds the electric motor between the engine and the transmission. So on an FR-L you 'add' AWD (transfer case with front diff) , HEV (electric motor between engine and transmission), or both.

So to answer to my question: There are no TMC cars or sedans (with exception of the Prius that @Madi mentioned) with FF-T layout that use the AWD system of HEV CUVs/SUVs. But technically they could, and it is likely the ES will get it. It will also be a 'first' for TMC. However, (P)HEV versions of FF-T layout will never have any mechanical linkage to rear wheels. This is noticeable in the whole industry, recently announced by Infiniti, and quite probably also the future of Audi and Subaru even with FF-L layout.

But there are indeed TMC cars or sedans with FR-L layout that are HEV and have AWD. The first car of this kind was the LS 600h. Technically every Lexus (or Toyota) HEV that has an FR-L layout could have AWD. And it is indeed true that there are the IS 300h, is available, not only as RWD, but also as AWD in some markets. What is interesting, is that the Toyota Crown that is related to the Lexus GS, has an AWD version of the 4 cylinder hybrid, but the GS does not. A GS450h AWD could have been a technical possibility, but there was probably no business case for it.


Regarding TMCs 'new' AWD systems, there is nothing really new. The 'novelty', regardless if mechanical or electric power, is torque management, known as torque vectoring. But there are not enough details to know what type of torque vectoring. For reminder of the types of diffs:
  • no torque distribution control (open/locked diff)
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
L
Thanks for all the replies. I have done some research and can now myself answer to my own question. It gets harder to find technical information in our times, because what sells are not technical specifications, but marketing jargon. Anyway, I'll leave TMC terminology aside, because it is confusing and I'll call everything as it is.

TMC has basically two AWD systems for ICE versions:
On-Demand AWD: front transverse engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-T)
Part/Full-Time AWD: front longitudinal engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-L)

TMC also has two AWD systems for HEV versions:
For FF-T layout: unlike the ICE versions, AWD HEVs have no mechanical linkage to rear wheels. Rear wheels are powered by an electric motor, in addition to the front electric motor. So AWD HEV with FF-T layout, just has an additional motor at the rear axle, compared to FWD HEV.
For FR-L layout: is uses the mechanical components of F4-L versions. It is just adds the electric motor between the engine and the transmission. So on an FR-L you 'add' AWD (transfer case with front diff) , HEV (electric motor between engine and transmission), or both.

So to answer to my question: There are no TMC cars or sedans (with exception of the Prius that @Madi mentioned) with FF-T layout that use the AWD system of HEV CUVs/SUVs. But technically they could, and it is likely the ES will get it. It will also be a 'first' for TMC. However, (P)HEV versions of FF-T layout will never have any mechanical linkage to rear wheels. This is noticeable in the whole industry, recently announced by Infiniti, and quite probably also the future of Audi and Subaru even with FF-L layout.

But there are indeed TMC cars or sedans with FR-L layout that are HEV and have AWD. The first car of this kind was the LS 600h. Technically every Lexus (or Toyota) HEV that has an FR-L layout could have AWD. And it is indeed true that there are the IS 300h, is available, not only as RWD, but also as AWD in some markets. What is interesting, is that the Toyota Crown that is related to the Lexus GS, has an AWD version of the 4 cylinder hybrid, but the GS does not. A GS450h AWD could have been a technical possibility, but there was probably no business case for it.


Regarding TMCs 'new' AWD systems, there is nothing really new. The 'novelty', regardless if mechanical or electric power, is torque management, known as torque vectoring. But there are not enough details to know what type of torque vectoring. For reminder of the types of diffs:
  • no torque distribution control (open/locked diff)
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
L
Thanks for all the replies. I have done some research and can now myself answer to my own question. It gets harder to find technical information in our times, because what sells are not technical specifications, but marketing jargon. Anyway, I'll leave TMC terminology aside, because it is confusing and I'll call everything as it is.

TMC has basically two AWD systems for ICE versions:
On-Demand AWD: front transverse engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-T)
Part/Full-Time AWD: front longitudinal engine with mechanical linkage to all wheels (F4-L)

TMC also has two AWD systems for HEV versions:
For FF-T layout: unlike the ICE versions, AWD HEVs have no mechanical linkage to rear wheels. Rear wheels are powered by an electric motor, in addition to the front electric motor. So AWD HEV with FF-T layout, just has an additional motor at the rear axle, compared to FWD HEV.
For FR-L layout: is uses the mechanical components of F4-L versions. It is just adds the electric motor between the engine and the transmission. So on an FR-L you 'add' AWD (transfer case with front diff) , HEV (electric motor between engine and transmission), or both.

So to answer to my question: There are no TMC cars or sedans (with exception of the Prius that @Madi mentioned) with FF-T layout that use the AWD system of HEV CUVs/SUVs. But technically they could, and it is likely the ES will get it. It will also be a 'first' for TMC. However, (P)HEV versions of FF-T layout will never have any mechanical linkage to rear wheels. This is noticeable in the whole industry, recently announced by Infiniti, and quite probably also the future of Audi and Subaru even with FF-L layout.

But there are indeed TMC cars or sedans with FR-L layout that are HEV and have AWD. The first car of this kind was the LS 600h. Technically every Lexus (or Toyota) HEV that has an FR-L layout could have AWD. And it is indeed true that there are the IS 300h, is available, not only as RWD, but also as AWD in some markets. What is interesting, is that the Toyota Crown that is related to the Lexus GS, has an AWD version of the 4 cylinder hybrid, but the GS does not. A GS450h AWD could have been a technical possibility, but there was probably no business case for it.


Regarding TMCs 'new' AWD systems, there is nothing really new. The 'novelty', regardless if mechanical or electric power, is torque management, known as torque vectoring. But there are not enough details to know what type of torque vectoring. For reminder of the types of diffs:
  • no torque distribution control (open/locked diff)
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
S
Levi
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
new system is likely more affordable than regular systems and fuel saving, but yeah it can distribute torque to each wheel individually.

I mean Toyota has owned Torsen for a long time now, 14 years or so, there is no reason for them to be able to adopt single, better system across the board.

Otherwise, they have previously used various different systems for various vehicles, for instance most of their Japanese vehicles, even cheap Yaris, have full time AWD system.
S
Levi
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
new system is likely more affordable than regular systems and fuel saving, but yeah it can distribute torque to each wheel individually.

I mean Toyota has owned Torsen for a long time now, 14 years or so, there is no reason for them to be able to adopt single, better system across the board.

Otherwise, they have previously used various different systems for various vehicles, for instance most of their Japanese vehicles, even cheap Yaris, have full time AWD system.
S
Levi
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
new system is likely more affordable than regular systems and fuel saving, but yeah it can distribute torque to each wheel individually.

I mean Toyota has owned Torsen for a long time now, 14 years or so, there is no reason for them to be able to adopt single, better system across the board.

Otherwise, they have previously used various different systems for various vehicles, for instance most of their Japanese vehicles, even cheap Yaris, have full time AWD system.
S
Levi
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
new system is likely more affordable than regular systems and fuel saving, but yeah it can distribute torque to each wheel individually.

I mean Toyota has owned Torsen for a long time now, 14 years or so, there is no reason for them to be able to adopt single, better system across the board.

Otherwise, they have previously used various different systems for various vehicles, for instance most of their Japanese vehicles, even cheap Yaris, have full time AWD system.
S
Levi
  • passive torque distribution control (mechanical differential)
  • passive torque distribution control (passive braking)
  • braking control (active braking)
  • torque vectoring control (active differential)
new system is likely more affordable than regular systems and fuel saving, but yeah it can distribute torque to each wheel individually.

I mean Toyota has owned Torsen for a long time now, 14 years or so, there is no reason for them to be able to adopt single, better system across the board.

Otherwise, they have previously used various different systems for various vehicles, for instance most of their Japanese vehicles, even cheap Yaris, have full time AWD system.
bogglo


OK I agree an AWD will be nice with this.
bogglo


OK I agree an AWD will be nice with this.

B