Lexus USA Announces 2019 ES 350 & ES 300h Pricing


The all-new 2019 Lexus ES 350 will arrive in U.S. dealerships this September with a base price of $39,500, just $550 more than the outgoing model. The all-new ES 350 F SPORT package will be a $4,535 option, for a starting price of $44,035.

Pricing for the hybrid ES 300h has also been announced at $41,310 USD, making for a $510 decrease compared to its predecessor.

All prices exclude a $1,025 fee for delivery, processing and handling.

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Joaquin Ruhi
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Is this the Sunlight Green grandiosely described as "replicating the color of ocean water brightened by the sun"? Looks more like the Ginger Ale Metallic recently offered on a number of Fords in North America or, worse, the widely derided Desert Sage (6U3) hue offered on the Lexus IS for the 2006-08 model years.

My favorite part of the 2019 ES release is this awesome color! I hope the RC get's this option.
Desert Sage is personally one of my all time favorites. (not my car below)

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That green exterior colour with the brown and tan interior dripping with (I assume) bamboo! Me likey!
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That green exterior colour with the brown and tan interior dripping with (I assume) bamboo! Me likey!
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That green exterior colour with the brown and tan interior dripping with (I assume) bamboo! Me likey!
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That green exterior colour with the brown and tan interior dripping with (I assume) bamboo! Me likey!
ES looks great, dashboard leaves room for the imagination to desire but the exterior really leads me on to believe it should be more than it is, which is an ES. If pricing doesn't really change, this car would be a great deal and sell really well.
ES looks great, dashboard leaves room for the imagination to desire but the exterior really leads me on to believe it should be more than it is, which is an ES. If pricing doesn't really change, this car would be a great deal and sell really well.
ES looks great, dashboard leaves room for the imagination to desire but the exterior really leads me on to believe it should be more than it is, which is an ES. If pricing doesn't really change, this car would be a great deal and sell really well.
ES looks great, dashboard leaves room for the imagination to desire but the exterior really leads me on to believe it should be more than it is, which is an ES. If pricing doesn't really change, this car would be a great deal and sell really well.
Gecko
^Is that brown plastic on the center console?
I think it matches the wood color or something... or at least with that wood it was brownish and with F-Sport it was silverish.
Gecko
^Is that brown plastic on the center console?
I think it matches the wood color or something... or at least with that wood it was brownish and with F-Sport it was silverish.
Gecko
^Is that brown plastic on the center console?
I think it matches the wood color or something... or at least with that wood it was brownish and with F-Sport it was silverish.
Gecko
^Is that brown plastic on the center console?
I think it matches the wood color or something... or at least with that wood it was brownish and with F-Sport it was silverish.
Gecko
We can agree to disagree about torque steer being a problem. US media hates it and so do many consumers, so the car will most likely be reviewed as dynamically inferior to competitors and even GS. It is what it is.

I have no problem with Lexus using Toyota engines and of course I understand the business case for shared engines across a wide array of vehicles. However,
Camry debuted TNGA-K
Camry debuted A25A-FKS
Camry debuted 2GR-FKS in a sedan
Camry debuted 2.5L THS II
Avalon debuted CarPlay
Avalon debuted minor revision of THS II with 7 more horsepower
...ES just showed up using all the Toyota hardware we've already seen

It would have looked better if they had at least staged the ES reveal before the Avalon to make it seem like something was sacred for Lexus. Considering the situation with GS, the optics of this are just bad for a "premium" brand. Adding insult to injury was the continued use of "new" in their press release and teaser materials setting expectations that the product didn't deliver on for the reasons I noted above.
As to the torque steer, of course it will be inferior to "even GS". GS is great handling car, of course ES will be inferior. I am saying it means little to customers, just like GS handling better than 5 series meant very little to GS.

Why would it look better or worse? Camry was introduced first, and as such it got those engines first. Avalon got introduced 2 months before ES, so it "got" those few things 2 months earlier than ES.

Just like LS being introduced earlier means ES "gets" CarPlay sooner than it. Idea that Toyota should have delayed CarPlay and Camry and Avalon so LS and ES get it first is silly.
Gecko
We can agree to disagree about torque steer being a problem. US media hates it and so do many consumers, so the car will most likely be reviewed as dynamically inferior to competitors and even GS. It is what it is.

I have no problem with Lexus using Toyota engines and of course I understand the business case for shared engines across a wide array of vehicles. However,
Camry debuted TNGA-K
Camry debuted A25A-FKS
Camry debuted 2GR-FKS in a sedan
Camry debuted 2.5L THS II
Avalon debuted CarPlay
Avalon debuted minor revision of THS II with 7 more horsepower
...ES just showed up using all the Toyota hardware we've already seen

It would have looked better if they had at least staged the ES reveal before the Avalon to make it seem like something was sacred for Lexus. Considering the situation with GS, the optics of this are just bad for a "premium" brand. Adding insult to injury was the continued use of "new" in their press release and teaser materials setting expectations that the product didn't deliver on for the reasons I noted above.
As to the torque steer, of course it will be inferior to "even GS". GS is great handling car, of course ES will be inferior. I am saying it means little to customers, just like GS handling better than 5 series meant very little to GS.

Why would it look better or worse? Camry was introduced first, and as such it got those engines first. Avalon got introduced 2 months before ES, so it "got" those few things 2 months earlier than ES.

Just like LS being introduced earlier means ES "gets" CarPlay sooner than it. Idea that Toyota should have delayed CarPlay and Camry and Avalon so LS and ES get it first is silly.
Gecko
We can agree to disagree about torque steer being a problem. US media hates it and so do many consumers, so the car will most likely be reviewed as dynamically inferior to competitors and even GS. It is what it is.

I have no problem with Lexus using Toyota engines and of course I understand the business case for shared engines across a wide array of vehicles. However,
Camry debuted TNGA-K
Camry debuted A25A-FKS
Camry debuted 2GR-FKS in a sedan
Camry debuted 2.5L THS II
Avalon debuted CarPlay
Avalon debuted minor revision of THS II with 7 more horsepower
...ES just showed up using all the Toyota hardware we've already seen

It would have looked better if they had at least staged the ES reveal before the Avalon to make it seem like something was sacred for Lexus. Considering the situation with GS, the optics of this are just bad for a "premium" brand. Adding insult to injury was the continued use of "new" in their press release and teaser materials setting expectations that the product didn't deliver on for the reasons I noted above.
As to the torque steer, of course it will be inferior to "even GS". GS is great handling car, of course ES will be inferior. I am saying it means little to customers, just like GS handling better than 5 series meant very little to GS.

Why would it look better or worse? Camry was introduced first, and as such it got those engines first. Avalon got introduced 2 months before ES, so it "got" those few things 2 months earlier than ES.

Just like LS being introduced earlier means ES "gets" CarPlay sooner than it. Idea that Toyota should have delayed CarPlay and Camry and Avalon so LS and ES get it first is silly.
Gecko
We can agree to disagree about torque steer being a problem. US media hates it and so do many consumers, so the car will most likely be reviewed as dynamically inferior to competitors and even GS. It is what it is.

I have no problem with Lexus using Toyota engines and of course I understand the business case for shared engines across a wide array of vehicles. However,
Camry debuted TNGA-K
Camry debuted A25A-FKS
Camry debuted 2GR-FKS in a sedan
Camry debuted 2.5L THS II
Avalon debuted CarPlay
Avalon debuted minor revision of THS II with 7 more horsepower
...ES just showed up using all the Toyota hardware we've already seen

It would have looked better if they had at least staged the ES reveal before the Avalon to make it seem like something was sacred for Lexus. Considering the situation with GS, the optics of this are just bad for a "premium" brand. Adding insult to injury was the continued use of "new" in their press release and teaser materials setting expectations that the product didn't deliver on for the reasons I noted above.
As to the torque steer, of course it will be inferior to "even GS". GS is great handling car, of course ES will be inferior. I am saying it means little to customers, just like GS handling better than 5 series meant very little to GS.

Why would it look better or worse? Camry was introduced first, and as such it got those engines first. Avalon got introduced 2 months before ES, so it "got" those few things 2 months earlier than ES.

Just like LS being introduced earlier means ES "gets" CarPlay sooner than it. Idea that Toyota should have delayed CarPlay and Camry and Avalon so LS and ES get it first is silly.
KOHIPEET
So you're suggesting, that the new GS won't make it to Europe? They might as well abandon the entire segment in Europe alltogether.
By now it's pretty much clear that the sole reason why current GS got canceled in Europe is poor sales on a global scale. Europe just happened to have the tiniest sales numbers. New ES will get to keep the same spot in the lineup as it has now which is discount premium midsize car so it's true competition in Europe will be IS300h. That is unless they do something weird with the packaging to keep the price difference at bigger spread. But I do expect to see ES300h and IS300h at the same price level in EU.

I also have a question: Why they didn't include the touchpad from UX? It had clever scrollers on the side for volume and tracking, it was a step in right direction.
KOHIPEET
So you're suggesting, that the new GS won't make it to Europe? They might as well abandon the entire segment in Europe alltogether.
By now it's pretty much clear that the sole reason why current GS got canceled in Europe is poor sales on a global scale. Europe just happened to have the tiniest sales numbers. New ES will get to keep the same spot in the lineup as it has now which is discount premium midsize car so it's true competition in Europe will be IS300h. That is unless they do something weird with the packaging to keep the price difference at bigger spread. But I do expect to see ES300h and IS300h at the same price level in EU.

I also have a question: Why they didn't include the touchpad from UX? It had clever scrollers on the side for volume and tracking, it was a step in right direction.
KOHIPEET
So you're suggesting, that the new GS won't make it to Europe? They might as well abandon the entire segment in Europe alltogether.
By now it's pretty much clear that the sole reason why current GS got canceled in Europe is poor sales on a global scale. Europe just happened to have the tiniest sales numbers. New ES will get to keep the same spot in the lineup as it has now which is discount premium midsize car so it's true competition in Europe will be IS300h. That is unless they do something weird with the packaging to keep the price difference at bigger spread. But I do expect to see ES300h and IS300h at the same price level in EU.

I also have a question: Why they didn't include the touchpad from UX? It had clever scrollers on the side for volume and tracking, it was a step in right direction.
KOHIPEET
So you're suggesting, that the new GS won't make it to Europe? They might as well abandon the entire segment in Europe alltogether.
By now it's pretty much clear that the sole reason why current GS got canceled in Europe is poor sales on a global scale. Europe just happened to have the tiniest sales numbers. New ES will get to keep the same spot in the lineup as it has now which is discount premium midsize car so it's true competition in Europe will be IS300h. That is unless they do something weird with the packaging to keep the price difference at bigger spread. But I do expect to see ES300h and IS300h at the same price level in EU.

I also have a question: Why they didn't include the touchpad from UX? It had clever scrollers on the side for volume and tracking, it was a step in right direction.
mediumhot
By now it's pretty much clear that the sole reason why current GS got canceled in Europe is poor sales on a global scale. Europe just happened to have the tiniest sales numbers. New ES will get to keep the same spot in the lineup as it has now which is discount premium midsize car so it's true competition in Europe will be IS300h. That is unless they do something weird with the packaging to keep the price difference at bigger spread. But I do expect to see ES300h and IS300h at the same price level in EU.

I also have a question: Why they didn't include the touchpad from UX? It had clever scrollers on the side for volume and tracking, it was a step in right direction.

Probably the same reason as the LS500 and the LF-FC concept. The UX is most likely finalized after the ES which make some of the features and techs more advanced than the ES.
mediumhot
By now it's pretty much clear that the sole reason why current GS got canceled in Europe is poor sales on a global scale. Europe just happened to have the tiniest sales numbers. New ES will get to keep the same spot in the lineup as it has now which is discount premium midsize car so it's true competition in Europe will be IS300h. That is unless they do something weird with the packaging to keep the price difference at bigger spread. But I do expect to see ES300h and IS300h at the same price level in EU.

I also have a question: Why they didn't include the touchpad from UX? It had clever scrollers on the side for volume and tracking, it was a step in right direction.

Probably the same reason as the LS500 and the LF-FC concept. The UX is most likely finalized after the ES which make some of the features and techs more advanced than the ES.
mediumhot
By now it's pretty much clear that the sole reason why current GS got canceled in Europe is poor sales on a global scale. Europe just happened to have the tiniest sales numbers. New ES will get to keep the same spot in the lineup as it has now which is discount premium midsize car so it's true competition in Europe will be IS300h. That is unless they do something weird with the packaging to keep the price difference at bigger spread. But I do expect to see ES300h and IS300h at the same price level in EU.

I also have a question: Why they didn't include the touchpad from UX? It had clever scrollers on the side for volume and tracking, it was a step in right direction.

Probably the same reason as the LS500 and the LF-FC concept. The UX is most likely finalized after the ES which make some of the features and techs more advanced than the ES.
mediumhot
By now it's pretty much clear that the sole reason why current GS got canceled in Europe is poor sales on a global scale. Europe just happened to have the tiniest sales numbers. New ES will get to keep the same spot in the lineup as it has now which is discount premium midsize car so it's true competition in Europe will be IS300h. That is unless they do something weird with the packaging to keep the price difference at bigger spread. But I do expect to see ES300h and IS300h at the same price level in EU.

I also have a question: Why they didn't include the touchpad from UX? It had clever scrollers on the side for volume and tracking, it was a step in right direction.

Probably the same reason as the LS500 and the LF-FC concept. The UX is most likely finalized after the ES which make some of the features and techs more advanced than the ES.
  • GTG
    GTG
  • April 25, 2018
The green looks nice , but the red is flawless Did anyone see or know if the car comes with a red leather option ?
  • GTG
    GTG
  • April 25, 2018
The green looks nice , but the red is flawless Did anyone see or know if the car comes with a red leather option ?
  • GTG
    GTG
  • April 25, 2018
The green looks nice , but the red is flawless Did anyone see or know if the car comes with a red leather option ?
  • GTG
    GTG
  • April 25, 2018
The green looks nice , but the red is flawless Did anyone see or know if the car comes with a red leather option ?
GTG
The green looks nice , but the red is flawless Did anyone see or know if the car comes with a red leather option ?
there is red leather in Chinese press vehicle but I am not sure if it will be in all markets.

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