Next-Generation Lexus IS Sedan to Grow in Size?

Posted by Kevin on July 23rd, 2018

According to Japanese magazine Mag-X, the next-generation Lexus IS will debut in 2020 as a much larger sedan, with dimensions closer to the GS than the current IS model.

Using the numbers from the article, let’s make a comparison table with the IS old & new, the GS sedan, and the LC coupe for good measure:

Model Wheelbase Length Width Height
New IS 2870 mm (113 in) 4730 mm (186.2 in) 1815 mm (71.5 in) 1425 mm (56.1 in)
Current IS 2,800 mm (110.2 in) 4,681 mm (184.3 in) 1,810 mm (71.3 in) 1,430 mm (56.3 in)
Current GS 2,850 mm (112.2 in) 4,879 mm (192.1 in) 1,840 mm (72.4 in) 1,455 mm (57.3 in)
Current LC 2,870 mm (113.0 in) 4,760 mm (187.4 in) 1,920 mm (75.6 in) 1,345 mm (53.0 in)

If the Mag-X dimensions are correct, the next-gen IS could have a longer wheelbase and shorter overall length than the GS sedan. This discrepancy could mean shorter front & rear overhangs due to the adoption of the GA-L platform from the LC & LS.

The article suggests a new 2.4L four-cylinder turbo and a 2.5L hybrid as engine options, but there’s no mention of the 400+ horsepower IS 450 that was rumored a couple weeks back. Mag-X also throws in an IS F with the same 4.0L twin-turbo V8 that’s supposed to power the LC F coupe.

Here’s the full page from Mag-X, if anyone wants to translate the article in the comments:

Lexus IS Mag-X Full Page

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Comments
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Wishful thinking the 4IS will be out as a 2020 MY and fitted with a flagship powertrain unless this is an "F" model. If anything, for a non-F version, the 3.5TT will have to be detuned to ~350hp which will be in line to compete with the 440i and S5. Needless to say, I do hope for a 4IS release in 2020 with a better quality interior, more competitive tech and powertrains, which will get me back into one.
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Wishful thinking the 4IS will be out as a 2020 MY and fitted with a flagship powertrain unless this is an "F" model. If anything, for a non-F version, the 3.5TT will have to be detuned to ~350hp which will be in line to compete with the 440i and S5. Needless to say, I do hope for a 4IS release in 2020 with a better quality interior, more competitive tech and powertrains, which will get me back into one.
R
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time, and I agree that we need an electric IS to take on Tesla. Tesla are now producing 5000 of their 3 sedan per week and climbing and still cannot fulfill the de and.
I am pretty sure Toyota will not let this go and therefore expect to see an EV sooner rather than later. Looking at Tesla on You Tube it is hard not to be impressed with their car, simple, clean design like driving an iPhone and that is want the youngster relate to.
R
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time, and I agree that we need an electric IS to take on Tesla. Tesla are now producing 5000 of their 3 sedan per week and climbing and still cannot fulfill the de and.
I am pretty sure Toyota will not let this go and therefore expect to see an EV sooner rather than later. Looking at Tesla on You Tube it is hard not to be impressed with their car, simple, clean design like driving an iPhone and that is want the youngster relate to.
R
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time, and I agree that we need an electric IS to take on Tesla. Tesla are now producing 5000 of their 3 sedan per week and climbing and still cannot fulfill the de and.
I am pretty sure Toyota will not let this go and therefore expect to see an EV sooner rather than later. Looking at Tesla on You Tube it is hard not to be impressed with their car, simple, clean design like driving an iPhone and that is want the youngster relate to.
mikeavelli
Rob Grieveson
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time, and I agree that we need an electric IS to take on Tesla. Tesla are now producing 5000 of their 3 sedan per week and climbing and still cannot fulfill the de and.
I am pretty sure Toyota will not let this go and therefore expect to see an EV sooner rather than later. Looking at Tesla on You Tube it is hard not to be impressed with their car, simple, clean design like driving an iPhone and that is want the youngster relate to.
Good point about the Model 3, another disruptor from Tesla that is taking sales from everyone...
mikeavelli
Rob Grieveson
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time, and I agree that we need an electric IS to take on Tesla. Tesla are now producing 5000 of their 3 sedan per week and climbing and still cannot fulfill the de and.
I am pretty sure Toyota will not let this go and therefore expect to see an EV sooner rather than later. Looking at Tesla on You Tube it is hard not to be impressed with their car, simple, clean design like driving an iPhone and that is want the youngster relate to.
Good point about the Model 3, another disruptor from Tesla that is taking sales from everyone...
mikeavelli
Rob Grieveson
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time, and I agree that we need an electric IS to take on Tesla. Tesla are now producing 5000 of their 3 sedan per week and climbing and still cannot fulfill the de and.
I am pretty sure Toyota will not let this go and therefore expect to see an EV sooner rather than later. Looking at Tesla on You Tube it is hard not to be impressed with their car, simple, clean design like driving an iPhone and that is want the youngster relate to.
Good point about the Model 3, another disruptor from Tesla that is taking sales from everyone...
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corradoMR2
Wishful thinking the 4IS will be out as a 2020 MY and fitted with a flagship powertrain unless this is an "F" model. If anything, for a non-F version, the 3.5TT will have to be detuned to ~350hp which will be in line to compete with the 440i and S5. Needless to say, I do hope for a 4IS release in 2020 with a better quality interior, more competitive tech and powertrains, which will get me back into one.
I agree. Its definitely wishful thinking the 4IS will be out by 2020 for a 2021MY with a flagship TTV6 Non F model. I wouldn't bet on this rumor - especially with the crazy SUV market going on right now. Knowing how business-minded Toyota is - I have a hard time believing they'll drop a Lexus IS400 or something with a TTV6 knowing they'll never make good sales from it. It'll be an enthusiasts car for sure but we all know enthusiasts cars don't pay the bills.

Rob Grieveson
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time
I'll disagree. The Lexus IS currently is doing fine. Its following the typical Lexus IS trend sales numbers (that's even with SUV sales eating some of its profits).
Its still fresh compared to the competition and stacks up pretty well - especially with the new 10.3 inch display from refresh.
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corradoMR2
Wishful thinking the 4IS will be out as a 2020 MY and fitted with a flagship powertrain unless this is an "F" model. If anything, for a non-F version, the 3.5TT will have to be detuned to ~350hp which will be in line to compete with the 440i and S5. Needless to say, I do hope for a 4IS release in 2020 with a better quality interior, more competitive tech and powertrains, which will get me back into one.
I agree. Its definitely wishful thinking the 4IS will be out by 2020 for a 2021MY with a flagship TTV6 Non F model. I wouldn't bet on this rumor - especially with the crazy SUV market going on right now. Knowing how business-minded Toyota is - I have a hard time believing they'll drop a Lexus IS400 or something with a TTV6 knowing they'll never make good sales from it. It'll be an enthusiasts car for sure but we all know enthusiasts cars don't pay the bills.

Rob Grieveson
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time
I'll disagree. The Lexus IS currently is doing fine. Its following the typical Lexus IS trend sales numbers (that's even with SUV sales eating some of its profits).
Its still fresh compared to the competition and stacks up pretty well - especially with the new 10.3 inch display from refresh.
S
corradoMR2
Wishful thinking the 4IS will be out as a 2020 MY and fitted with a flagship powertrain unless this is an "F" model. If anything, for a non-F version, the 3.5TT will have to be detuned to ~350hp which will be in line to compete with the 440i and S5. Needless to say, I do hope for a 4IS release in 2020 with a better quality interior, more competitive tech and powertrains, which will get me back into one.
I agree. Its definitely wishful thinking the 4IS will be out by 2020 for a 2021MY with a flagship TTV6 Non F model. I wouldn't bet on this rumor - especially with the crazy SUV market going on right now. Knowing how business-minded Toyota is - I have a hard time believing they'll drop a Lexus IS400 or something with a TTV6 knowing they'll never make good sales from it. It'll be an enthusiasts car for sure but we all know enthusiasts cars don't pay the bills.

Rob Grieveson
Interesting forum comments I think they need to re vamp te IS now not in two years time
I'll disagree. The Lexus IS currently is doing fine. Its following the typical Lexus IS trend sales numbers (that's even with SUV sales eating some of its profits).
Its still fresh compared to the competition and stacks up pretty well - especially with the new 10.3 inch display from refresh.
Ian Schmidt
Model 3 is by all accounts a giant lemon, so there's definitely a window for someone to make a more compelling EV in that segment. I just don't know who it's gonna be.
Ian Schmidt
Model 3 is by all accounts a giant lemon, so there's definitely a window for someone to make a more compelling EV in that segment. I just don't know who it's gonna be.
Ian Schmidt
Model 3 is by all accounts a giant lemon, so there's definitely a window for someone to make a more compelling EV in that segment. I just don't know who it's gonna be.
mikeavelli
Ian Schmidt
Model 3 is by all accounts a giant lemon, so there's definitely a window for someone to make a more compelling EV in that segment. I just don't know who it's gonna be.
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
mikeavelli
Ian Schmidt
Model 3 is by all accounts a giant lemon, so there's definitely a window for someone to make a more compelling EV in that segment. I just don't know who it's gonna be.
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
mikeavelli
Ian Schmidt
Model 3 is by all accounts a giant lemon, so there's definitely a window for someone to make a more compelling EV in that segment. I just don't know who it's gonna be.
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
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mikeavelli
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
Their focus is on electric crossovers. Tesla shot itself in the foot by making the Model 3 first not Model Y (although they couldn't predict the SUV boom when the Model 3 was formulated). Others are playing smart by filling the hole before Model Y arrives.
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mikeavelli
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
Their focus is on electric crossovers. Tesla shot itself in the foot by making the Model 3 first not Model Y (although they couldn't predict the SUV boom when the Model 3 was formulated). Others are playing smart by filling the hole before Model Y arrives.
S
mikeavelli
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
Their focus is on electric crossovers. Tesla shot itself in the foot by making the Model 3 first not Model Y (although they couldn't predict the SUV boom when the Model 3 was formulated). Others are playing smart by filling the hole before Model Y arrives.
A
The next IS will debute with the 2,5 inline 4 with the multistage gearbox. The 2,0 turbo and the 3,5v6 from the camry. End of story... There will be no twin turbo stuff in a volume model.
A
The next IS will debute with the 2,5 inline 4 with the multistage gearbox. The 2,0 turbo and the 3,5v6 from the camry. End of story... There will be no twin turbo stuff in a volume model.
A
The next IS will debute with the 2,5 inline 4 with the multistage gearbox. The 2,0 turbo and the 3,5v6 from the camry. End of story... There will be no twin turbo stuff in a volume model.
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arrow1982
The next IS will debute with the 2,5 inline 4 with the multistage gearbox. The 2,0 turbo and the 3,5v6 from the camry. End of story... There will be no twin turbo stuff in a volume model.
Sources?
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arrow1982
The next IS will debute with the 2,5 inline 4 with the multistage gearbox. The 2,0 turbo and the 3,5v6 from the camry. End of story... There will be no twin turbo stuff in a volume model.
Sources?
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arrow1982
The next IS will debute with the 2,5 inline 4 with the multistage gearbox. The 2,0 turbo and the 3,5v6 from the camry. End of story... There will be no twin turbo stuff in a volume model.
Sources?
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mikeavelli
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
Reason is simple - Tesla loses money on them... and big boys dont need to lose money on vehicles they sell... hence they are jumping into higher end models first, which is also bad for Tesla as thats where profits are.
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mikeavelli
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
Reason is simple - Tesla loses money on them... and big boys dont need to lose money on vehicles they sell... hence they are jumping into higher end models first, which is also bad for Tesla as thats where profits are.
S
mikeavelli
It really is interesting that no big luxury brand has jumped in. There is obviously a market here.
Reason is simple - Tesla loses money on them... and big boys dont need to lose money on vehicles they sell... hence they are jumping into higher end models first, which is also bad for Tesla as thats where profits are.
S
corradoMR2
Wishful thinking the 4IS will be out as a 2020 MY and fitted with a flagship powertrain unless this is an "F" model. If anything, for a non-F version, the 3.5TT will have to be detuned to ~350hp which will be in line to compete with the 440i and S5. Needless to say, I do hope for a 4IS release in 2020 with a better quality interior, more competitive tech and powertrains, which will get me back into one.
I bet it will be out in 2021 MY with 416hp engine in one of the variations (not base). Dont we already have dates when job 1 starts for next IS from Carmaker1?

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