The 2019 Lexus ES in Two New Colors: Moonbeam Beige Metallic & Sunlit Green

First drives from media are coming in June.

I think exterior looks great. Interior hopefully looks good in real life, I am not that sure about big piece of plastic going down under media controls, but it might look novel and better than regular plastic going on HVAC. Lets see.

Big screens from LS of course look good, so do seats.

It seems ES has active stabilizator system? I dont see what else these "blue" things can be front and back.

First drives from media are coming in June.

I think exterior looks great. Interior hopefully looks good in real life, I am not that sure about big piece of plastic going down under media controls, but it might look novel and better than regular plastic going on HVAC. Lets see.

Big screens from LS of course look good, so do seats.

It seems ES has active stabilizator system? I dont see what else these "blue" things can be front and back.

First drives from media are coming in June.

I think exterior looks great. Interior hopefully looks good in real life, I am not that sure about big piece of plastic going down under media controls, but it might look novel and better than regular plastic going on HVAC. Lets see.

Big screens from LS of course look good, so do seats.

It seems ES has active stabilizator system? I dont see what else these "blue" things can be front and back.

p.s. did anyone catch that new AFS with LED headlights individually controls 24 LEDs in each headlight?

p.s. did anyone catch that new AFS with LED headlights individually controls 24 LEDs in each headlight?

p.s. did anyone catch that new AFS with LED headlights individually controls 24 LEDs in each headlight?

The ES clearly is GS replacement, interior is way more luxurious than GS, it is on par with the German 5 Series, A6 and E Class. The Lexus is better, it looks more functional, whereas the Germans are more bling.

But am I the only one that prefers 3 box sedans, than the new trend of sportback/coupe sedans?

spwolf

Did you really think they will make a wagon ES? To sell like 500 of them?

Lexus EU sells only hybrids, it is 98% of their sales... thats how good IS 2.0t and NX 2.0t are selling, they are in 2%.

Exactly. And the Lexus buyer will not carry cargo in their car, but comfort, something a wagon compromises, because the cargo compartment is not separate from the passenger compartment. The hybrid power train is enough, this car will be used as taxi, uber or waht ever, where fuel efficiency is important. Again, many forget that most sold German 'dream' cars are 4 cylinder diesels.

The ES clearly is GS replacement, interior is way more luxurious than GS, it is on par with the German 5 Series, A6 and E Class. The Lexus is better, it looks more functional, whereas the Germans are more bling.

But am I the only one that prefers 3 box sedans, than the new trend of sportback/coupe sedans?

spwolf

Did you really think they will make a wagon ES? To sell like 500 of them?

Lexus EU sells only hybrids, it is 98% of their sales... thats how good IS 2.0t and NX 2.0t are selling, they are in 2%.

Exactly. And the Lexus buyer will not carry cargo in their car, but comfort, something a wagon compromises, because the cargo compartment is not separate from the passenger compartment. The hybrid power train is enough, this car will be used as taxi, uber or waht ever, where fuel efficiency is important. Again, many forget that most sold German 'dream' cars are 4 cylinder diesels.

The ES clearly is GS replacement, interior is way more luxurious than GS, it is on par with the German 5 Series, A6 and E Class. The Lexus is better, it looks more functional, whereas the Germans are more bling.

But am I the only one that prefers 3 box sedans, than the new trend of sportback/coupe sedans?

spwolf

Did you really think they will make a wagon ES? To sell like 500 of them?

Lexus EU sells only hybrids, it is 98% of their sales... thats how good IS 2.0t and NX 2.0t are selling, they are in 2%.

Exactly. And the Lexus buyer will not carry cargo in their car, but comfort, something a wagon compromises, because the cargo compartment is not separate from the passenger compartment. The hybrid power train is enough, this car will be used as taxi, uber or waht ever, where fuel efficiency is important. Again, many forget that most sold German 'dream' cars are 4 cylinder diesels.

I fully respect opinions of other people and won't try to (I've given up) argue anymore that Lexus is doing what makes the most financial sense. I do believe the ES launch is not a strong one. No I'm not talking about ES-F or AWD, I'm talking about the lack of EV or PHEV-not even a concept-to catch all the buzz, no fancier rear seat options like a recliner with lumbar and leg support, that bin part steering wheel that appears on a UX all the way up to a LS, along with some questionable work done by their PR department. But it's not a weak launch either, it just makes too much sense.

I guess most of the media criticism will be about the obvious lack of EV or PHEV variant when every other competitor will be offering one. I don't think any them will scream "OH NO TWIN-TURBO RWD WAGON IT SUCKS BRING BACK THE V8 GS!".

I fully respect opinions of other people and won't try to (I've given up) argue anymore that Lexus is doing what makes the most financial sense. I do believe the ES launch is not a strong one. No I'm not talking about ES-F or AWD, I'm talking about the lack of EV or PHEV-not even a concept-to catch all the buzz, no fancier rear seat options like a recliner with lumbar and leg support, that bin part steering wheel that appears on a UX all the way up to a LS, along with some questionable work done by their PR department. But it's not a weak launch either, it just makes too much sense.

I guess most of the media criticism will be about the obvious lack of EV or PHEV variant when every other competitor will be offering one. I don't think any them will scream "OH NO TWIN-TURBO RWD WAGON IT SUCKS BRING BACK THE V8 GS!".

I fully respect opinions of other people and won't try to (I've given up) argue anymore that Lexus is doing what makes the most financial sense. I do believe the ES launch is not a strong one. No I'm not talking about ES-F or AWD, I'm talking about the lack of EV or PHEV-not even a concept-to catch all the buzz, no fancier rear seat options like a recliner with lumbar and leg support, that bin part steering wheel that appears on a UX all the way up to a LS, along with some questionable work done by their PR department. But it's not a weak launch either, it just makes too much sense.

I guess most of the media criticism will be about the obvious lack of EV or PHEV variant when every other competitor will be offering one. I don't think any them will scream "OH NO TWIN-TURBO RWD WAGON IT SUCKS BRING BACK THE V8 GS!".

Is this the Sunlight Green grandiosely described as "replicating the color of ocean water brightened by the sun"? Looks more like the Ginger Ale Metallic recently offered on a number of Fords in North America or, worse, the widely derided Desert Sage (6U3) hue offered on the Lexus IS for the 2006-08 model years.

Is this the Sunlight Green grandiosely described as "replicating the color of ocean water brightened by the sun"? Looks more like the Ginger Ale Metallic recently offered on a number of Fords in North America or, worse, the widely derided Desert Sage (6U3) hue offered on the Lexus IS for the 2006-08 model years.

Is this the Sunlight Green grandiosely described as "replicating the color of ocean water brightened by the sun"? Looks more like the Ginger Ale Metallic recently offered on a number of Fords in North America or, worse, the widely derided Desert Sage (6U3) hue offered on the Lexus IS for the 2006-08 model years.

KOHIPEET

I honestly don't know why Lexus even bothers to launch this in Europe. It will be available with one (!) single, 215 hp hybrid powertrain with NO AWD option and NO estate version, in a segment, where all of its rivals (My local dealer said this is indeed, to replace the GS), the 5 series, E-class and the A6 are all offering: Estate version, AWD along with more powerful engine options. Come on. I know it doesn't make too much sense to have a 350 hp daily driver, and it's ok if you don't want to play along the rules of the playing field, but then it's also ok not expect significant sales numbers. This thing is DOA in Europe.

I have very same feelings. RWD model with a great engine (450h) is replaced by FWD 300h. No way that 350 would come to Europe. So selling this car is impossible. Of course, Lexus will put some price tag that will kill this model whatsoever. By the way, if ES comes to Europe, that means that Camry will come too (to replace Avensis). That will be the last nail to ES's coffin.

KOHIPEET

I honestly don't know why Lexus even bothers to launch this in Europe. It will be available with one (!) single, 215 hp hybrid powertrain with NO AWD option and NO estate version, in a segment, where all of its rivals (My local dealer said this is indeed, to replace the GS), the 5 series, E-class and the A6 are all offering: Estate version, AWD along with more powerful engine options. Come on. I know it doesn't make too much sense to have a 350 hp daily driver, and it's ok if you don't want to play along the rules of the playing field, but then it's also ok not expect significant sales numbers. This thing is DOA in Europe.

I have very same feelings. RWD model with a great engine (450h) is replaced by FWD 300h. No way that 350 would come to Europe. So selling this car is impossible. Of course, Lexus will put some price tag that will kill this model whatsoever. By the way, if ES comes to Europe, that means that Camry will come too (to replace Avensis). That will be the last nail to ES's coffin.

KOHIPEET

I honestly don't know why Lexus even bothers to launch this in Europe. It will be available with one (!) single, 215 hp hybrid powertrain with NO AWD option and NO estate version, in a segment, where all of its rivals (My local dealer said this is indeed, to replace the GS), the 5 series, E-class and the A6 are all offering: Estate version, AWD along with more powerful engine options. Come on. I know it doesn't make too much sense to have a 350 hp daily driver, and it's ok if you don't want to play along the rules of the playing field, but then it's also ok not expect significant sales numbers. This thing is DOA in Europe.

I have very same feelings. RWD model with a great engine (450h) is replaced by FWD 300h. No way that 350 would come to Europe. So selling this car is impossible. Of course, Lexus will put some price tag that will kill this model whatsoever. By the way, if ES comes to Europe, that means that Camry will come too (to replace Avensis). That will be the last nail to ES's coffin.

Joaquin Ruhi

Is this the Sunlight Green grandiosely described as "replicating the color of ocean water brightened by the sun"? Looks more like the Ginger Ale Metallic recently offered on a number of Fords in North America or, worse, the widely derided Desert Sage (6U3) hue offered on the Lexus IS for the 2006-08 model years.

I parked once next to an IS with this color. On a "proper" sunlight it occured to me as green as an olive.

Joaquin Ruhi

Is this the Sunlight Green grandiosely described as "replicating the color of ocean water brightened by the sun"? Looks more like the Ginger Ale Metallic recently offered on a number of Fords in North America or, worse, the widely derided Desert Sage (6U3) hue offered on the Lexus IS for the 2006-08 model years.

I parked once next to an IS with this color. On a "proper" sunlight it occured to me as green as an olive.

Joaquin Ruhi

Is this the Sunlight Green grandiosely described as "replicating the color of ocean water brightened by the sun"? Looks more like the Ginger Ale Metallic recently offered on a number of Fords in North America or, worse, the widely derided Desert Sage (6U3) hue offered on the Lexus IS for the 2006-08 model years.

I parked once next to an IS with this color. On a "proper" sunlight it occured to me as green as an olive.

Sooo, I had an idea. It just came to me looking at the back seat of the new ES. Why can't they make it where the area I circled folds down like captains chairs?? The bench seat would remain but remove the inner armrest.

Sooo, I had an idea. It just came to me looking at the back seat of the new ES. Why can't they make it where the area I circled folds down like captains chairs?? The bench seat would remain but remove the inner armrest.

Sooo, I had an idea. It just came to me looking at the back seat of the new ES. Why can't they make it where the area I circled folds down like captains chairs?? The bench seat would remain but remove the inner armrest.

California reveal ... base model ... panoramic roof ... no rear spoiler ... interior with wood

California reveal ... base model ... panoramic roof ... no rear spoiler ... interior with wood

California reveal ... base model ... panoramic roof ... no rear spoiler ... interior with wood

TroyHoward

Sooo, I had an idea. It just came to me looking at the back seat of the new ES. Why can't they make it where the area I circled folds down like captains chairs?? The bench seat would remain but remove the inner armrest.

Captain chairs with full recline and optional massage would be a step too far and cannabalize LS sales. They can do a limited recliner with lumbar and leg support without removing the inner armrest and it will be much more desirable for me at least.

TroyHoward

Sooo, I had an idea. It just came to me looking at the back seat of the new ES. Why can't they make it where the area I circled folds down like captains chairs?? The bench seat would remain but remove the inner armrest.

Captain chairs with full recline and optional massage would be a step too far and cannabalize LS sales. They can do a limited recliner with lumbar and leg support without removing the inner armrest and it will be much more desirable for me at least.

TroyHoward

Sooo, I had an idea. It just came to me looking at the back seat of the new ES. Why can't they make it where the area I circled folds down like captains chairs?? The bench seat would remain but remove the inner armrest.

Captain chairs with full recline and optional massage would be a step too far and cannabalize LS sales. They can do a limited recliner with lumbar and leg support without removing the inner armrest and it will be much more desirable for me at least.