Comparing the New Lexus ES & Lexus LS Sedans


The next-generation Lexus ES has been revealed, and the similarities with the exterior design of the LS flagship are undeniable — let’s put them side-by-side for a comparison:

Lexus ES vs Lexus LS Front

Lexus ES vs Lexus LS Side

There are so many shared design cues that pointing out the differences turns into a game of its own — the headlights, the grille pattern, the lack of a chrome samurai blade along the bottom of the doors.

Overall, the ES is softer in its curves and less articulated in its angles, but this should be expected and even preferred. After all, the LS is the Lexus sedan flagship and can’t give away all its secrets.

(Special thanks to RAL on the forums for this post idea!)

Lexus ES: Sixth GenerationLexus LS: Fourth Generation
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spwolf
@krew nice article and compare with LS... also pic was posted on instagram, by name i would say US dealer employee.
I believe that is the reflection of a palm tree and a partly cloudy/mostly sunny blue sky on the hood ... any palm trees in Japan? ... South Carolina, yes ... Florida, yes ... California, yes ... where else? Middle East?
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spwolf
@krew nice article and compare with LS... also pic was posted on instagram, by name i would say US dealer employee.
I believe that is the reflection of a palm tree and a partly cloudy/mostly sunny blue sky on the hood ... any palm trees in Japan? ... South Carolina, yes ... Florida, yes ... California, yes ... where else? Middle East?
RAL
I believe that is the reflection of a palm tree and a partly cloudy/mostly sunny blue sky on the hood ... any palm trees in Japan? ... South Carolina, yes ... Florida, yes ... California, yes ... where else? Middle East?
it is nowhere else but USA :). As I said, photo has leaked on instagram account, and from quick view it looked like US employee. I did not want to post a screenshot since he is likely already in big trouble since all the chinese sites made screenshot of the post that shows the name, etc.
RAL
I believe that is the reflection of a palm tree and a partly cloudy/mostly sunny blue sky on the hood ... any palm trees in Japan? ... South Carolina, yes ... Florida, yes ... California, yes ... where else? Middle East?
it is nowhere else but USA :). As I said, photo has leaked on instagram account, and from quick view it looked like US employee. I did not want to post a screenshot since he is likely already in big trouble since all the chinese sites made screenshot of the post that shows the name, etc.
So random with the grills...RC base has vertical slants, now ES? Looks good, clearly a base with those projector lamps....
So random with the grills...RC base has vertical slants, now ES? Looks good, clearly a base with those projector lamps....
if this guy leaked the front of the ES, might as well took more pictures of all the angle? The consequence would be the same anyways. lol.
if this guy leaked the front of the ES, might as well took more pictures of all the angle? The consequence would be the same anyways. lol.
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Thanks @Gecko !

Yeah! ... simple and elegant ... my doubts were unfounded! This grille really compliments/enhances the spindle shape!
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Thanks @Gecko !

Yeah! ... simple and elegant ... my doubts were unfounded! This grille really compliments/enhances the spindle shape!
Agree... it looks very nice in that shot. Excited to see more of the car!
Agree... it looks very nice in that shot. Excited to see more of the car!
I hope we do get the mini LS, that would elevate's ES brand poisoning to a whole new level.
I hope we do get the mini LS, that would elevate's ES brand poisoning to a whole new level.
asoksevil
I hope we do get the mini LS, that would elevate's ES brand poisoning to a whole new level.
Well, I can agree with you in some ways regarding that (#cuzGS). :pLol (auto-correct is so annoying)
asoksevil
I hope we do get the mini LS, that would elevate's ES brand poisoning to a whole new level.
Well, I can agree with you in some ways regarding that (#cuzGS). :pLol (auto-correct is so annoying)
DDas
I remember 5 years ago or so when the current generation was leaked (attached). Still such a beautiful car! As I have said many times before, I think it looks really, really good, but will it be good enough to replace the GS? I don't know...It'll definitely replace the current ES well, for it'll gain a more elegant look, but will it be sporty enough to have GS soul? I guess we'll have to wait and see.
That was 6 years ago in February 2012, before its presentation at NYIAS in April 2012. Points out a likelihood this is another China-based leak. Same happened with refreshed 2010 ES in 2009. Other the 2016 MY refresh, China is the source of many ES leaks.

spwolf
@krew nice article and compare with LS... also pic was posted on instagram, by name i would say US dealer employee.
It's not US based. Anyone can repost what they find elsewhere on Instagram. Considering that TMMK is already building pre-production models I highly doubt they're going to be building them with license plate brackets that wide for the USDM or even JDM.

spwolf
it is nowhere else but USA :). As I said, photo has leaked on instagram account, and from quick view it looked like US employee. I did not want to post a screenshot since he is likely already in big trouble since all the chinese sites made screenshot of the post that shows the name, etc.
No, I am not convinced in the least that it was from the USA. The wide form license plate bracket shows that perfectly. This is from outside of North America for sure. Cannot say if it is rhd or lhd, just definitely not USA where license plates are square vs rectangular in UK, Europe, Asia, and parts of Africa.
DDas
I remember 5 years ago or so when the current generation was leaked (attached). Still such a beautiful car! As I have said many times before, I think it looks really, really good, but will it be good enough to replace the GS? I don't know...It'll definitely replace the current ES well, for it'll gain a more elegant look, but will it be sporty enough to have GS soul? I guess we'll have to wait and see.
That was 6 years ago in February 2012, before its presentation at NYIAS in April 2012. Points out a likelihood this is another China-based leak. Same happened with refreshed 2010 ES in 2009. Other the 2016 MY refresh, China is the source of many ES leaks.

spwolf
@krew nice article and compare with LS... also pic was posted on instagram, by name i would say US dealer employee.
It's not US based. Anyone can repost what they find elsewhere on Instagram. Considering that TMMK is already building pre-production models I highly doubt they're going to be building them with license plate brackets that wide for the USDM or even JDM.

spwolf
it is nowhere else but USA :). As I said, photo has leaked on instagram account, and from quick view it looked like US employee. I did not want to post a screenshot since he is likely already in big trouble since all the chinese sites made screenshot of the post that shows the name, etc.
No, I am not convinced in the least that it was from the USA. The wide form license plate bracket shows that perfectly. This is from outside of North America for sure. Cannot say if it is rhd or lhd, just definitely not USA where license plates are square vs rectangular in UK, Europe, Asia, and parts of Africa.
Carmaker1
No, I am not convinced in the least that it was from the USA. The wide form license plate bracket shows that perfectly. This is from outside of North America for sure. Cannot say if it is rhd or lhd, just definitely not USA where license plates are square vs rectangular in UK, Europe, Asia, and parts of Africa.
do other countries have yellow bulbs like in that pic, for blinkers? I know US does. But we dont And there was recent dealer conference in the US where ES was most certainly shown.

Chinese websites came out first with the story and all of them referenced instagram post of said dealer employee.

It was also a base model, or something similar, in Bejing they will certainly show model with new LED lights, not projector lights.
Carmaker1
No, I am not convinced in the least that it was from the USA. The wide form license plate bracket shows that perfectly. This is from outside of North America for sure. Cannot say if it is rhd or lhd, just definitely not USA where license plates are square vs rectangular in UK, Europe, Asia, and parts of Africa.
do other countries have yellow bulbs like in that pic, for blinkers? I know US does. But we dont And there was recent dealer conference in the US where ES was most certainly shown.

Chinese websites came out first with the story and all of them referenced instagram post of said dealer employee.

It was also a base model, or something similar, in Bejing they will certainly show model with new LED lights, not projector lights.
The press release reads more like a tweet, but contains some valuable timing information:

More than just a pretty face, this all-new Lexus vehicle aims to radically transform the concept of comfort for luxury consumers all over the world. Witness its global debut in Beijing on April 25, 2018. #ExperienceAmazing
It also tacitly confirms the rumors and talk that 7ES will expand beyond its current markets and into Western Europe and Japan and other markets not currently getting the ES.
The press release reads more like a tweet, but contains some valuable timing information:

More than just a pretty face, this all-new Lexus vehicle aims to radically transform the concept of comfort for luxury consumers all over the world. Witness its global debut in Beijing on April 25, 2018. #ExperienceAmazing
It also tacitly confirms the rumors and talk that 7ES will expand beyond its current markets and into Western Europe and Japan and other markets not currently getting the ES.
Joaquin Ruhi
It also tacitly confirms the rumors and talk that 7ES will expand beyond its current markets and into Western Europe and Japan and other markets not currently getting the ES.
Yup - and they make specific mention of new powertrains in that release... interesting.
Joaquin Ruhi
It also tacitly confirms the rumors and talk that 7ES will expand beyond its current markets and into Western Europe and Japan and other markets not currently getting the ES.
Yup - and they make specific mention of new powertrains in that release... interesting.
This "radically transform the concept of comfort" phrase is so generic that we couldn't read any information from it.
This "radically transform the concept of comfort" phrase is so generic that we couldn't read any information from it.

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