Next-Generation Lexus ES Sedan Revealed!

Posted by Kevin on April 17th, 2018

Lexus has released the first full photo of the next-generation ES sedan, along with this new teaser video:

From the video, we get a good look at the side profile:

Lexus ES Front SIde

Lexus ES Rear Side

There’s also a brief glance at the rear tail light:

Lexus ES Rear Light

The overall design borrows heavily from the LS, resulting in an ES made bolder and more upscale in appearance. There’s little else in the way of detail, but this is a great start to a very important vehicle in the Lexus lineup.

The next-generation Lexus ES will be revealed on April 25th at the Beijing Motor Show before its worldwide release sometime this year.

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I think we all need to stop thinking inside the box... nobody will be annoyed if we had ES F with 416hp bi-turbo engine and AWD for $60k well optioned.

Audi has been doing it for decades now.

Lexus does not have to be held to some impossible standards to meet.
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spwolf
Maybe some specific market had them which is why they show up in carsalesbase database, but actual competitor to Mazda 6 and Euro Accord and middle class (Passat, Mondeo, Vectra/Insignia) were Corona, Carina and then Avensis, and thats going back to late 60's.

There are some possibly valid rumors that next-gen international Camry will come to Europe and replace Avensis due to low sales in failing sedan market, so that might actually end up being true in the future. Question then is what will Burnaston factory then produce?
The Camry was available in Europe until 2004, even longer in some select markets. It was placed a class higher than those cars you've mentioned and competed with similar offerings from mainstream makes (e.g. Honda Legend, Opel Omega...) and to some lesser degree with offerings from premium makes.
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spwolf
Maybe some specific market had them which is why they show up in carsalesbase database, but actual competitor to Mazda 6 and Euro Accord and middle class (Passat, Mondeo, Vectra/Insignia) were Corona, Carina and then Avensis, and thats going back to late 60's.

There are some possibly valid rumors that next-gen international Camry will come to Europe and replace Avensis due to low sales in failing sedan market, so that might actually end up being true in the future. Question then is what will Burnaston factory then produce?
The Camry was available in Europe until 2004, even longer in some select markets. It was placed a class higher than those cars you've mentioned and competed with similar offerings from mainstream makes (e.g. Honda Legend, Opel Omega...) and to some lesser degree with offerings from premium makes.
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BenzCity
The Camry was available in Europe until 2004, even longer in some select markets. It was placed a class higher than those cars you've mentioned and competed with similar offerings from mainstream makes (e.g. Honda Legend, Opel Omega...) and to some lesser degree with offerings from premium makes.
is this in Germany? Wasnt around here...
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BenzCity
The Camry was available in Europe until 2004, even longer in some select markets. It was placed a class higher than those cars you've mentioned and competed with similar offerings from mainstream makes (e.g. Honda Legend, Opel Omega...) and to some lesser degree with offerings from premium makes.
is this in Germany? Wasnt around here...
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spwolf
is this in Germany? Wasnt around here...
It was definitely officially sold in Germany. According to German Wikipedia it was available until 2004 and I have seen a few Camry wagons here. Pretty sure it was also available in other Western European markets.
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spwolf
is this in Germany? Wasnt around here...
It was definitely officially sold in Germany. According to German Wikipedia it was available until 2004 and I have seen a few Camry wagons here. Pretty sure it was also available in other Western European markets.
Rob_LexusTech
im looking forward to the ES redesign. however, i really hope it dose not look like a little LS. the ES isnt my favorite of them all but i like the current one. its only sin is that its FWD. if they made the ES RWD, it would be a damn fun car to drive considering that it really rips when its stomped on.

right now every lexus model is unique and has its own identity. im hoping it stays that way.

i think the next ES will absolutley have a 4cyl base model, probably a turbo, mid tier and lux/UL will have the 3.5 v6.

looking forward to seeing a sportier faster ES, but i really REALLY hope they dont kill the GS. besides, thats only still a rumor, right?
Rob_LexusTech
im looking forward to the ES redesign. however, i really hope it dose not look like a little LS. the ES isnt my favorite of them all but i like the current one. its only sin is that its FWD. if they made the ES RWD, it would be a damn fun car to drive considering that it really rips when its stomped on.

right now every lexus model is unique and has its own identity. im hoping it stays that way.

i think the next ES will absolutley have a 4cyl base model, probably a turbo, mid tier and lux/UL will have the 3.5 v6.

looking forward to seeing a sportier faster ES, but i really REALLY hope they dont kill the GS. besides, thats only still a rumor, right?
krew
spwolf
I think we all need to stop thinking inside the box... nobody will be annoyed if we had ES F with 416hp bi-turbo engine and AWD for $60k well optioned.

Audi has been doing it for decades now.

Lexus does not have to be held to some impossible standards to meet.
An ES F is a concept I have no trouble with, but it would have to be a worthy addition to the F brand. I wouldn't want something that waters down the high-performance lineup.

It all depends on how well the next-generation model handles.
krew
spwolf
I think we all need to stop thinking inside the box... nobody will be annoyed if we had ES F with 416hp bi-turbo engine and AWD for $60k well optioned.

Audi has been doing it for decades now.

Lexus does not have to be held to some impossible standards to meet.
An ES F is a concept I have no trouble with, but it would have to be a worthy addition to the F brand. I wouldn't want something that waters down the high-performance lineup.

It all depends on how well the next-generation model handles.
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krew
An ES F is a concept I have no trouble with, but it would have to be a worthy addition to the F brand. I wouldn't want something that waters down the high-performance lineup.

It all depends on how well the next-generation model handles.
Customers dont care about "watering the brand" though. Lexus F brand is not selling their sedans at all. RC and GS sales are really bad these days, despite well reviewed GS-F for instance.

If Mercedes can have AMG versions with less than 400hp, so can Lexus. (C43 anyone?)

Nobody ever thought S4, S6 watered the brand, even with significant power deficit compared to the RS as well as M and AMG cars... Everyone actually loves it.
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krew
An ES F is a concept I have no trouble with, but it would have to be a worthy addition to the F brand. I wouldn't want something that waters down the high-performance lineup.

It all depends on how well the next-generation model handles.
Customers dont care about "watering the brand" though. Lexus F brand is not selling their sedans at all. RC and GS sales are really bad these days, despite well reviewed GS-F for instance.

If Mercedes can have AMG versions with less than 400hp, so can Lexus. (C43 anyone?)

Nobody ever thought S4, S6 watered the brand, even with significant power deficit compared to the RS as well as M and AMG cars... Everyone actually loves it.
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Rob_LexusTech
im looking forward to the ES redesign. however, i really hope it dose not look like a little LS. the ES isnt my favorite of them all but i like the current one. its only sin is that its FWD. if they made the ES RWD, it would be a damn fun car to drive considering that it really rips when its stomped on.
RWD seems unlikely. I'm guessing it'll be a FWD based on TNGA, similar to the 2018 Camry. Best we can hope for is optional AWD.
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Rob_LexusTech
im looking forward to the ES redesign. however, i really hope it dose not look like a little LS. the ES isnt my favorite of them all but i like the current one. its only sin is that its FWD. if they made the ES RWD, it would be a damn fun car to drive considering that it really rips when its stomped on.
RWD seems unlikely. I'm guessing it'll be a FWD based on TNGA, similar to the 2018 Camry. Best we can hope for is optional AWD.
F1 Silver Arrows
krew
An ES F is a concept I have no trouble with, but it would have to be a worthy addition to the F brand. I wouldn't want something that waters down the high-performance lineup.

It all depends on how well the next-generation model handles.
Here's the million dollar question. An ES F with a V8 like everyone else? Or the V6? If its an F model, it MUST be the V8 for me. I strongly believe that there should be linearity in a lineup so customers can be interested.
F1 Silver Arrows
krew
An ES F is a concept I have no trouble with, but it would have to be a worthy addition to the F brand. I wouldn't want something that waters down the high-performance lineup.

It all depends on how well the next-generation model handles.
Here's the million dollar question. An ES F with a V8 like everyone else? Or the V6? If its an F model, it MUST be the V8 for me. I strongly believe that there should be linearity in a lineup so customers can be interested.
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F1 Silver Arrows
Here's the million dollar question. An ES F with a V8 like everyone else? Or the V6? If its an F model, it MUST be the V8 for me. I strongly believe that there should be linearity in a lineup so customers can be interested.
Again, going back to the TNGA FWD architecture, it'll be a V6. Maybe the turbo V6, but a V6 nonetheless . Mounting a V8 transversely is no small undertaking.
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F1 Silver Arrows
Here's the million dollar question. An ES F with a V8 like everyone else? Or the V6? If its an F model, it MUST be the V8 for me. I strongly believe that there should be linearity in a lineup so customers can be interested.
Again, going back to the TNGA FWD architecture, it'll be a V6. Maybe the turbo V6, but a V6 nonetheless . Mounting a V8 transversely is no small undertaking.
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TheNerdyPotato
Again, going back to the TNGA FWD architecture, it'll be a V6. Maybe the turbo V6, but a V6 nonetheless . Mounting a V8 transversely is no small undertaking.
416hp AWD ES would be faster than AMG C43.
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TheNerdyPotato
Again, going back to the TNGA FWD architecture, it'll be a V6. Maybe the turbo V6, but a V6 nonetheless . Mounting a V8 transversely is no small undertaking.
416hp AWD ES would be faster than AMG C43.
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Bestcar about Lexus ES in Japan:
https://bestcarweb.jp/news/newcar/2544

Lexus ES has been line up for overseas, including North America, for some time. In the domestic market "Wyndham" which was sold as of January 2006 is sold as Lexus ES overseas, it has become the sixth generation who appeared in 2012 now after two model changes.

　The seventh generation model is scheduled to appear in North America this year, but this will be added to the lineup even in Japan.

　Basically it is developed commonly with camry and platform as it was originally made. In other words, based on the TNGA (Lexus car so LNGA as it is a Lexus car) platform which is highly evaluated by camry, the newly developed new generation 2.5L straight 4 engine + hybrid of the motor is installed. The interior and exterior are given a design and texture that seems to be a Lexus car.

　The 2.5 L hybrid will be "Lexus ES 300 h", and in 2019 a year later, "ES 350" will be added with a newly developed inline 4-cylinder 2.5 L turbo. I also want to pay attention to this.
The power unit is a 2.5 L hybrid mounted on Camry. However, because the undercarriage and interior are thoroughly arranged in a Lexus style, the ride taste becomes completely different. I am looking forward to say that 2.5L turbo will be added one year later


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Bestcar about Lexus ES in Japan:
https://bestcarweb.jp/news/newcar/2544

Lexus ES has been line up for overseas, including North America, for some time. In the domestic market "Wyndham" which was sold as of January 2006 is sold as Lexus ES overseas, it has become the sixth generation who appeared in 2012 now after two model changes.

　The seventh generation model is scheduled to appear in North America this year, but this will be added to the lineup even in Japan.

　Basically it is developed commonly with camry and platform as it was originally made. In other words, based on the TNGA (Lexus car so LNGA as it is a Lexus car) platform which is highly evaluated by camry, the newly developed new generation 2.5L straight 4 engine + hybrid of the motor is installed. The interior and exterior are given a design and texture that seems to be a Lexus car.

　The 2.5 L hybrid will be "Lexus ES 300 h", and in 2019 a year later, "ES 350" will be added with a newly developed inline 4-cylinder 2.5 L turbo. I also want to pay attention to this.
The power unit is a 2.5 L hybrid mounted on Camry. However, because the undercarriage and interior are thoroughly arranged in a Lexus style, the ride taste becomes completely different. I am looking forward to say that 2.5L turbo will be added one year later


Rob_LexusTech
that looks almost legit. looks better then the ES we have now, and it would follow the new design language that seems to be going on with everything across the board. it has harder lines. im digging it. what i dont like is the 3.5 being replaced with a 2.5 turbo 4 banger. then again everyone else is doing it. thats something ive always admired and respected about lexus, they stayed true to the numbering/displacement. well, until now....

in a perfect world, we would be seeing a 4.0L RWDAWD V8, ES400, but those kinds of dreams will never come true at this point. thanks again CAFE standards.. the ES is an interesting car with a very interesting history, and i really like the current car, but its very much time for a redesign. looking forward to see what we have when the wraps come off!
Rob_LexusTech
that looks almost legit. looks better then the ES we have now, and it would follow the new design language that seems to be going on with everything across the board. it has harder lines. im digging it. what i dont like is the 3.5 being replaced with a 2.5 turbo 4 banger. then again everyone else is doing it. thats something ive always admired and respected about lexus, they stayed true to the numbering/displacement. well, until now....

in a perfect world, we would be seeing a 4.0L RWDAWD V8, ES400, but those kinds of dreams will never come true at this point. thanks again CAFE standards.. the ES is an interesting car with a very interesting history, and i really like the current car, but its very much time for a redesign. looking forward to see what we have when the wraps come off!
Rob_LexusTech
i like the big chrome hofmeister kink on the c-pillar/rear door glass too!
Rob_LexusTech
i like the big chrome hofmeister kink on the c-pillar/rear door glass too!
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Rob_LexusTech
that looks almost legit. looks better then the ES we have now, and it would follow the new design language that seems to be going on with everything across the board. it has harder lines. im digging it. what i dont like is the 3.5 being replaced with a 2.5 turbo 4 banger. then again everyone else is doing it. thats something ive always admired and respected about lexus, they stayed true to the numbering/displacement. well, until now....

in a perfect world, we would be seeing a 4.0L RWDAWD V8, ES400, but those kinds of dreams will never come true at this point. thanks again CAFE standards.. the ES is an interesting car with a very interesting history, and i really like the current car, but its very much time for a redesign. looking forward to see what we have when the wraps come off!
I am pretty sure that in USA there will be a V6 from start, their info is about Japan, and quite likely some special F-Sport version in Japan might have that 2.5l Turbo engine.

Also, 4cly NA engine will be available around the world, I would not be so sure it wont be in Japan too, but maybe they are trying to make Lexus more exclusive by offering only hybrid option for it...
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Rob_LexusTech
that looks almost legit. looks better then the ES we have now, and it would follow the new design language that seems to be going on with everything across the board. it has harder lines. im digging it. what i dont like is the 3.5 being replaced with a 2.5 turbo 4 banger. then again everyone else is doing it. thats something ive always admired and respected about lexus, they stayed true to the numbering/displacement. well, until now....

in a perfect world, we would be seeing a 4.0L RWDAWD V8, ES400, but those kinds of dreams will never come true at this point. thanks again CAFE standards.. the ES is an interesting car with a very interesting history, and i really like the current car, but its very much time for a redesign. looking forward to see what we have when the wraps come off!
I am pretty sure that in USA there will be a V6 from start, their info is about Japan, and quite likely some special F-Sport version in Japan might have that 2.5l Turbo engine.

Also, 4cly NA engine will be available around the world, I would not be so sure it wont be in Japan too, but maybe they are trying to make Lexus more exclusive by offering only hybrid option for it...
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With all these cylinder cutting and efficiency maximization (at the cost of smoothness), I think we just have a better excuse to buy full electric.

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