Next-Generation Lexus ES Sedan Revealed!

Posted by Kevin on April 17th, 2018

Lexus has released the first full photo of the next-generation ES sedan, along with this new teaser video:

From the video, we get a good look at the side profile:

Lexus ES Front SIde

Lexus ES Rear Side

There’s also a brief glance at the rear tail light:

Lexus ES Rear Light

The overall design borrows heavily from the LS, resulting in an ES made bolder and more upscale in appearance. There’s little else in the way of detail, but this is a great start to a very important vehicle in the Lexus lineup.

The next-generation Lexus ES will be revealed on April 25th at the Beijing Motor Show before its worldwide release sometime this year.

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OlFius
No no, a "basic" doesn't exist with Lexus, and certainly not with this ES.
It will be completely top-notch, from the base, this will be a world-leading car for Lexus.
But I'm also curious what will happen to the GS, on this they can finally communicate clearly.
krew
OlFius
But I'm also curious what will happen to the GS, on this they can finally communicate clearly.
Well, this is something that will resolve itself shortly. Feels confusing now, but Lexus will have to address the issue eventually. I imagine they're waiting until the ES is revealed, as @Gecko mentioned.
krew
OlFius
But I'm also curious what will happen to the GS, on this they can finally communicate clearly.
Well, this is something that will resolve itself shortly. Feels confusing now, but Lexus will have to address the issue eventually. I imagine they're waiting until the ES is revealed, as @Gecko mentioned.
Gecko
For me it will come down to engine options and the AWD system. If they do something 335+hp and an active AWD system, there is no GS coming back.

If they offer a 270-300hp engine with an AWD on-demand system like Dynamic Torque Vectoring, then I will hold out a 25% hope for GS return.

Gecko
For me it will come down to engine options and the AWD system. If they do something 335+hp and an active AWD system, there is no GS coming back.

If they offer a 270-300hp engine with an AWD on-demand system like Dynamic Torque Vectoring, then I will hold out a 25% hope for GS return.

S
I say at this point we just need to be patient and wait for the Beijing Motor Show. I will be there for the 7ES launch (if 7ES does launch there).
S
I say at this point we just need to be patient and wait for the Beijing Motor Show. I will be there for the 7ES launch (if 7ES does launch there).
S
Gecko
For me it will come down to engine options and the AWD system. If they do something 335+hp and an active AWD system, there is no GS coming back.

If they offer a 270-300hp engine with an AWD on-demand system like Dynamic Torque Vectoring, then I will hold out a 25% hope for GS return.


you probably mean if there is a turbo V6 or not... since there will be certainly V6, as always and apparently many people think there will be a AWD too.
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Gecko
For me it will come down to engine options and the AWD system. If they do something 335+hp and an active AWD system, there is no GS coming back.

If they offer a 270-300hp engine with an AWD on-demand system like Dynamic Torque Vectoring, then I will hold out a 25% hope for GS return.


you probably mean if there is a turbo V6 or not... since there will be certainly V6, as always and apparently many people think there will be a AWD too.
krew
ssun30
I say at this point we just need to be patient and wait for the Beijing Motor Show. I will be there for the 7ES launch (if 7ES does launch there).
Oh yeah? Make sure to post photos!
krew
ssun30
I say at this point we just need to be patient and wait for the Beijing Motor Show. I will be there for the 7ES launch (if 7ES does launch there).
Oh yeah? Make sure to post photos!
mikeavelli
Gecko
For me it will come down to engine options and the AWD system. If they do something 335+hp and an active AWD system, there is no GS coming back.

If they offer a 270-300hp engine with an AWD on-demand system like Dynamic Torque Vectoring, then I will hold out a 25% hope for GS return.

I've heard no rumors on a new V-6. Not sure if the ES gets some rendition of the LS Motor. My guess is the same 3.5 tuned again as the optional V-6.
mikeavelli
Gecko
For me it will come down to engine options and the AWD system. If they do something 335+hp and an active AWD system, there is no GS coming back.

If they offer a 270-300hp engine with an AWD on-demand system like Dynamic Torque Vectoring, then I will hold out a 25% hope for GS return.

I've heard no rumors on a new V-6. Not sure if the ES gets some rendition of the LS Motor. My guess is the same 3.5 tuned again as the optional V-6.
S
mikeavelli
I've heard no rumors on a new V-6. Not sure if the ES gets some rendition of the LS Motor. My guess is the same 3.5 tuned again as the optional V-6.
you mean 300hp GR V6 as upgrade or?
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mikeavelli
I've heard no rumors on a new V-6. Not sure if the ES gets some rendition of the LS Motor. My guess is the same 3.5 tuned again as the optional V-6.
you mean 300hp GR V6 as upgrade or?
S
The 2GR-FKS is sure to stay (in NA) for at least three or four years considering it's still relatively new. The new 2.5 turbo will take a while to reach the same capacity as the 2GR worldwide.
S
The 2GR-FKS is sure to stay (in NA) for at least three or four years considering it's still relatively new. The new 2.5 turbo will take a while to reach the same capacity as the 2GR worldwide.
A
Gecko
If the ES is going to debut at the Beijing show as rumored, that's just a few weeks away now. I think the reveal of the 7ES will tell us almost everything we need to know about the viability of the GS returning.

I love the idea of a more basic "executive sedan" ES and then an IS, GS and LS serving as the sporty, four door Lexus trio. I can always make a case of the GS, but we'll see...
That's barely 2 weeks from now.

Unless this is very similar to when the 6ES was announced where we literally got some leaked photos a few days ahead of the debut, we should have seen some concepts/leaks already?

Also, I really do think that the ES should be a GLOBAL product. There's no reason why this product should not exist in the European market. The gap in price before the 4GS (GS300h) was announced between the IS250 and the GS450h was huge, and people just wanted a car that was large, comfy with great MPG/smaller engine/lower price. This is the reason why most executive sedans (E class, 5 Series, S Class, 7 series, etc) sold in Europe are the ones with the smallest engine.

It would be a great idea to start offering the RX with a smaller engine as well, perhaps a more refined version of the 300h in the NX? The price hike from the NX300h to the RX450h just because of a roomier car is not justifiable and people will most likely go to the German competition that does have that offering.

I really do hope the ES can step up the game because if the ES is supposed to be a some sort of GS replacement at a lower price point, they will have to woo prospective customers with a great product because expectations will be high.
A
Gecko
If the ES is going to debut at the Beijing show as rumored, that's just a few weeks away now. I think the reveal of the 7ES will tell us almost everything we need to know about the viability of the GS returning.

I love the idea of a more basic "executive sedan" ES and then an IS, GS and LS serving as the sporty, four door Lexus trio. I can always make a case of the GS, but we'll see...
That's barely 2 weeks from now.

Unless this is very similar to when the 6ES was announced where we literally got some leaked photos a few days ahead of the debut, we should have seen some concepts/leaks already?

Also, I really do think that the ES should be a GLOBAL product. There's no reason why this product should not exist in the European market. The gap in price before the 4GS (GS300h) was announced between the IS250 and the GS450h was huge, and people just wanted a car that was large, comfy with great MPG/smaller engine/lower price. This is the reason why most executive sedans (E class, 5 Series, S Class, 7 series, etc) sold in Europe are the ones with the smallest engine.

It would be a great idea to start offering the RX with a smaller engine as well, perhaps a more refined version of the 300h in the NX? The price hike from the NX300h to the RX450h just because of a roomier car is not justifiable and people will most likely go to the German competition that does have that offering.

I really do hope the ES can step up the game because if the ES is supposed to be a some sort of GS replacement at a lower price point, they will have to woo prospective customers with a great product because expectations will be high.
S
asoksevil
That's barely 2 weeks from now.

Unless this is very similar to when the 6ES was announced where we literally got some leaked photos a few days ahead of the debut, we should have seen some concepts/leaks already?

Also, I really do think that the ES should be a GLOBAL product. There's no reason why this product should not exist in the European market. The gap in price before the 4GS (GS300h) was announced between the IS250 and the GS450h was huge, and people just wanted a car that was large, comfy with great MPG/smaller engine/lower price. This is the reason why most executive sedans (E class, 5 Series, S Class, 7 series, etc) sold in Europe are the ones with the smallest engine.

It would be a great idea to start offering the RX with a smaller engine as well, perhaps a more refined version of the 300h in the NX? The price hike from the NX300h to the RX450h just because of a roomier car is not justifiable and people will most likely go to the German competition that does have that offering.

I really do hope the ES can step up the game because if the ES is supposed to be a some sort of GS replacement at a lower price point, they will have to woo prospective customers with a great product because expectations will be high.
there are indeed photos of camouflaged test vehicles as well as concept shots of how it should look like, like baby LS basically.

I agree on 300h vs 450h, huge difference in pricing.

We know that 2020 Highlander coming next year will have 300h version. I assume that RX will have it too, especially in Europe.
S
asoksevil
That's barely 2 weeks from now.

Unless this is very similar to when the 6ES was announced where we literally got some leaked photos a few days ahead of the debut, we should have seen some concepts/leaks already?

Also, I really do think that the ES should be a GLOBAL product. There's no reason why this product should not exist in the European market. The gap in price before the 4GS (GS300h) was announced between the IS250 and the GS450h was huge, and people just wanted a car that was large, comfy with great MPG/smaller engine/lower price. This is the reason why most executive sedans (E class, 5 Series, S Class, 7 series, etc) sold in Europe are the ones with the smallest engine.

It would be a great idea to start offering the RX with a smaller engine as well, perhaps a more refined version of the 300h in the NX? The price hike from the NX300h to the RX450h just because of a roomier car is not justifiable and people will most likely go to the German competition that does have that offering.

I really do hope the ES can step up the game because if the ES is supposed to be a some sort of GS replacement at a lower price point, they will have to woo prospective customers with a great product because expectations will be high.
there are indeed photos of camouflaged test vehicles as well as concept shots of how it should look like, like baby LS basically.

I agree on 300h vs 450h, huge difference in pricing.

We know that 2020 Highlander coming next year will have 300h version. I assume that RX will have it too, especially in Europe.
Gecko
ssun30
The 2GR-FKS is sure to stay (in NA) for at least three or four years considering it's still relatively new. The new 2.5 turbo will take a while to reach the same capacity as the 2GR worldwide.
If the ES debuts with the 2GR-FKS, I will be shocked. That engine is great for Highlander, Tacoma, Camry, Avalon, Sienna, but if they can't pull out a new engine for LEXUS' new corporate global midsize sedan, I will be surprised. In a bad way.
Gecko
ssun30
The 2GR-FKS is sure to stay (in NA) for at least three or four years considering it's still relatively new. The new 2.5 turbo will take a while to reach the same capacity as the 2GR worldwide.
If the ES debuts with the 2GR-FKS, I will be shocked. That engine is great for Highlander, Tacoma, Camry, Avalon, Sienna, but if they can't pull out a new engine for LEXUS' new corporate global midsize sedan, I will be surprised. In a bad way.
F1 Silver Arrows
Gecko
If the ES debuts with the 2GR-FKS, I will be shocked. That engine is great for Highlander, Tacoma, Camry, Avalon, Sienna, but if they can't pull out a new engine for LEXUS' new corporate global midsize sedan, I will be surprised. In a bad way.
As much as I would love to see it to become like that, it will not happen. The current platform cannot support such demands. Which is why I keep saying they need to change platforms ASAP.
F1 Silver Arrows
Gecko
If the ES debuts with the 2GR-FKS, I will be shocked. That engine is great for Highlander, Tacoma, Camry, Avalon, Sienna, but if they can't pull out a new engine for LEXUS' new corporate global midsize sedan, I will be surprised. In a bad way.
As much as I would love to see it to become like that, it will not happen. The current platform cannot support such demands. Which is why I keep saying they need to change platforms ASAP.
S
Gecko
If the ES debuts with the 2GR-FKS, I will be shocked. That engine is great for Highlander, Tacoma, Camry, Avalon, Sienna, but if they can't pull out a new engine for LEXUS' new corporate global midsize sedan, I will be surprised. In a bad way.
it will certainly debut with latest GR version... lets be realistic, it is a great base engine for ES.
S
Gecko
If the ES debuts with the 2GR-FKS, I will be shocked. That engine is great for Highlander, Tacoma, Camry, Avalon, Sienna, but if they can't pull out a new engine for LEXUS' new corporate global midsize sedan, I will be surprised. In a bad way.
it will certainly debut with latest GR version... lets be realistic, it is a great base engine for ES.
S
ssun30
The 2GR-FKS is sure to stay (in NA) for at least three or four years considering it's still relatively new. The new 2.5 turbo will take a while to reach the same capacity as the 2GR worldwide.
i bet that many will prefer GR-FKS to 2.5l turbo too... but fuel consumption might be considerably better in tests and in city.
S
ssun30
The 2GR-FKS is sure to stay (in NA) for at least three or four years considering it's still relatively new. The new 2.5 turbo will take a while to reach the same capacity as the 2GR worldwide.
i bet that many will prefer GR-FKS to 2.5l turbo too... but fuel consumption might be considerably better in tests and in city.
Gecko
F1 Silver Arrows
As much as I would love to see it to become like that, it will not happen. The current platform cannot support such demands. Which is why I keep saying they need to change platforms ASAP.
It's moving to TNGA, and from everything I have seen, Toyota is trying to marry Dynamic Force engines to redesigns on TNGA. I know GR still has some life left, but it seems much better suited as a Toyota engine than Lexus next gen midsize sedan. This engine is now 13 years old...

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