Photo Gallery: The Lexus UX Arrives in the USA

ct200e

Thank you guys for all your answers!

So should I wait 2-3 more years for our loving brand makes some ground-brake innovation in EV technology (solid state batteries)?

Because, at the present, Lexus seems like a sleeping giant to me that insists to mediocre innovations as their business model... It's really disappointing to see a CT200h 2018 model using a 2009 technology ( Gen 3 PRIUS ) !! Even the new BMW 1-series will be offered with a plug-in version! (and i hate this brand for several reasons...)

With the exception of a Tesla, I wouldn't suggest buying any hype EV that's too expensive. Even the Tesla decision should be with some cautions.

The Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf, on the other hand, are some practical EVs with solid technology behind them, plus they are cheap after incentives. If you were living in China, there are some solid indigenous options as well.

You should not worry about Lexus not being innovative, because the only piece missing in their EV strategy is the solid state battery. There is a reason DoE and EPA use the Prius and sometimes a Lexus hybrid as benchmarks for EV technology evaluations every year.

ct200e

Thank you guys for all your answers!

So should I wait 2-3 more years for our loving brand makes some ground-brake innovation in EV technology (solid state batteries)?

Because, at the present, Lexus seems like a sleeping giant to me that insists to mediocre innovations as their business model... It's really disappointing to see a CT200h 2018 model using a 2009 technology ( Gen 3 PRIUS ) !! Even the new BMW 1-series will be offered with a plug-in version! (and i hate this brand for several reasons...)

With the exception of a Tesla, I wouldn't suggest buying any hype EV that's too expensive. Even the Tesla decision should be with some cautions.

The Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf, on the other hand, are some practical EVs with solid technology behind them, plus they are cheap after incentives. If you were living in China, there are some solid indigenous options as well.

You should not worry about Lexus not being innovative, because the only piece missing in their EV strategy is the solid state battery. There is a reason DoE and EPA use the Prius and sometimes a Lexus hybrid as benchmarks for EV technology evaluations every year.

ct200e

Thank you guys for all your answers!

So should I wait 2-3 more years for our loving brand makes some ground-brake innovation in EV technology (solid state batteries)?

Because, at the present, Lexus seems like a sleeping giant to me that insists to mediocre innovations as their business model... It's really disappointing to see a CT200h 2018 model using a 2009 technology ( Gen 3 PRIUS ) !! Even the new BMW 1-series will be offered with a plug-in version! (and i hate this brand for several reasons...)

With the exception of a Tesla, I wouldn't suggest buying any hype EV that's too expensive. Even the Tesla decision should be with some cautions.

The Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf, on the other hand, are some practical EVs with solid technology behind them, plus they are cheap after incentives. If you were living in China, there are some solid indigenous options as well.

You should not worry about Lexus not being innovative, because the only piece missing in their EV strategy is the solid state battery. There is a reason DoE and EPA use the Prius and sometimes a Lexus hybrid as benchmarks for EV technology evaluations every year.

ct200e

Thank you guys for all your answers!

So should I wait 2-3 more years for our loving brand makes some ground-brake innovation in EV technology (solid state batteries)?

Because, at the present, Lexus seems like a sleeping giant to me that insists to mediocre innovations as their business model... It's really disappointing to see a CT200h 2018 model using a 2009 technology ( Gen 3 PRIUS ) !! Even the new BMW 1-series will be offered with a plug-in version! (and i hate this brand for several reasons...)

Bmw is good at offering plugins that they dont sell in big numbers, so bmw is innovator with not existing 1 series plugin, but toyota is lagging while selling 1.5m hybrids in 2017 :)

Answer is that you should not wait for Lexus plugin or ev if you want to buy vehicle in next 2-3... Toyota was never about selling cars for PR reasons, they wont do ev or plugin until is needed by regulations or makes sense.

More than 95% sales of BMW (or more) , are from dirty diesel and dirty turbo petrols, while 98% of Lexus in western europe are hybrid but it is lexus thats bad.

ct200e

Thank you guys for all your answers!

So should I wait 2-3 more years for our loving brand makes some ground-brake innovation in EV technology (solid state batteries)?

Because, at the present, Lexus seems like a sleeping giant to me that insists to mediocre innovations as their business model... It's really disappointing to see a CT200h 2018 model using a 2009 technology ( Gen 3 PRIUS ) !! Even the new BMW 1-series will be offered with a plug-in version! (and i hate this brand for several reasons...)

Bmw is good at offering plugins that they dont sell in big numbers, so bmw is innovator with not existing 1 series plugin, but toyota is lagging while selling 1.5m hybrids in 2017 :)

Answer is that you should not wait for Lexus plugin or ev if you want to buy vehicle in next 2-3... Toyota was never about selling cars for PR reasons, they wont do ev or plugin until is needed by regulations or makes sense.

More than 95% sales of BMW (or more) , are from dirty diesel and dirty turbo petrols, while 98% of Lexus in western europe are hybrid but it is lexus thats bad.

ct200e

Thank you guys for all your answers!

So should I wait 2-3 more years for our loving brand makes some ground-brake innovation in EV technology (solid state batteries)?

Because, at the present, Lexus seems like a sleeping giant to me that insists to mediocre innovations as their business model... It's really disappointing to see a CT200h 2018 model using a 2009 technology ( Gen 3 PRIUS ) !! Even the new BMW 1-series will be offered with a plug-in version! (and i hate this brand for several reasons...)

Bmw is good at offering plugins that they dont sell in big numbers, so bmw is innovator with not existing 1 series plugin, but toyota is lagging while selling 1.5m hybrids in 2017 :)

Answer is that you should not wait for Lexus plugin or ev if you want to buy vehicle in next 2-3... Toyota was never about selling cars for PR reasons, they wont do ev or plugin until is needed by regulations or makes sense.

More than 95% sales of BMW (or more) , are from dirty diesel and dirty turbo petrols, while 98% of Lexus in western europe are hybrid but it is lexus thats bad.

UX engine specs confirmed:

UX200 169hp
UX250h 175hp (143+32)
UX250 208hp

No I don't post peak torque here because it's irrelevant.

UX engine specs confirmed:

UX200 169hp
UX250h 175hp (143+32)
UX250 208hp

No I don't post peak torque here because it's irrelevant.

UX engine specs confirmed:

UX200 169hp
UX250h 175hp (143+32)
UX250 208hp

No I don't post peak torque here because it's irrelevant.

ssun30

UX engine specs confirmed:

UX200 169hp
UX250h 178hp (143+35)
UX250 208hp

No I don't post peak torque here because it's irrelevant.

So 35hp max battery output, not bad.

edit: NA 2018 Camry HSD has 176hp + 32hp for 208. This is a good sign for 250h powertrain, it will have a nice electric boost.

ssun30

UX engine specs confirmed:

UX200 169hp
UX250h 178hp (143+35)
UX250 208hp

No I don't post peak torque here because it's irrelevant.

So 35hp max battery output, not bad.

edit: NA 2018 Camry HSD has 176hp + 32hp for 208. This is a good sign for 250h powertrain, it will have a nice electric boost.

ssun30

UX engine specs confirmed:

UX200 169hp
UX250h 178hp (143+35)
UX250 208hp

No I don't post peak torque here because it's irrelevant.

So 35hp max battery output, not bad.

edit: NA 2018 Camry HSD has 176hp + 32hp for 208. This is a good sign for 250h powertrain, it will have a nice electric boost.

spwolf

So 35hp max battery output, not bad.

edit: NA 2018 Camry HSD has 176hp + 32hp for 208. This is a good sign for 250h powertrain, it will have a nice electric boost.

I thought the Camry uses a 25kW battery so I assumed 35hp from batteries. But 3hp is not a big deal. The idea is that it will use Camry hybrid's battery instead of the less powerful Prius battery.

spwolf

So 35hp max battery output, not bad.

edit: NA 2018 Camry HSD has 176hp + 32hp for 208. This is a good sign for 250h powertrain, it will have a nice electric boost.

I thought the Camry uses a 25kW battery so I assumed 35hp from batteries. But 3hp is not a big deal. The idea is that it will use Camry hybrid's battery instead of the less powerful Prius battery.

spwolf

So 35hp max battery output, not bad.

edit: NA 2018 Camry HSD has 176hp + 32hp for 208. This is a good sign for 250h powertrain, it will have a nice electric boost.

I thought the Camry uses a 25kW battery so I assumed 35hp from batteries. But 3hp is not a big deal. The idea is that it will use Camry hybrid's battery instead of the less powerful Prius battery.

ssun30

I thought the Camry uses a 25kW battery so I assumed 35hp from batteries. But 3hp is not a big deal. The idea is that it will use Camry hybrid's battery instead of the less powerful Prius battery.

Yes, the difference might be simply in the way of measuring hp.

As you say, as long as it is 50% more than Prius, that's good.

Is there any performance info?

ssun30

I thought the Camry uses a 25kW battery so I assumed 35hp from batteries. But 3hp is not a big deal. The idea is that it will use Camry hybrid's battery instead of the less powerful Prius battery.

Yes, the difference might be simply in the way of measuring hp.

As you say, as long as it is 50% more than Prius, that's good.

Is there any performance info?

ssun30

I thought the Camry uses a 25kW battery so I assumed 35hp from batteries. But 3hp is not a big deal. The idea is that it will use Camry hybrid's battery instead of the less powerful Prius battery.

Yes, the difference might be simply in the way of measuring hp.

As you say, as long as it is 50% more than Prius, that's good.

Is there any performance info?

TOYOTA just announced new 2.0l petrol, hybrid and new awd and e-awd systems as well as new direct shift cvt and 6mt.

All of these will likely debut in new UX in 2 weeks.

Interesting part is video showing performance between old and new awd.... I am pretty sure it shows difference between chr and ux, but cars are blanked out... Still nice video:



Basically it solves a problem that dynamic systems have when a wheel is in the air, as we can see in all those videos where rav4 cant climb steps and ditches.

TOYOTA just announced new 2.0l petrol, hybrid and new awd and e-awd systems as well as new direct shift cvt and 6mt.

All of these will likely debut in new UX in 2 weeks.

Interesting part is video showing performance between old and new awd.... I am pretty sure it shows difference between chr and ux, but cars are blanked out... Still nice video:



Basically it solves a problem that dynamic systems have when a wheel is in the air, as we can see in all those videos where rav4 cant climb steps and ditches.

TOYOTA just announced new 2.0l petrol, hybrid and new awd and e-awd systems as well as new direct shift cvt and 6mt.

All of these will likely debut in new UX in 2 weeks.

Interesting part is video showing performance between old and new awd.... I am pretty sure it shows difference between chr and ux, but cars are blanked out... Still nice video:



Basically it solves a problem that dynamic systems have when a wheel is in the air, as we can see in all those videos where rav4 cant climb steps and ditches.

Nice, it is time for TMC to have a new AWD system with torque vectoring rather than wheel braking. But is is only rear axle right-left torque vectoring, or vectoring each wheel individually? This is definitely needed for the new Land Cruiser, the current one not having rear differential lock, and the Prado deactivating front axle traction control when rear diff lock is engaged.

For proper off-roading (does not concern Lexus, but Toyota), I would like them to stick with solid axles and three diff locks (LC 70).

Nice, it is time for TMC to have a new AWD system with torque vectoring rather than wheel braking. But is is only rear axle right-left torque vectoring, or vectoring each wheel individually? This is definitely needed for the new Land Cruiser, the current one not having rear differential lock, and the Prado deactivating front axle traction control when rear diff lock is engaged.

For proper off-roading (does not concern Lexus, but Toyota), I would like them to stick with solid axles and three diff locks (LC 70).

Nice, it is time for TMC to have a new AWD system with torque vectoring rather than wheel braking. But is is only rear axle right-left torque vectoring, or vectoring each wheel individually? This is definitely needed for the new Land Cruiser, the current one not having rear differential lock, and the Prado deactivating front axle traction control when rear diff lock is engaged.

For proper off-roading (does not concern Lexus, but Toyota), I would like them to stick with solid axles and three diff locks (LC 70).

Levi

Nice, it is time for TMC to have a new AWD system with torque vectoring rather than wheel braking. But is is only rear axle right-left torque vectoring, or vectoring each wheel individually? This is definitely needed for the new Land Cruiser, the current one not having rear differential lock, and the Prado deactivating front axle traction control when rear diff lock is engaged.

For proper off-roading (does not concern Lexus, but Toyota), I would like them to stick with solid axles and three diff locks (LC 70).

This is specific system for part time awds, like in fwd applications, as in rav4, chr, nx, ux, etc.

It debuts in 10 days in new lexus ux.

Levi

Nice, it is time for TMC to have a new AWD system with torque vectoring rather than wheel braking. But is is only rear axle right-left torque vectoring, or vectoring each wheel individually? This is definitely needed for the new Land Cruiser, the current one not having rear differential lock, and the Prado deactivating front axle traction control when rear diff lock is engaged.

For proper off-roading (does not concern Lexus, but Toyota), I would like them to stick with solid axles and three diff locks (LC 70).

This is specific system for part time awds, like in fwd applications, as in rav4, chr, nx, ux, etc.

It debuts in 10 days in new lexus ux.

Levi

Nice, it is time for TMC to have a new AWD system with torque vectoring rather than wheel braking. But is is only rear axle right-left torque vectoring, or vectoring each wheel individually? This is definitely needed for the new Land Cruiser, the current one not having rear differential lock, and the Prado deactivating front axle traction control when rear diff lock is engaged.

For proper off-roading (does not concern Lexus, but Toyota), I would like them to stick with solid axles and three diff locks (LC 70).

This is specific system for part time awds, like in fwd applications, as in rav4, chr, nx, ux, etc.

It debuts in 10 days in new lexus ux.

I expect to LF-1 to have a similar set up, but reversed as RWD application.

I expect to LF-1 to have a similar set up, but reversed as RWD application.

I expect to LF-1 to have a similar set up, but reversed as RWD application.