Interview with Lexus LS Interior Designer Junko Itou


Design Milk has an insightful interview with Lexus LS interior designer Junko Itou on the need to balance tradition with innovation inside the flagship sedan:

Design Milk: Is there any friction in the process of bridging tradition with the necessity of innovation?

Junko Itou: No. While I admit there is difficulty in simultaneously working between tradition and progress, I find the conflicting elements can ultimately create harmony. We believe that we are the brand who always overcomes these difficulties. It is Lexus. We believe the definition of luxury changes over time, and it is our mission to balance traditional and visionary luxury.

Design Milk: There seems to be a material narrative across every panel and surface inside your design – distinct yet coexisting harmoniously. What was the process in determining which materials to use and how to coordinate their coexistence without creating visual/tactile disharmony?

Junko Itou: We’ve been thinking how we can make things seem conflicting, yet compatible at a high level when choosing each material. Also, choosing materials in line with interior designer’s intention is paramount. To coordinate the coexistence of several materials, we began by formulating three concepts: Superior, Emotional, and Timeless.

Based on each of those themes, we selected color, material and finish as our focus. As the idea of the LS interior world became clear, we were able to coordinate the appropriate color, material and finish, even if it seemed difficult. Additionally, Takumi craftsmanship was necessary to complete it.

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mikeavelli
Its a new color called "Manganese" per KREW at the show......

The LS in Atomic Silver will be mind-blowing. I'm sure you will buy one in two weeks :D
LOL, if it were out, yes. My eye is on the LC or the next Supra but that's another discussion for another time :D
A Lexus UK blog post ( http://blog.lexus.co.uk/dynamics-of-the-all-new-lexus-ls/ ) says that "...the new LS has a wide and low design and is only offered in long wheelbase form." Thus, it's safe to say that the notion of a SWB Lexus LS is now dead, and that Lexus intends to follow the future Cadillac playbook in offering only a single wheelbase per car line, versus the Germans' SWB/LWB strategies.
Joaquin Ruhi
A Lexus UK blog post ( http://blog.lexus.co.uk/dynamics-of-the-all-new-lexus-ls/ ) says that "...the new LS has a wide and low design and is only offered in long wheelbase form." Thus, it's safe to say that the notion of a SWB Lexus LS is now dead, and that Lexus intends to follow the future Cadillac playbook in offering only a single wheelbase per car line, versus the Germans' SWB/LWB strategies.
Thanks. In the USA, the 7 and S are now LWB only. The A8 is LWB only and the S8 is SWB. The Panamera is SWB and LWB. Quattroporte as well. The Genesis as well.

GS will have to grow substantially next generation.
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I agree with what people are saying about we expected more. When you are forced to wait 11 years for a new design, you expect something to shock you. Personally, I was hoping for an LC sedan. This is not that. I do find it gorgeous, but yes, it's very underwhelming. The rear design is a poor replica of the ES and Avalon. The headlights...oh, man the headlights...I just do not understand the separate DRL Lexus has been doing. The LS is suppose to be elegant and the headlight ruins that. The shape also was too Nissan/Buick to me. I'm a fan, but I just wish it was just one step higher than what we received. It's like this should have come out in 2012 as a 2013 model. It worries me that we may now have this model for another 11 years. Did anyone see the (potential) Altima concept? It's already looking as good as the new LS. In conclusion: gorgeous car, but poorly executed.
Where's the new LS that's suppose to debut, it's suppose to look like the LF-LC? This is the LS that was suppose to be shown at the 2012 NAIAS.

What is so bold about this LS? Lexus has lost it's way since the very first model to feature the F-Mesh Grille, the 3rd Gen IS F Sport, now they seem too caught up in putting spindle grilles on everything, and it is starting to look boring. (And the refreshed versions of the F-Sport IS and GS look awful, btw.) This design is not polarizing in the least. It looks good, it doesn't hurt my eyes, but it certainly doesn't keep my eyes on it. There's nothing radical about it, it looks nothing like the LF-FC, the profile on the LF-FC is incredible, the interior is not what I was expecting either. This thing is a disappointment.

Hopefully the Toyota Supra is unveiled and it isn't ugly.
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  • January 9, 2017
As with any new Lexus vehicle, pictures don't accurately capture exterior styling, so despite personally being a bit underwhelmed exterior-wise, I wouldn't judge it fully until seeing it in the metal on the roads.

Looking at the press conference again from Jeff Bracken, it is indicated that the V6 engine is "all new". So that sounds like it is not a GR design, but certainly one of the new TNGA modular engines. Also to further expand on the electric wastegates of this new engine, after further thought, this is actually a very exciting little tidbit hidden in the press release. Toyota has for years done a lot of research on electric turbos, with nothing to ever show for it. Now though, with electric wastegates, this new engine has at the very least, partial electric assistance for the turbo system. This is exciting because of the potential for having very little or no turbo lag at all, as well as improved reliability.

The biggest thing that I hoped for from the 5LS, which it seems so far will not be offered, was a possible "super luxury" package, above anything existing, to further elevate the LS. Also it looks doubtful that the 5LS has anything equivalent to the Magic Body Control on the S Class, but we'll see.
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Ian Schmidt
Yup. If you've seen HGTV lately, you've noticed their designers all took an abrupt turn around 2014. Now, large clean surfaces with nothing breaking them up are in, as are grey colors and aluminum trim. To me, the 5LS fits all this to a "T". It's not an accident they're showing it in Atomic Silver (err, Manganese, as per Mike).
spot on ...
CIF
Looking at the press conference again from Jeff Bracken, it is indicated that the V6 engine is "all new". So that sounds like it is not a GR design, but certainly one of the new TNGA modular engines
I dunno. When the latest Toyota Tacoma was launched, descriptions of an "all-new" V6 were bandied about in the news releases, but it was ultimately just the dual-cycle FKS evolution of the 2GR-FSE. Until Lexus breaks its silence on the engine code, we can't really be sure whether this is an all-new V6 family or just a further GR evolution.
Joaquin Ruhi
I dunno. When the latest Toyota Tacoma was launched, descriptions of an "all-new" V6 were bandied about in the news releases, but it was ultimately just the dual-cycle FKS evolution of the 2GR-FSE. Until Lexus breaks its silence on the engine code, we can't really be sure whether this is an all-new V6 family or just a further GR evolution.
it will be another GR for sure, which does not mean it is not all new :)
I was kind of dissapointed with exterior, which is good but not as awesome as concept... but we already knew from our friend car designer that concept was designed long after new LS was done.

After watching all the pics and seeing showfloor pics, it started to grow on me... interior is really good, details are crazy... did you guys notice ML speaker grille design? Or that next to the huge screen there is some kind of screen as well with some backlighting designes or something?

I am on vacation so cant post too many pics, but all the pics from the show, real life, are really nice.

Engine sounds awesome, UK press release says 0-62mph in 4.5s for AWD model.
This design definitely has to grow on me, not really feeling that Q70/Altima rear. The new Camry looks very nice though!
So No more V8 for the LS, thats is sad news indeed , but overall its a dope looking Limo love the front predator grill interior is outstanding.
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Joaquin Ruhi
I dunno. When the latest Toyota Tacoma was launched, descriptions of an "all-new" V6 were bandied about in the news releases, but it was ultimately just the dual-cycle FKS evolution of the 2GR-FSE. Until Lexus breaks its silence on the engine code, we can't really be sure whether this is an all-new V6 family or just a further GR evolution.
A fair point, however Toyota's TNGA press release a few weeks back, in the technical documents showed a whole new family of TNGA engines coming in the future. Also one reason why I think it's not a GR engine, is if you look at the pics on Toyota's Global/Japan press release. The pics show the engine being very wide, and low. The V angle definitely looks different than a GR engine. Furthermore, in comparison to the current FKS GR engine, this Lexus engine has a very large HP increase, and an absolutely massive torque increase. In fact, as of now so far, this is the highest torque engine Toyota has ever offered in any model under any ToMoCo brand. I don't think that twin turbos alone, even if combined with some electric technologies can account for this. I think a new engine design combined with these technologies does account for it. Also Jeff Bracken mentioned the new Lexus engine as being a "long stroke" engine, which is a hallmark of the new TNGA Dynamic Force modular engine concept. I am 99% convinced it truly is an all new TNGA Dynamic Force engine.
CIF
A fair point, however Toyota's TNGA press release a few weeks back, in the technical documents showed a whole new family of TNGA engines coming in the future. Also one reason why I think it's not a GR engine, is if you look at the pics on Toyota's Global/Japan press release. The pics show the engine being very wide, and low. The V angle definitely looks different than a GR engine. Furthermore, in comparison to the current FKS GR engine, this Lexus engine has a very large HP increase, and an absolutely massive torque increase. In fact, as of now so far, this is the highest torque engine Toyota has ever offered in any model under any ToMoCo brand. I don't think that twin turbos alone, even if combined with some electric technologies can account for this. I think a new engine design combined with these technologies does account for it. Also Jeff Bracken mentioned the new Lexus engine as being a "long stroke" engine, which is a hallmark of the new TNGA Dynamic Force modular engine concept. I am 99% convinced it truly is an all new TNGA Dynamic Force engine.
Excellent observations.
Well the Camry continues with the same 3.5 but new 4 cylinder.

How will this work for the IS/GS I wonder? Will they get 415hp too or detuned to 400 or less? The LS then needs a V-8 option to seperate itself. As of now, the GS has a V-8 but not the LS!
mikeavelli
Well the Camry continues with the same 3.5 but new 4 cylinder.

How will this work for the IS/GS I wonder? Will they get 415hp too or detuned to 400 or less? The LS then needs a V-8 option to seperate itself. As of now, the GS has a V-8 but not the LS!
Camry gets updated V6 from late 2016 with around 300hp. Lots of changes in that engine, it is excellent engine.

As to the V8, I bet F will get V8 and also pictures released already showed Hybrid model :)
Well now that's it out how long do we have to wait for road reviews of the car? Cause let's be honest the whole point of a car is to drive it
James
Well now that's it out how long do we have to wait for road reviews of the car? Cause let's be honest the whole point of a car is to drive it
both LS and new Camry will likely feel completely different once you sit down... due to new platform, even sitting in will be completely different experience due to different positions of the seats.
Having been shown the LS500h shortly before hearing abandonment of V8 rumours last year, I hadn't really heard a lick about the petrol LS500 saloon and what "500" stood for there. All I heard at most, was that there would be a TTV6. I did not know whether it would wear the LS350 badge or not, so now I have learned otherwise to my disappointment. Other than styling, the hybrid, and Tesla's Model S being an influence, I really did not learn much about the car.

Back then I naturally dismissed information via the Lexus UK representative and dealer that a V8 would truly not be offered. I had chalked that up to maybe just the UK and some Eurasian markets, the same way the Land Cruiser V8 is gone from the UK and that of BMW's 750i V8. I can be unfortunately presumptuous like that, only to learn otherwise later. That Lexus guy had a point and so did White Beach and Mag-X.

Interestingly, I also get the impression development couldn't have been underway prior to 2011 for sure and styling was an 18 months or more effort through mid-2014. Toshio Asahi, was chief engineer of the XV60 6ES, which barely ended development in late 2011-early 2012. What is the real story here? He couldn't have been working on this car back in 2010, the very same year that 6ES development reached a pivotal point.

Anyway, I had said that the mesh grille would become standard on the base model and no longer an F-Sport exclusive over a year ago. There's is more to see regarding the new LS, but I will now zeroing in now on F performance products and the future of the GS being in jeopardy, as well as LX redesign.

I do apologise to anyone who felt mislead by me adamantly claiming that LS500 stood for the 2UR-GSE V8 and not V35A-FTS TTV6. Naturally I had expected them to not use the same nomenclature (XX500) for entirely different engines, hoping this TTV6 was really LS350.

So what is GS300, RX300, and NX300 then? Twin-turbo I4?

Joaquin Ruhi
I dunno. When the latest Toyota Tacoma was launched, descriptions of an "all-new" V6 were bandied about in the news releases, but it was ultimately just the dual-cycle FKS evolution of the 2GR-FSE. Until Lexus breaks its silence on the engine code, we can't really be sure whether this is an all-new V6 family or just a further GR evolution.
It is a new engine, part of TNGA family. It's not a GR anymore.

spwolf
it will be another GR for sure, which does not mean it is not all new :)
No, it's an entirely new engine. Engine code is V35A-FTS
I got a text with the press brochure....

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Carmaker1
It is a new engine, part of TNGA family. It's not a GR anymore.



No, it's an entirely new engine. Engine code is V35A-FTS
Thank you!
corradoMR2
Since owning the RC F and enjoying the 5L V8, to be honest, I'm more than fine with the new V6TT in the LS while keeping the V8 to the sportier more visceral LC. I bet the new V6TT is smoother, quieter, and with more low end torque (something the V8 is missing until about 3600 rpm), which is more appropriate in a serene premium luxury sedan. I bet if the 5L V8 was the engine, we'd be complaining about its age, etc.

A quick note to point out regarding nomenclature. We now see that Lexus may or may not incorporate "t" or "tt"in their car names. This opens the door to future speculation on new car name registrations that do not have any "t" in it. I'm fine with that since the LS 500's name is far better suited in terms of lineage and prestige over an "LS 350tt"! :)

As for future V8s in the LS... I'm definitely still wanting one in it but I like the idea of a V8TT exclusive to the LS F. :thumbsup:
Yea i was thinking about this, reminding me that while back, new trade marks were registered for the RX, GS and NX, 300 if i am not mistaken.
Could this mean that they're ditching the "t" like the others ?
Would this mean that new engine choices would be offered for the RX, GS and NX ?
Dissapointed seeing a CD/DVD player! Is anyone using this now days. Better streaming and Apple car play / Google play where are you ?!?
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Also: the full press conference from Detroit.
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Blom1974
Dissapointed seeing a CD/DVD player! Is anyone using this now days. Better streaming and Apple car play / Google play where are you ?!?
I assume even with improvements in tech, to get the best sound quality you need the approprate CD....
Okay I did some research on competitors to the LS.

The Audi A8 3.0 (V6) goes 0-60 in 5.5 sec.
The Audi A8 4.0 (V8) goes 0-60 in 4.4 sec.
The Audi S8 4.0 (V8) goes 0-60 in 3.7 sec.
The Audi RS7 4.0 (V8) goes 0-60 in 3.6 sec.
The BMW 740 3.0 (V6) goes 0-60 in 5.4 sec.
The BMW 750 4.4 (V8) goes 0-60 in 4.3 sec.
The BMW 760M (V12) goes 0-60 in 3.6 sec.
The MB S550 4.7 (V8) goes 0-60 in 4.8 sec.
The MB S600 6.0 (V12) goes 0-60 in 4.5 sec.
The MB S63 5.5 (V8) goes 0-60 in 3.9 sec.
The MB S65 6.0 (V12) goes 0-60 in 4.2 sec.

The new LS is projected to get about 4.5 secs with a turbo V6. Which means it is only .1 or .2 slower than the BMW 550, MB 600, and Audi A8 4.0 which are all V8's. Lexus is very close with a V6 and hopefully even gets better gas millage than those German cars. Or even Lexus now gets the we are better for the environment crap cause we have a V6 instead of a V8. Now does the Lexus need a V8? Absolutely it does. A twin turbo V8 can hopefully get them to the BMW 760M and Audi RS7 range of 3.6 secs. If Lexus can do that I think the LS will be even more successful than it already is. The inside of this LS is great and just wait for the different colors to come out. Also, I think the biggest mistake by Lexus for this was the rim choice. I agree those aren't that great of a choice but wait I am sure they will come out with one that will blow your pants off that also will make the car much better. I am excited for this LS and very excited to see it in person here shortly this weekend. The LS and LC are great cars and I think 2017 will be a great year for Lexus. As a lot of people have said wait to see it live and in person before you truly bash it.
For the record I'm 37 and a life Lexus fan. This LS is the first I'm excited about. The recent RX was the first RX I loved as well. I've always had a close love with the IS and GS line.

Although the LS is closely resembling the Genesis and Q70 (which I agree) however it is what Lexus needs. The new 7 is in trouble because they focused on tech and not design. The 4 LS interior is stunning like a Maybach MB, RR or Bentley! For a fraction of the price like what they did in the 90s. That is exactly what the Lexus LS stands for. Let the Genesis be the 90 Lexus to the S class, now the LS is the for today.

I can't see Lexus making this a SWB, it just doesn't make sense. I'm just sad to see the LS 600hL go. What a marvelous automotive art.
James
Okay I did some research on competitors to the LS.

The Audi A8 3.0 (V6) goes 0-60 in 5.5 sec.
The Audi A8 4.0 (V8) goes 0-60 in 4.4 sec.
The Audi S8 4.0 (V8) goes 0-60 in 3.7 sec.
The Audi RS7 4.0 (V8) goes 0-60 in 3.6 sec.
The BMW 740 3.0 (V6) goes 0-60 in 5.4 sec.
The BMW 750 4.4 (V8) goes 0-60 in 4.3 sec.
The BMW 760M (V12) goes 0-60 in 3.6 sec.
The MB S550 4.7 (V8) goes 0-60 in 4.8 sec.
The MB S600 6.0 (V12) goes 0-60 in 4.5 sec.
The MB S63 5.5 (V8) goes 0-60 in 3.9 sec.
The MB S65 6.0 (V12) goes 0-60 in 4.2 sec.

The new LS is projected to get about 4.5 secs with a turbo V6. Which means it is only .1 or .2 slower than the BMW 550, MB 600, and Audi A8 4.0 which are all V8's. Lexus is very close with a V6 and hopefully even gets better gas millage than those German cars. Or even Lexus now gets the we are better for the environment crap cause we have a V6 instead of a V8. Now does the Lexus need a V8? Absolutely it does. A twin turbo V8 can hopefully get them to the BMW 760M and Audi RS7 range of 3.6 secs. If Lexus can do that I think the LS will be even more successful than it already is. The inside of this LS is great and just wait for the different colors to come out. Also, I think the biggest mistake by Lexus for this was the rim choice. I agree those aren't that great of a choice but wait I am sure they will come out with one that will blow your pants off that also will make the car much better. I am excited for this LS and very excited to see it in person here shortly this weekend. The LS and LC are great cars and I think 2017 will be a great year for Lexus. As a lot of people have said wait to see it live and in person before you truly bash it.
There's no BMW V6. ;)
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In the live reveal, Bracken reviewed the wheel options... but that was clipped from the version that was put online. I wonder why?
Carmaker1
There's no BMW V6. ;)
Isn't the 740i a 3.0L V6?

740i: Advanced innovations like Valvetronic technology help this unique 3.0-liter inline 6-cylinder engine enhance performance and efficiency. Proof of its power is in the numbers: 320 hp, a 0-60 time of 5.4 seconds, redlining at an amazing 6500 rpm, and peak torque of 332 lb-ft that kicks in at 1380 rpm and continues to push you back in your seat all the way to 5000 rpm.

I was taking it from there site lol
James
Isn't the 740i a 3.0L V6?

740i: Advanced innovations like Valvetronic technology help this unique 3.0-liter inline 6-cylinder engine enhance performance and efficiency. Proof of its power is in the numbers: 320 hp, a 0-60 time of 5.4 seconds, redlining at an amazing 6500 rpm, and peak torque of 332 lb-ft that kicks in at 1380 rpm and continues to push you back in your seat all the way to 5000 rpm.

I was taking it from there site lol
He's meaning it's I6 not V6

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