Video & Photo Gallery: 2018 Lexus LS 500 in Manganese Luster

Serpens

While I agree the Lexus solution is far more artful, there's no reason to put the Audi's interior in quotes. That's one of the best interiors in its class; it's actually very well done, as is the Q7 in general. Shame about that exterior though...

I know it's a matter for another thread, but surprised that anyone thinks the Q7 interior is anything close to best in class. Only Audi could get away with that much black plastic and not be heckled for it.

Serpens

While I agree the Lexus solution is far more artful, there's no reason to put the Audi's interior in quotes. That's one of the best interiors in its class; it's actually very well done, as is the Q7 in general. Shame about that exterior though...

I know it's a matter for another thread, but surprised that anyone thinks the Q7 interior is anything close to best in class. Only Audi could get away with that much black plastic and not be heckled for it.

Gecko

I know it's a matter for another thread, but surprised that anyone thinks the Q7 interior is anything close to best in class. Only Audi could get away with that much black plastic and not be heckled for it.

Have you been in other cars in that class? Not uncommon-GX460, GLE-class, X5, RR Sport all have plenty of plastic. Even the XC90 does, although that is my favorite in the class.

I think that's one of the most interesting elements of the full-size sedan class these days. Cars like the LS500, S-class, 7-series, etc. that start in the $80k-$90k range don't yet have SUV equivalents that start at the same prices, so their interiors are usually much nicer.

I can't wait to see the pricing of the LS500. I really hope Lexus charges a premium compared to the LS460, as I think it's about time they priced the car for its worth.

Gecko

I know it's a matter for another thread, but surprised that anyone thinks the Q7 interior is anything close to best in class. Only Audi could get away with that much black plastic and not be heckled for it.

Have you been in other cars in that class? Not uncommon-GX460, GLE-class, X5, RR Sport all have plenty of plastic. Even the XC90 does, although that is my favorite in the class.

I think that's one of the most interesting elements of the full-size sedan class these days. Cars like the LS500, S-class, 7-series, etc. that start in the $80k-$90k range don't yet have SUV equivalents that start at the same prices, so their interiors are usually much nicer.

I can't wait to see the pricing of the LS500. I really hope Lexus charges a premium compared to the LS460, as I think it's about time they priced the car for its worth.

Gecko

I know it's a matter for another thread, but surprised that anyone thinks the Q7 interior is anything close to best in class. Only Audi could get away with that much black plastic and not be heckled for it.

Have you been in other cars in that class? Not uncommon-GX460, GLE-class, X5, RR Sport all have plenty of plastic. Even the XC90 does, although that is my favorite in the class.

I think that's one of the most interesting elements of the full-size sedan class these days. Cars like the LS500, S-class, 7-series, etc. that start in the $80k-$90k range don't yet have SUV equivalents that start at the same prices, so their interiors are usually much nicer.

I can't wait to see the pricing of the LS500. I really hope Lexus charges a premium compared to the LS460, as I think it's about time they priced the car for its worth.

Gecko

I know it's a matter for another thread, but surprised that anyone thinks the Q7 interior is anything close to best in class. Only Audi could get away with that much black plastic and not be heckled for it.

Have you been in other cars in that class? Not uncommon-GX460, GLE-class, X5, RR Sport all have plenty of plastic. Even the XC90 does, although that is my favorite in the class.

I think that's one of the most interesting elements of the full-size sedan class these days. Cars like the LS500, S-class, 7-series, etc. that start in the $80k-$90k range don't yet have SUV equivalents that start at the same prices, so their interiors are usually much nicer.

I can't wait to see the pricing of the LS500. I really hope Lexus charges a premium compared to the LS460, as I think it's about time they priced the car for its worth.

Black Dynamite

It's been a couple of days and I feel no better about being swerved by Lexus on the concept. The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car. This car looks weak and lacks every ounce of presence the LF-FC had.
BD

I see some people have been spoiled rotten by the LC and thus expects every production Lexus car to look like it's concept version.

I really don't think its a reasonable expectation to have. Concepts are meant to be forward looking exercises in design. Some results are more realistic than others. The LS concept had hologram technology, do you expect in-car hologram wave sensing technology in late 2017 too?

Or should Lexus just have given up on that part of the concept simply because you believe, "The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car".

Black Dynamite

It's been a couple of days and I feel no better about being swerved by Lexus on the concept. The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car. This car looks weak and lacks every ounce of presence the LF-FC had.
BD

I see some people have been spoiled rotten by the LC and thus expects every production Lexus car to look like it's concept version.

I really don't think its a reasonable expectation to have. Concepts are meant to be forward looking exercises in design. Some results are more realistic than others. The LS concept had hologram technology, do you expect in-car hologram wave sensing technology in late 2017 too?

Or should Lexus just have given up on that part of the concept simply because you believe, "The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car".

Black Dynamite

It's been a couple of days and I feel no better about being swerved by Lexus on the concept. The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car. This car looks weak and lacks every ounce of presence the LF-FC had.
BD

I see some people have been spoiled rotten by the LC and thus expects every production Lexus car to look like it's concept version.

I really don't think its a reasonable expectation to have. Concepts are meant to be forward looking exercises in design. Some results are more realistic than others. The LS concept had hologram technology, do you expect in-car hologram wave sensing technology in late 2017 too?

Or should Lexus just have given up on that part of the concept simply because you believe, "The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car".

Black Dynamite

It's been a couple of days and I feel no better about being swerved by Lexus on the concept. The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car. This car looks weak and lacks every ounce of presence the LF-FC had.
BD

I see some people have been spoiled rotten by the LC and thus expects every production Lexus car to look like it's concept version.

I really don't think its a reasonable expectation to have. Concepts are meant to be forward looking exercises in design. Some results are more realistic than others. The LS concept had hologram technology, do you expect in-car hologram wave sensing technology in late 2017 too?

Or should Lexus just have given up on that part of the concept simply because you believe, "The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car".

Joaquin Ruhi

and wish they hadn't fallen into the German (and Lexus' own hybrid) inflated number naming conventions. (Why not just call it an LS 350t? It would be so much more honest)

The number 500 gives the illusion that the car is much more powerful and prestigious than saying 350. If we had the number 350, that would look bad IMO because it would seem like it has the same engine in the IS. 500 makes more sense because it has the power of a 5 liter V8 but in reality it is a 3.5 liter TTV6

Joaquin Ruhi

and wish they hadn't fallen into the German (and Lexus' own hybrid) inflated number naming conventions. (Why not just call it an LS 350t? It would be so much more honest)

The number 500 gives the illusion that the car is much more powerful and prestigious than saying 350. If we had the number 350, that would look bad IMO because it would seem like it has the same engine in the IS. 500 makes more sense because it has the power of a 5 liter V8 but in reality it is a 3.5 liter TTV6

Joaquin Ruhi

and wish they hadn't fallen into the German (and Lexus' own hybrid) inflated number naming conventions. (Why not just call it an LS 350t? It would be so much more honest)

The number 500 gives the illusion that the car is much more powerful and prestigious than saying 350. If we had the number 350, that would look bad IMO because it would seem like it has the same engine in the IS. 500 makes more sense because it has the power of a 5 liter V8 but in reality it is a 3.5 liter TTV6

Joaquin Ruhi

and wish they hadn't fallen into the German (and Lexus' own hybrid) inflated number naming conventions. (Why not just call it an LS 350t? It would be so much more honest)

The number 500 gives the illusion that the car is much more powerful and prestigious than saying 350. If we had the number 350, that would look bad IMO because it would seem like it has the same engine in the IS. 500 makes more sense because it has the power of a 5 liter V8 but in reality it is a 3.5 liter TTV6

meth.ix

The number 500 gives the illusion that the car is much more powerful and prestigious than saying 350. If we had the number 350, that would look bad IMO because it would seem like it has the same engine in the IS. 500 makes more sense because it has the power of a 5 liter V8 but in reality it is a 3.5 liter TTV6

I understand that's the rationale that Lexus' new LS, BMW and Mercedes are using, but I guess I personally prefer the approach Lexus used with the NX 200t and Audi's (which uses the actual displacement in liters plus a "t" do denote boost in its badges beyond the A, Q or R model names) versus the arbitrary equivalencies. And now, at Lexus, "500" is just as likely to denote a 5-liter V8 as a 3.5-liter twin turbo V6. How do you tell them apart were Lexus to offer the 5-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the LS or the 3.5-liter twin turbo in the LC?

meth.ix

The number 500 gives the illusion that the car is much more powerful and prestigious than saying 350. If we had the number 350, that would look bad IMO because it would seem like it has the same engine in the IS. 500 makes more sense because it has the power of a 5 liter V8 but in reality it is a 3.5 liter TTV6

I understand that's the rationale that Lexus' new LS, BMW and Mercedes are using, but I guess I personally prefer the approach Lexus used with the NX 200t and Audi's (which uses the actual displacement in liters plus a "t" do denote boost in its badges beyond the A, Q or R model names) versus the arbitrary equivalencies. And now, at Lexus, "500" is just as likely to denote a 5-liter V8 as a 3.5-liter twin turbo V6. How do you tell them apart were Lexus to offer the 5-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the LS or the 3.5-liter twin turbo in the LC?

meth.ix

The number 500 gives the illusion that the car is much more powerful and prestigious than saying 350. If we had the number 350, that would look bad IMO because it would seem like it has the same engine in the IS. 500 makes more sense because it has the power of a 5 liter V8 but in reality it is a 3.5 liter TTV6

I understand that's the rationale that Lexus' new LS, BMW and Mercedes are using, but I guess I personally prefer the approach Lexus used with the NX 200t and Audi's (which uses the actual displacement in liters plus a "t" do denote boost in its badges beyond the A, Q or R model names) versus the arbitrary equivalencies. And now, at Lexus, "500" is just as likely to denote a 5-liter V8 as a 3.5-liter twin turbo V6. How do you tell them apart were Lexus to offer the 5-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the LS or the 3.5-liter twin turbo in the LC?

meth.ix

The number 500 gives the illusion that the car is much more powerful and prestigious than saying 350. If we had the number 350, that would look bad IMO because it would seem like it has the same engine in the IS. 500 makes more sense because it has the power of a 5 liter V8 but in reality it is a 3.5 liter TTV6

I understand that's the rationale that Lexus' new LS, BMW and Mercedes are using, but I guess I personally prefer the approach Lexus used with the NX 200t and Audi's (which uses the actual displacement in liters plus a "t" do denote boost in its badges beyond the A, Q or R model names) versus the arbitrary equivalencies. And now, at Lexus, "500" is just as likely to denote a 5-liter V8 as a 3.5-liter twin turbo V6. How do you tell them apart were Lexus to offer the 5-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the LS or the 3.5-liter twin turbo in the LC?

zeusus

I see some people have been spoiled rotten by the LC and thus expects every production Lexus car to look like it's concept version.

I really don't think its a reasonable expectation to have. Concepts are meant to be forward looking exercises in design. Some results are more realistic than others. The LS concept had hologram technology, do you expect in-car hologram wave sensing technology in late 2017 too?

Or should Lexus just have given up on that part of the concept simply because you believe, "The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car".

I will admit Im disappointed the FC didnt translate directly into production like the LC as I expected. However I must say Im not disappointed in this execution. After a few days of studying the design, Im falling in love. I can only imagine it looks better in person and in other colors (deep blue, white, black)

zeusus

I see some people have been spoiled rotten by the LC and thus expects every production Lexus car to look like it's concept version.

I really don't think its a reasonable expectation to have. Concepts are meant to be forward looking exercises in design. Some results are more realistic than others. The LS concept had hologram technology, do you expect in-car hologram wave sensing technology in late 2017 too?

Or should Lexus just have given up on that part of the concept simply because you believe, "The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car".

I will admit Im disappointed the FC didnt translate directly into production like the LC as I expected. However I must say Im not disappointed in this execution. After a few days of studying the design, Im falling in love. I can only imagine it looks better in person and in other colors (deep blue, white, black)

zeusus

I see some people have been spoiled rotten by the LC and thus expects every production Lexus car to look like it's concept version.

I really don't think its a reasonable expectation to have. Concepts are meant to be forward looking exercises in design. Some results are more realistic than others. The LS concept had hologram technology, do you expect in-car hologram wave sensing technology in late 2017 too?

Or should Lexus just have given up on that part of the concept simply because you believe, "The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car".

I will admit Im disappointed the FC didnt translate directly into production like the LC as I expected. However I must say Im not disappointed in this execution. After a few days of studying the design, Im falling in love. I can only imagine it looks better in person and in other colors (deep blue, white, black)

zeusus

I see some people have been spoiled rotten by the LC and thus expects every production Lexus car to look like it's concept version.

I really don't think its a reasonable expectation to have. Concepts are meant to be forward looking exercises in design. Some results are more realistic than others. The LS concept had hologram technology, do you expect in-car hologram wave sensing technology in late 2017 too?

Or should Lexus just have given up on that part of the concept simply because you believe, "The concept shouldn't have been sent out if it had nothing to do with the production car".

I will admit Im disappointed the FC didnt translate directly into production like the LC as I expected. However I must say Im not disappointed in this execution. After a few days of studying the design, Im falling in love. I can only imagine it looks better in person and in other colors (deep blue, white, black)

It's stunning in person. It's a complete 180 from past designs. The box look that was made curvy is now a stylistic knock-out.

You have to see it in person. Especially the front and side. The rear is my least favorite part.

More to come :) KREW will chime in as well.

#lexuslens
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It's stunning in person. It's a complete 180 from past designs. The box look that was made curvy is now a stylistic knock-out.

You have to see it in person. Especially the front and side. The rear is my least favorite part.

More to come :) KREW will chime in as well.

#lexuslens
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It's stunning in person. It's a complete 180 from past designs. The box look that was made curvy is now a stylistic knock-out.

You have to see it in person. Especially the front and side. The rear is my least favorite part.

More to come :) KREW will chime in as well.

#lexuslens
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It's stunning in person. It's a complete 180 from past designs. The box look that was made curvy is now a stylistic knock-out.

You have to see it in person. Especially the front and side. The rear is my least favorite part.

More to come :) KREW will chime in as well.

#lexuslens
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mikeavelli

It's stunning in person. It's a complete 180 in past designs. The box look that was made curvy is now a stylistic knock-out.

You have to see it in person. Especially the front and side. The rear is my least favorite part.

More to come :) KREW will chime in as well.

#lexuslens
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wooooooowwwwww!!! Im now in love

mikeavelli

It's stunning in person. It's a complete 180 in past designs. The box look that was made curvy is now a stylistic knock-out.

You have to see it in person. Especially the front and side. The rear is my least favorite part.

More to come :) KREW will chime in as well.

#lexuslens
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wooooooowwwwww!!! Im now in love

mikeavelli

It's stunning in person. It's a complete 180 in past designs. The box look that was made curvy is now a stylistic knock-out.

You have to see it in person. Especially the front and side. The rear is my least favorite part.

More to come :) KREW will chime in as well.

#lexuslens
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wooooooowwwwww!!! Im now in love

mikeavelli

It's stunning in person. It's a complete 180 in past designs. The box look that was made curvy is now a stylistic knock-out.

You have to see it in person. Especially the front and side. The rear is my least favorite part.

More to come :) KREW will chime in as well.

#lexuslens
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wooooooowwwwww!!! Im now in love