Video & Photo Gallery: 2018 Lexus LS 500 in Autumn Shimmer

Rydo

Also I must point out the fascination with the flush glass on the car is a little fanboyish, my 2007 Honda Legend has the same thing.

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

Rydo

Also I must point out the fascination with the flush glass on the car is a little fanboyish, my 2007 Honda Legend has the same thing.

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

Rydo

Also I must point out the fascination with the flush glass on the car is a little fanboyish, my 2007 Honda Legend has the same thing.

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

Rydo

Also I must point out the fascination with the flush glass on the car is a little fanboyish, my 2007 Honda Legend has the same thing.

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

White Bear

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P.S. The "maturity" of the discussion (both positive and negative) on this site is why it's one of the only places on the internet where I bother reading comments.

good to know ...

White Bear

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P.S. The "maturity" of the discussion (both positive and negative) on this site is why it's one of the only places on the internet where I bother reading comments.

good to know ...

White Bear

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P.S. The "maturity" of the discussion (both positive and negative) on this site is why it's one of the only places on the internet where I bother reading comments.

good to know ...

White Bear

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P.S. The "maturity" of the discussion (both positive and negative) on this site is why it's one of the only places on the internet where I bother reading comments.

good to know ...

Ian Schmidt

I assume there's some as-yet unannounced passenger-side infotainment system. Can anyone at NAIAS fill anything in on that?

Ian, good question will try to find out unless KREW knows...he's pretty pooped from recent extensive travel.

White Bear

. On the upside, the doors and center console are, in my opinion, world class. I can see why this received the best interior award.

P.S. The "maturity" of the discussion (both positive and negative) on this site is why it's one of the only places on the internet where I bother reading comments.

White Bear....very good observation...one can do a 20 minute discussion on the doors alone. The attention to detail is insane. We could not share photos of the interior and it is a pre-production car. More to come soon.

Related I really got to inspect the LC interiors and they are also very well done and the doors are detailed. I saw a few things I didn't notice the first time.

Thanks for the compliments!

Ian Schmidt

I assume there's some as-yet unannounced passenger-side infotainment system. Can anyone at NAIAS fill anything in on that?

Ian, good question will try to find out unless KREW knows...he's pretty pooped from recent extensive travel.

White Bear

. On the upside, the doors and center console are, in my opinion, world class. I can see why this received the best interior award.

P.S. The "maturity" of the discussion (both positive and negative) on this site is why it's one of the only places on the internet where I bother reading comments.

White Bear....very good observation...one can do a 20 minute discussion on the doors alone. The attention to detail is insane. We could not share photos of the interior and it is a pre-production car. More to come soon.

Related I really got to inspect the LC interiors and they are also very well done and the doors are detailed. I saw a few things I didn't notice the first time.

Thanks for the compliments!

Ian Schmidt

I assume there's some as-yet unannounced passenger-side infotainment system. Can anyone at NAIAS fill anything in on that?

Ian, good question will try to find out unless KREW knows...he's pretty pooped from recent extensive travel.

White Bear

. On the upside, the doors and center console are, in my opinion, world class. I can see why this received the best interior award.

P.S. The "maturity" of the discussion (both positive and negative) on this site is why it's one of the only places on the internet where I bother reading comments.

White Bear....very good observation...one can do a 20 minute discussion on the doors alone. The attention to detail is insane. We could not share photos of the interior and it is a pre-production car. More to come soon.

Related I really got to inspect the LC interiors and they are also very well done and the doors are detailed. I saw a few things I didn't notice the first time.

Thanks for the compliments!

Ian Schmidt

I assume there's some as-yet unannounced passenger-side infotainment system. Can anyone at NAIAS fill anything in on that?

Ian, good question will try to find out unless KREW knows...he's pretty pooped from recent extensive travel.

White Bear

. On the upside, the doors and center console are, in my opinion, world class. I can see why this received the best interior award.

P.S. The "maturity" of the discussion (both positive and negative) on this site is why it's one of the only places on the internet where I bother reading comments.

White Bear....very good observation...one can do a 20 minute discussion on the doors alone. The attention to detail is insane. We could not share photos of the interior and it is a pre-production car. More to come soon.

Related I really got to inspect the LC interiors and they are also very well done and the doors are detailed. I saw a few things I didn't notice the first time.

Thanks for the compliments!

Joaquin Ruhi

I understand that's the rationale that Lexus' new LS, BMW and Mercedes are using, but I guess I personally prefer the approach Lexus used with the NX 200t and Audi's (which uses the actual displacement in liters plus a "t" do denote boost in its badges beyond the A, Q or R model names) versus the arbitrary equivalencies. And now, at Lexus, "500" is just as likely to denote a 5-liter V8 as a 3.5-liter twin turbo V6. How do you tell them apart were Lexus to offer the 5-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the LS or the 3.5-liter twin turbo in the LC?

if your competitors are using it, you have to as well or your cars will look lesser...

For people who dont know anything about (these) cars LC500 and LS500 will tell them that they are roughly same speed and very fast (0-60 in 4.5s)... for people who know about cars, they will know exactly which is which.

If one was called LS350t and other LC500, impression to the customer would be that LC500 is much faster, which actually is not the case.

Joaquin Ruhi

I understand that's the rationale that Lexus' new LS, BMW and Mercedes are using, but I guess I personally prefer the approach Lexus used with the NX 200t and Audi's (which uses the actual displacement in liters plus a "t" do denote boost in its badges beyond the A, Q or R model names) versus the arbitrary equivalencies. And now, at Lexus, "500" is just as likely to denote a 5-liter V8 as a 3.5-liter twin turbo V6. How do you tell them apart were Lexus to offer the 5-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the LS or the 3.5-liter twin turbo in the LC?

if your competitors are using it, you have to as well or your cars will look lesser...

For people who dont know anything about (these) cars LC500 and LS500 will tell them that they are roughly same speed and very fast (0-60 in 4.5s)... for people who know about cars, they will know exactly which is which.

If one was called LS350t and other LC500, impression to the customer would be that LC500 is much faster, which actually is not the case.

Joaquin Ruhi

I understand that's the rationale that Lexus' new LS, BMW and Mercedes are using, but I guess I personally prefer the approach Lexus used with the NX 200t and Audi's (which uses the actual displacement in liters plus a "t" do denote boost in its badges beyond the A, Q or R model names) versus the arbitrary equivalencies. And now, at Lexus, "500" is just as likely to denote a 5-liter V8 as a 3.5-liter twin turbo V6. How do you tell them apart were Lexus to offer the 5-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the LS or the 3.5-liter twin turbo in the LC?

if your competitors are using it, you have to as well or your cars will look lesser...

For people who dont know anything about (these) cars LC500 and LS500 will tell them that they are roughly same speed and very fast (0-60 in 4.5s)... for people who know about cars, they will know exactly which is which.

If one was called LS350t and other LC500, impression to the customer would be that LC500 is much faster, which actually is not the case.

Joaquin Ruhi

I understand that's the rationale that Lexus' new LS, BMW and Mercedes are using, but I guess I personally prefer the approach Lexus used with the NX 200t and Audi's (which uses the actual displacement in liters plus a "t" do denote boost in its badges beyond the A, Q or R model names) versus the arbitrary equivalencies. And now, at Lexus, "500" is just as likely to denote a 5-liter V8 as a 3.5-liter twin turbo V6. How do you tell them apart were Lexus to offer the 5-liter naturally aspirated V8 in the LS or the 3.5-liter twin turbo in the LC?

if your competitors are using it, you have to as well or your cars will look lesser...

For people who dont know anything about (these) cars LC500 and LS500 will tell them that they are roughly same speed and very fast (0-60 in 4.5s)... for people who know about cars, they will know exactly which is which.

If one was called LS350t and other LC500, impression to the customer would be that LC500 is much faster, which actually is not the case.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

thanks Mike for great explanation.. wasnt sure what was it exactly but it looks breathtaking in real life pictures... this car will have to be seen to be appreciated properly since there are so many details that make it what it is.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

thanks Mike for great explanation.. wasnt sure what was it exactly but it looks breathtaking in real life pictures... this car will have to be seen to be appreciated properly since there are so many details that make it what it is.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

thanks Mike for great explanation.. wasnt sure what was it exactly but it looks breathtaking in real life pictures... this car will have to be seen to be appreciated properly since there are so many details that make it what it is.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

thanks Mike for great explanation.. wasnt sure what was it exactly but it looks breathtaking in real life pictures... this car will have to be seen to be appreciated properly since there are so many details that make it what it is.

Rydo

Also I must point out the fascination with the flush glass on the car is a little fanboyish, my 2007 Honda Legend has the same thing.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

Nothing fanboish. I did not know about the Honda Legend (very rare in Europe), but if true then yes Honda was the first, many years ago. Glad Lexus did that too.

It is actually the same thing, only that the Honda has a double trim. Both have no frameless windows.


As for Apple Car and Android Auto? Keep that spyware out of my car!!!

Rydo

Also I must point out the fascination with the flush glass on the car is a little fanboyish, my 2007 Honda Legend has the same thing.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

Nothing fanboish. I did not know about the Honda Legend (very rare in Europe), but if true then yes Honda was the first, many years ago. Glad Lexus did that too.

It is actually the same thing, only that the Honda has a double trim. Both have no frameless windows.


As for Apple Car and Android Auto? Keep that spyware out of my car!!!

Rydo

Also I must point out the fascination with the flush glass on the car is a little fanboyish, my 2007 Honda Legend has the same thing.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

Nothing fanboish. I did not know about the Honda Legend (very rare in Europe), but if true then yes Honda was the first, many years ago. Glad Lexus did that too.

It is actually the same thing, only that the Honda has a double trim. Both have no frameless windows.


As for Apple Car and Android Auto? Keep that spyware out of my car!!!

Rydo

Also I must point out the fascination with the flush glass on the car is a little fanboyish, my 2007 Honda Legend has the same thing.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

Nothing fanboish. I did not know about the Honda Legend (very rare in Europe), but if true then yes Honda was the first, many years ago. Glad Lexus did that too.

It is actually the same thing, only that the Honda has a double trim. Both have no frameless windows.


As for Apple Car and Android Auto? Keep that spyware out of my car!!!

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

I appreciate the frameless window however, the chrome piece around the window should have been uninterrupted. A better example of this execution is actually the 2017 Porsche Panamera which looks exactly like this.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

I appreciate the frameless window however, the chrome piece around the window should have been uninterrupted. A better example of this execution is actually the 2017 Porsche Panamera which looks exactly like this.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

I appreciate the frameless window however, the chrome piece around the window should have been uninterrupted. A better example of this execution is actually the 2017 Porsche Panamera which looks exactly like this.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

I appreciate the frameless window however, the chrome piece around the window should have been uninterrupted. A better example of this execution is actually the 2017 Porsche Panamera which looks exactly like this.

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

I can see what you mean now.


Either way we are splitting hairs, it does get a little irritating when everyone is amazed by all this 'newness', my 2007 Legend also has adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist steering. Keep in mind the car actually came out in 2005 in Japan! The good old days when Honda actually tried I suppose. It even has four wheel drive that can deliver more power to individual wheels to pull it around a corner and make it handle amazingly well for a 2.3 ton car...something everyone thinks is space age with the latest NSX and Focus RS for instance...Where is that with this new LS? ;)

Another disclaimer...I'm not here to say how much better Honda are than Lexus...right now Honda suck ass and have given up with Acura brand and anything of interest in Europe, hence why I am looking to the future which I think will be a Lexus!

mikeavelli

Is is not the same thing and not really close. I'm glad you posted here as I need pictures to help better explain.

Here is a 2007 Honda Legend (our Acura RL). The frameless glass is within the door completely. The window ends at the door. Yes this has been done a few times before and relatively easy compared to what Lexus just did.


Here is the 2018 Lexus LS 500 rear window up close. Even the B-Pillar is flush. It gives it a very coupelike profile. Note how not just the window that drops down into the door is frameless but the window trim to the door and after the door into the C Pillar.

It's really a breathtaking piece of work.



Also note everyone how detailed the chrome trim is in the rear. Its not just the usual slab sided piece of chrome.

I can see what you mean now.


Either way we are splitting hairs, it does get a little irritating when everyone is amazed by all this 'newness', my 2007 Legend also has adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist steering. Keep in mind the car actually came out in 2005 in Japan! The good old days when Honda actually tried I suppose. It even has four wheel drive that can deliver more power to individual wheels to pull it around a corner and make it handle amazingly well for a 2.3 ton car...something everyone thinks is space age with the latest NSX and Focus RS for instance...Where is that with this new LS? ;)

Another disclaimer...I'm not here to say how much better Honda are than Lexus...right now Honda suck ass and have given up with Acura brand and anything of interest in Europe, hence why I am looking to the future which I think will be a Lexus!