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Next-Generation Lexus LS in 2016?


Jonny Lieberman of Motor Trend is keeping the rumor train running with new speculation on the next-generation Lexus LS:

While the LS has traditionally been something of a rival to the Mercedes S-Class, people I spoke with at Lexus have been hinting that the new big Lexus will in fact target the sportier end of the segment — think Jaguar XJ and Porsche Panamera. Further proof that Mercedes ought to go ahead and write, “Can’t Touch This” on their new S-Class.

Regardless, the new LS will look to take on the S63 AMG by also using the 600-hp twin-turbo V-8 in what will be called the LS F. You can expect the LS 600hL to return (probably as the LS H), with the same Bavarian-flavored hybrid setup found in the SC H.

The base LS will get the 5.0-liter V-8. The new LS will launch in 2016 as a 2017 model.

Transforming the LS into something even sportier than the current F SPORT model would certainly fit the new look Lexus — there’s nothing wrong with boosting the performance, as long as it doesn’t affect the qualities that make the LS special (refinement, ride quality, & interior comfort springs to mind).

(The more I hear about this rumored engine lineup, the more I like it — at least three engine options for every Lexus model would be a welcome change.)

[Source: Motor Trend]

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    Сафиуллина-Мохамед Рамазанов
  • July 22, 2014
i was the first one to say this info :)
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      Pedro Roldão
    • July 22, 2014
    True ;) I read that... And great news by the way
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      RAL
    • July 22, 2014
    When in 2016? . . . early, mid, fall? . . . can't come too soon! What time of year did the current generation launch? Ten years of one model is too long! Sounds like it will be worth the wait though . . .
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      Carmaker1
    • July 22, 2014
    September and October 2006.
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      Сафиуллина-Мохамед Рамазанов
    • July 23, 2014
    as i said before it will appear at Tokyo 2015 or NAIAS 2016
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      RAL
    • July 23, 2014
    Thank you!
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      AstonMartin
    • July 25, 2014
    Yes, you did. I hope a talented member of this board can post a rendered sketch of the upcoming LS based upon the information that this upcoming vehicle will be more sleek. Google returns no credible images and apparently no independents have taken on the task.
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Come on, Jonny... haha I really hope that in terms of sportiness, the vehicle will simply be lighter yet stronger and safer. The F Sport and F models will be aggressive, but the standard model should be more luxurious than ever! That is why Lexus ever existed! The S-class does not deserve to and WILL NOT be able to enjoy such an open market.
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      Ray
    • July 23, 2014
    Sportier car means more harsh ride. If Lexus do that to regular LS, alot of LS users who fond of smoother ride will certainly migrate to S class. S class will be the only model that offers the most creature comfort in its class. Don't do that Lexus, you are killing what LS is famous for.
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      Сафиуллина-Мохамед Рамазанов
    • July 23, 2014
    before the next generation LS appears, the next generation Crown Majesta will appear guess what as what i heard it will be global so keep it as a secret and don't tell anyone until you see it with your own eyes
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      Ayberk Yılmaz
    • July 23, 2014
    I don't think Crown Majesta would be global. Toyota is having a hard time selling Avensis in Europe and the Camry ist not even on sale here (except in former USSR countries). So I don't think there is a big market for it globally.
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      Сафиуллина-Мохамед Рамазанов
    • July 23, 2014
    as what i heard it will be indeed global of course i agree with you on Avensis & Camry but maybe in USA as the classic S-Class as the original Celsior aka LS
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    Oishi
  • July 22, 2014
mmmm mmm good...so many tasty rumors coming out: LS F, RC FS, 600HP Twin Turbo engines, SC F (LF-LC).... This is exactly what I like to hear---pure performance vehicles... Lexus has such a bright future, full of possibilities and the only brand to take the deutchens head on
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    chasedrgc1223
  • July 22, 2014
These past few weeks have really hit me hard in terms of digesting these rumors. If they're going against the models they say, I think that rumor for the four door coupe LS we saw a while back should be looked at again. I never would've expected this big of news for Lexus, though still understanding this is just a rumor. All of this has got me on the edge of my seat!!
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      corradoMR2
    • July 22, 2014
    Same here. I'm actually nervous to hear the LS that drastically moving away from its roots. It is THE car that started Lexus's road to success and messing with the original formula that significantly (against a Panamera??) is risky to say the least.
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      knox_sportx
    • July 23, 2014
    Makes me a bit nervous too. But thus far most Toyota/Lexus rumors usually fall short of my imagination. I'm thinking this 'change' will be similar to what Toyota did with the Avalon (changing people's perceptions of the car). If it turns out to be closer to a Panamera, then I'll be pleasantly surprised. Not to mention, why stay locked to a formula that's becoming crowded by newcomers who do it arguably as well and for less money (or, Genesis)? I say adjust the formula...
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      chasedrgc1223
    • July 23, 2014
    I feel exactly as you do... Truth be told, Lexus obviously knows how important the LS is to their success and know that too drastic of a change could potentially lead to the drop of the LS with their loyalists. However, recent data has shown more and more LS owners are switching to the Tesla Model S, so they may be contemplating a more sports oriented model, even more than F-Sport, to meet the needs of such people, but I do not believe the standard LS 460 will be a sporty vehicle in its base configuration. What I do hope for is an LS 550 or something of that sort to compete with models with the bigger engines thus faster models.
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    Lexus Cohen
  • July 22, 2014
Hearing all these greats news is amazing, but I advise we take it all with a pinch of salt. It sounds really good and I want all these great things to be true.
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    Carmaker1
  • July 22, 2014
Wow, it seems the original source that mentioned this days ago was correct then. LS500 was a given anyway. At this rate, if Lexus is indeed targeting the XJ, then that is somewhat personal and conflicting to me. I am working on the replacement of it due in a few years and worked on the MY2015 X351 facelift.
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    BOSS
  • July 22, 2014
This car is so long overdue!!! I've seen so many new competitors out there I forgot how old this dinosaur is lol. I mean if they're gonna do something special with the next gen LS, I'll wait. But seriously you can't just say you're not worried about other cars in it's class when it's gonna be like almost a decade old by the time the new one comes out. I hope TMG will drop a nice heart on the new LS.
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    Alex
  • July 22, 2014
You seem like you know a lot and have a lot of comments on this feed. Could you help explain why everyone is so high on the new s class? What has it got that is making everyone so crazy? I mean the article saying the a class can't be touched seems far fetched. Thanks!
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    Even with the new S-class, I would prefer the LS. I'm sure many would too after driving both side-by-side and definitely after owning both at once. The S-class... has a cult following. Benz has history. Lexus has been making a lot of history since 1989, but it will be hard to win more fans, which is why I am a HUGE fan of all the new TV shows with Lexus product placement. Anyway, we all have an ideal luxury car to look forward to, and I really hope the LS will be the same, powerful, but [most importantly] luxurious sedan we have always loved. PS: I am sure that all the gadgets that the reviewers rave about... will NOT be in most of the S-class on dealer lots.
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    Thomas
  • July 23, 2014
No need for a New LS! The design of the current LS is pure perfection, not just the facelifted versien either. No need for a New LS, just update and Upgrade a few Things and it can go on for ten more years even.
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      Carmaker1
    • July 23, 2014
    It's unnecessary to be trolling with negative and/or opposing viewpoints, in order to just garner negative reactions from others. I believe a warning has already been given out for this type of behaviour already.
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      Thomas
    • July 23, 2014
    Calling the current LS "pure perfection" in a comment on a Lexus-blog is negative "trolling" in Your opinion? Thats not the most intelligent comment i've read in the Infernet, mang. Far from it!
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    Richmond Giovanni Chan
  • July 23, 2014
IS-F first Lexus in my opinion!
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    enthusiast88
  • July 23, 2014
I had a 2006 LS 430, I traded it in on a 201 LS 460 Sport. Big disappointment. I wanted an LS for luxury.This car was not as quite or smooth as I was expecting from Lexus's flagship sedan. Also lacked features I was expecting on a car at this price point. If Lexus is focusing on sportiness for the next LS I won't be interested. I want a large luxury sedan to be just that - LUXURIOUS. That's what put Lexus on the map.
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      RAL
    • July 23, 2014
    Hopefully new LS will achieve both . . .
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      emptystreets130
    • July 25, 2014
    Then why the heck did you get a LS460 Sport? There is the regular LS460 that sold alongside the Sport.
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      enthusiast88
    • July 26, 2014
    Because the Sport offered the two-tone interior, nicer wheels, Adaptive Variable Suspension that has a Comfort setting that makes it ride like the standard LS, nicer wood trim, nicer steering wheel, etc. Considering it has the same size wheels and tires and same general body, it should ride the same as the standard LS... which is not as nice as I would like it to be.
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      RAL
    • July 26, 2014
    I just looked up pictures (posted June 17, 2011)of the Sport edition you have. You're so right; the exterior trim, two-tone leather interior, and wood were exceptionally nicer looking than the standard model. Moreover, I think it's a lot better looking than the current model and interior.
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      enthusiast88
    • July 26, 2014
    Yeah, it was the sport special edition which I guess was kind of rare. It was on the showroom floor and the interior sold me. I guess I should have test drove it first. My 2006 LS 430 actually felt a little more special to me because of the sublime ride.
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    BlackDynamiteOnline
  • July 26, 2014
Lexus should offer two Lexus LS suspensions, one for the luxurious ride of a Lexus LS, and a Sport model for those who want a more youthful, aggressive drive. If Lexus goes wild, and alienates the luxury car buyer, and turns it into only a pure sports sedan, they will regret that decision. BD
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    Carolina King
  • August 5, 2014
Sounds like room for a new model. One that targets the XJ and one to target the up scaled s-class. I've seen rumors that jaguar is planning on returning the XJ to the lines of the S-Class...with the B99 concept as it's basis.
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      Carmaker1
    • August 5, 2014
    Not true about the B99, but otherwise good observation, as I am working on the X360's design at Whitley. I am not allowed to disclose any further info on it, as it is not in its final showroom wrap up yet (plus contractual legal restrictions), but defined already. W222 will have a true Jaguar contender come 2017. As for the LS, it is likely that your 2 model theory makes more sense than strictly a Panamera competitor.
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    Mateen Huzaimie
  • August 29, 2014
The new LS should be build with aluminium

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