Toyota/Lexus Midsize FR Sedan Discussion (Crown, GS) - Replaced with a CUV?

What do you think it is?

  • Lexus GS

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Toyota Crown

    Votes: 25 78.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 9.4%

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spwolf

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Production Crown spotted.

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sweet... it starts sales in 2 weeks.
 

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The production Crown will be the first 'Toyota' branded model to be built on GA-L platform. Available powertrain options are
(1).8GR-FXS 3.5L hybrid from LC and LS
(2).A25A-FXS 2.5L hybrid and
(3).8AR-FTS 2L turbo with 8speed auto.
 

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The production Crown will be the first 'Toyota' branded model to be built on GA-L platform. Available powertrain options are
(1).8GR-FXS 3.5L hybrid from LC and LS
(2).A25A-FXS 2.5L hybrid and
(3).8AR-FTS 2L turbo with 8speed auto.

do we know their outputs in Crown yet?
 

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Good. They are happy. Now lets hope Lexus use this Crown and bring the GS back!
Forget the GS.If it was brought to Oz I would buy it.Love the cup holders and it doesn't have that stupid track pad!!!
Don't like the tablet screen, never have.And I love the grill.Prefer it to the spindle.
 

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Interesting to see they are using the low output version of the A25A for the longitudinal hybrid. I wonder if the battery pack is also the same as the transverse version. This could mean the two '300h' systems have the same output (well, they are just the same system with different orientation).
 

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Interesting to see they are using the low output version of the A25A for the longitudinal hybrid. I wonder if the battery pack is also the same as the transverse version. This could mean the two '300h' systems have the same output (well, they are just the same system with different orientation).

hopefully they can do more hp via battery pack, they can still do more.
 

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hopefully they can do more hp via battery pack, they can still do more.

It's amusing that they are still using the Li-ion pack exclusively on the Camry Hybrid LE, with the reason being 'cost concerns', on the cheapest hybrid trim.

And now they just invested in a NiMH battery plant in China. Looks like those outdated technology from last century isn't going away anytime soon. Toyota is all the way up there with the U.S. military for the philosophy of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'.
 

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It's amusing that they are still using the Li-ion pack exclusively on the Camry Hybrid LE, with the reason being 'cost concerns', on the cheapest hybrid trim.

And now they just invested in a NiMH battery plant in China. Looks like those outdated technology from last century isn't going away anytime soon. Toyota is all the way up there with the U.S. military for the philosophy of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'.

indeed, i think chief engineer mentioned that now they produce lions for less than nimh :)
 

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Something that intrigues me no end is whether Toyota will continue its present "triple Crown" strategy (SWB "sporty" Athlete, SWB "luxury" Royal and LWB Majesta) or just go to a single Crown for the 15th generation. An image at around the 4:35 point of the video above implies the latter strategy (though I don't know for sure since I don't understand the Japanese explanations alongside the images), while running a couple of foreign-language articles through Google Translate suggests that there will still be Athlete and Royal versions for Crown15.

I guess we'll know in a few days...
 

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Something that intrigues me no end is whether Toyota will continue its present "triple Crown" strategy (SWB "sporty" Athlete, SWB "luxury" Royal and LWB Majesta) or just go to a single Crown for the 15th generation. An image at around the 4:35 point of the video above implies the latter strategy (though I don't know for sure since I don't understand the Japanese explanations alongside the images), while running a couple of foreign-language articles through Google suggests that there will still be Athlete and Royal versions for Crown15.

I guess we'll know in a few days...

Single crown only, unified vehicle similar to athlete since that sold the best.
 

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Also worth noting is that Crown15 echoes the engine lineup strategy of the 3rd-gen Auris in Europe: A single turbocharged gasoline engine; a smaller, economy-oriented hybrid powertrain; and a larger, performance hybrid powertrain.
 

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Also worth noting is that Crown15 echoes the engine lineup strategy of the 3rd-gen Auris in Europe: A single turbocharged gasoline engine; a smaller, economy-oriented hybrid powertrain; and a larger, performance hybrid powertrain.

i was very excited by the fact they added new performance hybrid, not old one... maybe the cost is not that crazy? Also it will be interesting to see performance stats in much lighter vehicle.
 

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Also worth noting is that Crown15 echoes the engine lineup strategy of the 3rd-gen Auris in Europe: A single turbocharged gasoline engine; a smaller, economy-oriented hybrid powertrain; and a larger, performance hybrid powertrain.

I think a recurring theme in the future will be base gas, base hybrid, power hybrid, and optional performance gas type of lineup.
 
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