Discussion in 'Lexus Lounge' started by krew, Jun 4, 2015.
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Oh really? The MyLink is a disaster, it's extremly cumbersome to use and frustrating. Why don't Toyota collaborate with Sony, or Panasonic, to solve this problem? Frankly, i love the plush ride of a Lexus, but its infotainment system, especially on the LX570, looks outdated and really complicatied. But at least, it's far better than the CUE and Jaguar Land Rover's system.
Why do car companies insist of thinking they can write better software than software companies?! Classic case in point was the BMW i3 that wasn't even using a secure channel for communication. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31093065
The quicker a car company can integrate someone's smart phone into their media system, the better. I don't think Toyota needs to team up with Ford, but with some software technology companies, like Google.
It would be a dream to use apps that are on my phone in my car's electronic system. Waze would be my GPS (no more buying expensive updated maps, lets me know Police are ahead, better traffic). Google would be my choice for search engine. No expensive upgrade to have SiriusXM in your car, when you can get the App. The idea is to have the apps YOU like to use, and not to be limited.
Maybe Lexus needs to team up with Samsung, LG, or someone, put out a smart phone or tablet, and have seamless integration. Get emails or text when maintenance is required, the key fob can be your phone, turns on bluetooth when detected inside the car, be able to adjust the thermostat at your house from inside your vehicle's system, etc.... Right now, I roll around with my Tablet sitting in front of the Lexus system, hooked up via bluetooth. The only thing that I need the Lexus system for is climate controls and maintenance items. If I had those 2 integrated in my tablet, ........ Have the speech recognition able to send text messages, if you had a HUD it could read you text messages or subjects of an email.
Then, you open up highly skilled app developers to come in and invent, create, push the limits. Just my two cents.
So Lexus wanted something more reliable by avoiding Android Auto and Apple CarPlay and going to Ford's system that ruined Ford's quality ratings... One of those absurd things that corporate Lexus does.
Although I'm a Microsoft fan, I wasn't a fan of the My Touch when I had a rental on a recent business trip. It's laggy and unresponsive at times. Not sure if the new gen will have MS bones but it better be rock solid to be Lexus (or Toyota)-worthy.
This is the biggest mistake that Toyota is making.
This was the same mistake Nokia did and they went out of the mobile phone business.
They bet on Microsoft's small and relative unknown Windows Mobile solution. Where are they now.
It is simple things like car info-system that are going to change the world.
Please Toyota already the Kia's and Hundiah's are giving u a hard time. Android and iOS devices are everywhere in the world, why make a decision to alienate yourself.
Be careful of your advices, they would lead you to doom.
Apple and Google can provide, maps, apps and a few other fancy things but when it comes down to accessing and integrating with the car, none of the two will go that deep. Most android phones/tablets are a copy of each other with minor differences. Most of the differences are cosmetic but the internal are almost the same. So should Lexus spend it's time making changes to their car to work with the software or make changes to software so that it works for the car?
Open source means that they can collaborate during R&D, understand the intricacies of the platform, which is essentially a media engine, but operate independently.
Finally, did any of you actually look into SDL?
Lexus will have to use an OS where they can use SDL on, the question is, which one!
So did Toyota HQ spend time in Ford's equipped with their infortainment system and was like "Presto! This is the system we want!" Jesus LORD! smh.... I've gotten their rental a few times this past two years and the only thing pleasurable was the USB connection to my iPhone. Horrible, laggy, dumb UI.
As always, well said by Mark Templin. The only new automaker in modern times is Tesla, and they remain a highly niche automaker, who is led by a one-in-a-billion super-genius of a CEO in Elon Musk.
News media is not reporting this properly because they dont understand the technology.
So lets clarify this:
1. Android Auto and CarPlay go on the top of existing infotainment solutions, they do not replace them. This is biggest confusion - people thinking CarPlay replaced manufacturers infotainment - for instance in Volvo XC90 - this is not the case, it is basically an APP that runs on existing XC90 infotainment that integrates it with iOS when you connect iOS device. Otherwise you would have to own Android phone or iOS phone to use your vehicle. Both Android Auto and CarPlay ONLY work if you connect their matching phone to it.
2. New Ford infotainment solution - Sync3 is now QNX based... Toyota infotainment solution is also QNX based. No more Microsoft in Ford.
3. What is being discussed is common interface in QNX for app builders to build their apps. So basically Spotify could build single app and it would work on all Toyota and all Ford vehicles. Right now they have to build separate apps for Toyota and separate apps for new Ford Sync 3. This makes it much easier for app builders which means that there will be many more apps in the future.
4. All of the above being said, it has nothing to do with Android Auto or CarPlay because they would run on the top of customized QNX infotainment system that Sync 3 and Toyota use, not replace it. Basically it would be just an app in QNX. That way billions of people who dont have latest Android 5.01 and iOS 8.x can still use apps, and those who dont have (or dont have desire to connect theirs) Android/iOS phone can continue using their cars.
You explained it much better than I did. Thank you.