Toyota Land Cruiser Megathread (300, 250, Prado, etc)

Levi

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Conclusion of the video is the engine is bad, that is what is mainly wrong with it. And Toyota wants to replace it with another smaller displacement 4 cylinder? They need a new V6 or I6.
 

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Conclusion of the video is the engine is bad, that is what is mainly wrong with it. And Toyota wants to replace it with another smaller displacement 4 cylinder? They need a new V6 or I6.

Not that I disagree with the Land Cruiser needing 6 cylinders (TRD PRO?) but I think the 2.4T is clearly not Toyota's best work, whereas they seem very proud of this new family of 4-cylinders. Time will tell.
 

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Really well done, and he makes a great point with "effortlessness" being a key part of the Land Cruiser experience. 80 Series, 100 Series, 200 Series all had that "carved out of granite, over engineered, the best quality" feeling and while none were fast, those engines were smooth as butter, sounded great, and made the entire experience feel... Land Cruiser.

I don't think the 2.4T was the best choice for the Land Cruiser... it deserves a V6. It's fine for the Tacoma and 4Runner as lower priced vehicles, but for the traditional Land Cruiser buyer, it's a major downgrade. Significantly worse NVH is maybe the worst part of all considering the legacy Land Cruiser experience.
 

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It is called Landcruiser in NA, but it is a Prado. Prado never had I6 and V8, except in the GX.
 

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If we’re lucky, the LX will become hybrid only, the GX will get the full V35 tune (maybe even the 420hp tune), and the LC250 will get the detuned V35 as an option.

If we’re really lucky, the V35 gets replaced with an I6 in 2027.
 

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If we’re lucky, the LX will become hybrid only, the GX will get the full V35 tune (maybe even the 420hp tune), and the LC250 will get the detuned V35 as an option.

If we’re really lucky, the V35 gets replaced with an I6 in 2027.
What has Lucky got to do with I6? Is it wishful thinking or is Toyota working on I6?
 

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What has Lucky got to do with I6? Is it wishful thinking or is Toyota working on I6?
It’s just wishful thinking on my part. There doesn’t really seem to be a point in having a V6 in Toyota’s lineup though, especially with nearly all transverse applications moving to 4 cylinder engines. An I6 that shares components with the 2.4T or upcoming 2.0T makes more sense from a production point of view. Just my $.02.
 

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I think it's no longer possible to build a compact size body on frame vehicle that can comply with collision regulations in developed markets. Ford Bronco Sport and Jeep Renegade/Compass are transverse engine unibody crossovers with some off road enhancements.

I think Toyota should be developing a crossover variant of the upcoming unibody Stout pickup. So for developing markets they have LC Mini-Hilux Champ, and for developed markets they have Stout-Stout Cross.
 

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That video does a pretty good job of quantifying the things that don't show up on the spec sheet. Should I decide to get back into an SUV at the end of my BEV lease, I'll either go lower trim 4Runner (OR or Sport) or yolo to a non-premium LC. I liked having a 5th gen Pro, but it was all a bit too loud versus the more subtle Land Cruiser. When I was riding in my brother's before riding the GAP, the ride quality really drove home the near Lexus feel versus just being a nice Toyota.