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To my knowledge, it's a full hybrid.The new ford has a mild hybrid system
New F150 had less changes than "new" Lexus IS. Just another example how Toyota/Lexus forum fans overdo it.
3.5v TT running at a higher compression ratio, revised interior, changes in interior and exterior, active aero grill, Improved towing capacity, electric bed outlet, over the air update, bigger screens, etc..
Its more vast than the IS in terms of update.
Actually structural changes to F150 are smaller than for IS... All engines are carry over too.
And we are talking about very profitable truck that sells 1m per per year vs car that sells 50k.
Tundra is how old now? How many times has the F150 been changed in that same time frame?
You all make a point. I would just like to say that even though the f150 has been redone 5 times (counting both all-new models and refreshed models) since 2007 I think an argument could be made for the Tundra...
Interesting comments in light of what I've been doing the past couple of days. At the request of Que Auto Compro, I've pretty much taken a deep-dive into both the "new" F-150 and on the truck's history for an article and a historical gallery with brief commentary.Are we really going down this road? The F-150 was all-new in 2015, so 6 model years later, it's getting a 50% updated exterior, a more updated interior, and updated engines and some brand new powertrains.
The IS was new in 2014, so 7 model years later, it's getting 100% new exterior sheetmetal, circular vents and a touch screen, and carryover powertrains.
You tell me who put more money into their "refresh." The F-150 is Ford's most important vehicle, and the IS is nowhere close to the top 10 list for Toyota, so I think the money invested makes sense in both cases.
P.S. the F-150 refresh is also hideous and the IS looks great
I was given advance access, under embargo, to a Spanish-language version of Ford's press release, so putting the article together wasn't too bad. It was reviewing the F-150's history that I learned quite a bit.
By Ford's official reckoning, the just-unveiled 2021 is the F-150's 14th generation, but several of those are pretty much comparable to what Lexus just did with 3IS. Ford coasted through 17 years (1980-1997) on 2 major facelifts to what was officially the truly new (including chassis) 7th-gen F-150 launched in 1980. Yet historians (and Wikipedia) consider them full-fledged 8th and 9th generations. Each of those are roughly comparable to the major facelift the current Tundra received for the 2014 model year. Other generations (such as the current 13th-to-14th transition) similar blur the lines between truly new generation and major refresh.
Then, conversely, you have the odd case of the 4th-gen F-150 that ran between 1961 and 1966. Towards the end of the run (1965MY) they slipped a new chassis and suspension under the existing sheetmetal. And then, after coming up with a new chassis for the 10th generation that ran between 1997 and 2004, they threw that out and came up with yet another new one for its 11th-gen successor.