Official Lexus Future Product & Powertrain Megathread

[Tyronne M]

LS? LX? LC? RC? IS? GX deserves the 409hp tune, as well as the V35A + hybrid, not T24A. LX 700h should be the base option with an optional V8 + hybrid. Same for LS. The upper end of the market is where I'm most worried, and GA-K with 4cyl ICE and HEV or PHEV won't cut it.

Amen!

 

[ssun30]

Best Car March 10, 2024 issue [Magazine]

"Engine Return Theory" - Morizo

Not the best translation, but talks more about Toyota not moving to full electric vehicles.

It would be more helpful to post the original Japanese text instead of machine translations.

 

[dylanfoos]

It would be more helpful to post the original Japanese text instead of machine translations.

 

[NomadDan]

So according to that, Toyota is working on a 2.2L 4 cylinder version of the G16E? Am I understanding that correctly? I kinda struggle seeing where that would be used. The MR2 makes the most sense, but aside from that, I dunno. The rumored 86 sedan and wagon? GR Camry? ES-F? RX-F? None of those seem to be a justifiable business case for a whole new engine, especially with the T24, S20, and hybrid as options.

I think if Toyota were to add cylinders to the G16, they should add three more and have a TT I6 to use in the Supra, RC+LC, IS-F, and LS.

 

[Kelvin2020]

There have been too many rumors, I can't keep up with it😮‍💨

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

So according to that, Toyota is working on a 2.2L 4 cylinder version of the G16E? Am I understanding that correctly? I kinda struggle seeing where that would be used. The MR2 makes the most sense, but aside from that, I dunno. The rumored 86 sedan and wagon? GR Camry? ES-F? RX-F? None of those seem to be a justifiable business case for a whole new engine, especially with the T24, S20, and hybrid as options.

I think if Toyota were to add cylinders to the G16, they should add three more and have a TT I6 to use in the Supra, RC+LC, IS-F, and LS.

That's what I want. 😫

 

[ssun30]

The really really crazy part of this rumor is that the 2.2L I4-T with over 400PS will be used on a model derived from the GR GT3 concept.

 

[Levi]

GR Celica GT4?

 

[NomadDan]

GR Celica GT4?

And/or a 4 cylinder Supra?

 

[ssun30]

One of the earliest BestCar rumors on the GR GT3 (right after Tokyo Auto Salon) was that the racing engine will actually be a 4-cylinder. Maybe the old 5.4L will live on for a couple of years, but the TTV8 was not supposed in the race car because it's too heavy and way oversized for GT3. The G16E-GTS already makes over 500PS with factory internals, making a 600PS+ 4-cylinder version is trivial.

Toyota's most successful racing engine in history was the 3S-GTE and 503E derived from it. 850PS from a 2.1L I4. Won almost every category it raced in. Having a really small, light, durable, easy to repair I4 is a big advantage in motorsport. A "G22-GTS" will be 2157cc which is almost identical to the 2142cc 503E.

So I think the LFR and GR GT might actually be twin models with the former being a 1000PS V8TT PHEV and the latter being a 500PS I4 ICEV but much lighter and suitable for racing.

 

[Kelvin2020]

Lexus May Launch A New Coupe To Replace Both The RC And LC | Carscoops

The new Lexus coupe could be offered with Toyota's new 3.4-liter twin-turbocharged V6 found in the Tundra and the latest GX

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[Sulu]

Toyota To Take Control Of Battery Joint Venture From Panasonic | Carscoops

Primearth EV Energy will start producing batteries for hybrids, PHEVs, and EVs

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Toyota’s joint venture battery company with Panasonic will become a wholly owned subsidiary of the Japanese automaker later this month.

The company, Primearth EV Energy Co., Ltd (PEVE), is currently 51% owned by Toyota and 49% owned by Panasonic. It mass produces batteries for hybrid electric vehicles but plans to also begin producing batteries for BEVs and PHEVs and play an important role in Toyota’s growing electrification plans.

Toyota says that “more competitive batteries will enhance the appeal of Toyota’s electric vehicle offerings and contribute to achieving carbon neutrality through a multi-pathway approach.”

Primearth EV Energy was formed as Panasonic EV Energy Co in December 1996 with Toyota holding a 40% stake and Panasonic having the remaining 60% stake. The company was renamed Primearth EV Energy in June 2010 and at the time was 80.5% owned by Toyota. It currently employs approximately 4,700 people.

The car manufacturer notes that the acquisition of PEVE will allow it to flexibly respond to growing battery demand and boost its competitiveness.

 

[internalaudit]

Yep, battery is key differentiator, in the EV landscape. Probably doesn't want JV to supply Tesla's Asian manufacturing either lol.

Probably why Honda quit the JV with GM.