Discussion in 'Lexus Lounge' started by krew, Mar 8, 2017.
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Going to be interesting... now, ready to see the damn thing!
The C-HR has been selling like crazy in Japan, so it is indeed highly likely to see the debut of the C-HR-based UX in Tokyo IMHO.
Europe too... it might be sooner than Tokyo.
I can see them offering larger engine for UX, and i hope they will... CHR is already pretty luxurious so it will be much easier transition to Lexus than NX had.
Okay once again we will have a great looking SUV more aggressive than most on the market wil we get a F version of this car...? The first F SUV would be a huge statement.
That would be great!
I'm so surprised
This is great news though not too surprised. I will be surprised if the UX doesn't make it to N. America seeing that subcompacts are gaining in sales as a genre.
I agree with krew for a Tokyo reveal but as for sale date, my guess is no sooner than late 2018 as a MY 2019 to spread the near-term launches a little:
LC May 2017 / MY 2018
LS Q1 2018 / MY 2018
UX Q4 2018 / MY 2019
At least everyone here has the same views........
Indeed, 2017 being an odd-numbered year, I'd say it's 50/50 whether UX debuts in Frankfurt (Press days: September 12 & 13, 2017) or in Tokyo (Press days: October 25 & 26, 2017)
After having seen the concept UX, I hope that the styling is toned down big time for the production version.
Can someone tell me at Toyota why the C-HR was there much earlier than the UX?
This was supposed to be the other way around, and a few years previously. The competition is huge these days.
So, don't wait too long...
The UX in Q4 2018 ? I guess a little bit earlier here in Europe, in Q2 2018, otherwise Lexus can forget. But that's not the first time....
It's a strategy that works with Toyota Motor Corp that I suspect to iron out any kinks with the platform as a Toyota model first.
Some recent examples:
'10 Prius -> '11 CT
'14 Highlander -> '16 RX
'13 Rav4 -> '15 NX
'18 CH-R -> ~'19UX
A less likely strategy IMO is it could also be to stagger product releases of "like" models even though they are not in the same price point/customer base.
Maybe you're right, but not for the RC --> GT86.
And about the CH-R, I think that must be '17 CH-R, they're already on the road here in Europe. That's why I think that the UX is for Q2 '18.
Could be Europe might get the UX earlier...
As for RC -> GT86/FT86 ? No no... Both ride on their own unique and very different platforms. Nothing shared whatsoever.
C-HR indeed launched in Europe earlier than in North America. U.S. pricing was announced just earlier this week. It hasn't even arrived at the dealers yet. And, in the U.S. (presumably also Canada) it's considered an early 2018 model year debut.
because it is more important and its markets are more about Toyota than Lexus? Toyota C-HR just jumped to #3 in Japan and it is going to be likely a #2 best selling Toyota in Europe for 2017. And this is for fairly expensive vehicle for its size. So between Europe and Japan, C-HR will likely sell between 200k and 300k units.
On the other hand, Lexus is big in USA where most of the press is asking why isnt C-HR bigger and some are even comparing it to Honda Fit, or writing how it is more expensive than a Corolla. So in USA where expectation is that size=price, premium, near-luxury Toyotas like C-HR are not a greatest fit.
For Europe, they have just proven that if Toyota builds it (near-premium vehicle), they will come. Most of European markets have Toyota up by 20%-25% for 2017, solely due to new C-HR as rest of the lineup is getting very old now.
Good to hear from you spwolf!