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Why is no one talking about this ? Facelift for next year and new engines ?
 

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Why is no one talking about this ? Facelift for next year and new engines ?
Interesting! I'm using machine translation, so add some grains of salt, but it says there will be a new turbo 4 hybrid for the low end, and a 600h on the high end with a 5-liter V8 (presumably the LC's in some detuned form) as part of a hybrid system.
 

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Interesting! I'm using machine translation, so add some grains of salt, but it says there will be a new turbo 4 hybrid for the low end, and a 600h on the high end with a 5-liter V8 (presumably the LC's in some detuned form) as part of a hybrid system.
The way I understood the Google Translation, the August 2021 (2022 model year) midlife refresh for the 5th-gen Lexus LS will not only bring a new turbo 4 hybrid for the low end but mark the return of the LS 600h with what appears to be the 5-liter 2UR-FSE V8 hybrid powertrain from the 4th-gen LS 600h and the latest (3rd-gen) Toyota Century.
 

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That's some interesting 180 degree flipping if they're bringing back the 4LS hybrid system as-is.
 

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I don't know much about engine development, but wouldn't it be possible to take the new TTV8 and de-turbo it and pair it to a hybrid system?
 

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I don't know much about engine development, but wouldn't it be possible to take the new TTV8 and de-turbo it and pair it to a hybrid system?
That seems more likely than carrying over the 2UR (I'm assuming the TTV8 is Dynamic Force) but who knows with TMC and engines?
 

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I don't know much about engine development, but wouldn't it be possible to take the new TTV8 and de-turbo it and pair it to a hybrid system?
yes. It would be basically a two of those new 2.0l engines in V config. But it would not be 600h without turbos I dont think.
 

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@Joaquin Ruhi - Morning sir so the LS will be refreshed next year? so what will be the motor choices? I might as well wait now.
A 2021 model year refresh for 5LS is highly likely, but I'm not really sure what it will consist of, much less whether the rumored new Dynamic Force V8 will come in time for the 2021 MY refresh.
 

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@Joaquin Ruhi yeah that’s what the group had been discussing. I don’t think it will get a v8... the F model yes but regular model no. The 5.0 liter is going out so why put it in the LS. I see performance gains on the 3.5 TTV6. I’m going to check out the hybrid also.
 

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@Joaquin Ruhi , considering Geneva (the biggest European Auto Show and a very important one worldwide) is just around the corner and I'm pretty sure we won't get anything new to show... Even a new set of wheels would improve current trend...
 

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@Joaquin Ruhi , considering Geneva (the biggest European Auto Show and a very important one worldwide) is just around the corner and I'm pretty sure we won't get anything new to show... Even a new set of wheels would improve current trend...
2020 LS had a host of updates already.
 

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Yup minor refresh fir LS In the USA market for fall 2020 . Highway teammate driving system , in other news look for a new IS at NY auto show possibly
 
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